New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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I was hoping to get some response from this post before i make my fourth wick..
Should I make a thicker roll of mesh? Should I make a thinner roll of mesh? Should I make a loose roll of mesh, or a tighter roll of mesh?
I don't have a problem with shorting anymore. I just want a wick that actually wicks without having to turn it upside down, making it seem like I am drinking from it, when vaping.

Torch wick before rolling, roll tight... if you chain vape...you'll always be tipping it a bit. As your rolling... give it a little pull on each end to stretch it out a tad.

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I was hoping to get some response from this post before i make my fourth wick..
Should I make a thicker roll of mesh? Should I make a thinner roll of mesh? Should I make a loose roll of mesh, or a tighter roll of mesh?
I don't have a problem with shorting anymore. I just want a wick that actually wicks without having to turn it upside down, making it seem like I am drinking from it, when vaping.

Still having issues? The wick size seems fine..
I find that an un- strawlike wick is working better for me now.. ALso, they seem to wick better after a few hours but then you would be past that by now... I remember you posting before and there were a few suggestions I thought. I'm surprised none of them worked... You are cutting at an angle on the bottom right? WIck not touching the bottom of the tank? Those are the main suggestions I have... It may be the type of mesh too. I use juices about the same viscosity with 325 mesh and my wicking is pretty good. You are not pinching the top of the wick as people have suggested, are you? Try it without the fill screw ? (Though I still use mine with the screw and its fine). Thats about all I got.
 

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I would use a length of mesh 3 x 10cm. Roll without a center hole. You can quench and juice up the wick as you have been. The thicker denser wick holds more juice.
I was hoping to get some response from this post before i make my fourth wick..
Should I make a thicker roll of mesh? Should I make a thinner roll of mesh? Should I make a loose roll of mesh, or a tighter roll of mesh?
I don't have a problem with shorting anymore. I just want a wick that actually wicks without having to turn it upside down, making it seem like I am drinking from it, when vaping.
 

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I would use a length of mesh 3 x 10cm. Roll without a center hole. You can quench and juice up the wick as you have been. The thicker denser wick holds more juice.

You're talking 10cm wide and no center hole meaning its all basically mesh?? that must be really tough to compress but I can see it wicking really well.... I have a hard enough time doing even 5cm...
 

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Oh I remember those days. Gently pick at the coil. But absolutely. Today? No funny business. Everyone gets there.
I remember a time when I was oh so gentle with my coils and wick. Not any more! I now PUSH that wick away from the screw or post good and firm, I scoot that coil like I mean it. All is good. Usually it's the coil after the not so bright coil that is being the culprit, sometimes it's the dull coil itself. I give them all the riot act lol.

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Whoever comes up with glass did, mini did tank gonna make some money. Does anyone own the kir fanis mini clear tank, I'll have to get one of those for the time being. Btw, I am just loving the precise 18350 for the mini. My first mechanical. It hits harder than I thought it would. Running the mini at 1.9 ohm and getting plenty of good th and vape. Happy Happy and spoiled with current set-up. Now I have to decide, another mechanical or provari for big DID, my lava-tube is starting to act up.
 

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Another mechanical! Go for a Caravela, GGTS w/ stealth cap, GGTB (great fit with the standard DID), or a flat top P+18 :D
Whoever comes up with glass did, mini did tank gonna make some money. Does anyone own the kir fanis mini clear tank, I'll have to get one of those for the time being. Btw, I am just loving the precise 18350 for the mini. My first mechanical. It hits harder than I thought it would. Running the mini at 1.9 ohm and getting plenty of good th and vape. Happy Happy and spoiled with current set-up. Now I have to decide, another mechanical or provari for big DID, my lava-tube is starting to act up.
 

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Still having issues? The wick size seems fine..
I find that an un- strawlike wick is working better for me now.. ALso, they seem to wick better after a few hours but then you would be past that by now... I remember you posting before and there were a few suggestions I thought. I'm surprised none of them worked... You are cutting at an angle on the bottom right? WIck not touching the bottom of the tank? Those are the main suggestions I have... It may be the type of mesh too. I use juices about the same viscosity with 325 mesh and my wicking is pretty good. You are not pinching the top of the wick as people have suggested, are you? Try it without the fill screw ? (Though I still use mine with the screw and its fine). Thats about all I got.

That was my thought also, trying to loosen the center of the mesh while keeping the outer side still tight to the hole. I was considering cutting this wick at 5 cm, instead of the 3.5 cm length, or should I keep the same length?

I tried loosening up my last wick, but after I recoiled it -- it had shorts (which it didn't have before). I guess that if you mess with the wick, you need to re-torch it again, Is this right?

The last wick was with the 325, and I DIDn't cut bottom at an angle. I will next time.
 

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Another mechanical! Go for a Caravela, GGTS w/ stealth cap, GGTB (great fit with the standard DID), or a flat top P+18 :D

Is it a long long wait for a Caravela? They sure are handsome mods. If its a forever wait, I might go for a flat top p+18500 or 18650, I am definitely leaning towards mechanical as you suggest.
 

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Turnforward, thankfully you're receiving great brainstorming tips from the posters here. Most of us are kind of in the dark over this issue, because most of us have absolutely zero wicking problems with the DID. That's the main reason it's so well loved! Every once in awhile you'll hear of someone who leaves their screw out for better wicking, but it's not an everyone kind of thing. Hang in there while we rack our brains for the tips we've heard along the way from other genesis forums, and of course, in this forum as well.
If I remember right, the main culprit to a non-wicking DID, is that there is a coil (or all) that is too tightly wound around the wick. But, I have chronic CRS, so take this with a grain of salt k. Hang in there, and good luck!! If the tips so far haven't worked, someone will pop up with something that will. This thread is a w e s o m e!!

Oh! I just remembered another tip. Make sure that your airhole is lined up with your wick and make sure that the airhole is facing down towards the ground whenever you vape. (or in my case, a little to the side or it floods). This will give you more flavor too, because the wick is wetter with flavorful juice. :)
 
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Jim I placed my order today for the ss upgrade kit please don't forget to add the center tube and top and bottom white plastic caps so that I can repair my original did....you told me to remind you!! I also sent you an email and left a message on the payment comment box......thank you and hope to hear from you soon......regards Joseph

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Whoever comes up with glass did, mini did tank gonna make some money. Does anyone own the kir fanis mini clear tank, I'll have to get one of those for the time being. Btw, I am just loving the precise 18350 for the mini. My first mechanical. It hits harder than I thought it would. Running the mini at 1.9 ohm and getting plenty of good th and vape. Happy Happy and spoiled with current set-up. Now I have to decide, another mechanical or provari for big DID, my lava-tube is starting to act up.

Definitely mechanical. I'm down to one provari. I have one DID sitting on a ggts. Another on paps. If you ever have a need to vary that, you have an option of keeping a kick on hand. But mechanical for sure.
 

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Nico - Your problem is not with the DID. It is with ALL genesis style attys. I'm kinda surprised you bought one.
The draw on the DID is actually MUCH tighter then my other genesis (Zen-atty) - the airy draw is a well known attribute of the genesis style. Fiddling and the learning curve to these things is also well known. With practice, the time spent fiddling drops exponentially.
Genesis style is not for everybody.
There's nothing wrong with not wanting to put the time and effort into making it work correctly. Try using something other then SS mesh. Cotton, silica or bamboo yarn (as well as your ceramic) should work ok, or just sell it and stick to non-genesis gear. There are plenty of good regular attys out there.

But it is true that the problems you are having are not intrinsic to your DID - they are from your wick and coil.

I totally agree with you. I got suckered in on those rave reviews. I wish they also mentioned the negatives ala P Brusardo. I am aware of the fact that this problem is not unique to just the DID. The wire mesh is the culprit. You can not depend on surface oxidations alone as an electrical insulation. It is like walking on a thin ice. By the way, I measured the air inlet on my DID. I am glad kept my miniature precision drill bit set that I used to use in calibrating Weber racing carbs when I was in that field for 5 years. Mine, the drill bit that fits the hole snugly measures at 3/64" (0.0430") or 1.11 mm. Perhaps mine is a dud. Also this maybe the improved model because it is using the new stainless steel center rod and nuts.
 

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I have PYREX glass tanks for the DID. check page 786 for reference

Where did you get Pyrex tanks for the did? Many of us have asked this since you posted your first picture of it and i haven't seen you answer yet. If you'd rather not post the source in Jim's thread then please PM me.

Referencing page 786 doesn't help most of us as many have changed the default view posts per page to 40. This thread is at pg 199 for me.
 
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