It's a sensitive subject...ease back a bit please.
Don't make comments personal.
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Don't make comments personal.
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New Genesis type atomizer by DID!
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Do not forget that the idea of genesis belongs to Van! ( I hope I'm not wrong )
But selling it under the exact name is wrong - we all agree with that ! Who tried this atomizer will not buy a replica!
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Copying a design or part of it probably cannot be avoided, I'm afraid. 
But...selling it under the exact name?
You can alway say: 'based on', 'inspired on' or whatever you want to name it...
It's also possible to contact the original designer to get his consent.
It's even possible to come to an agreement to pay him a rightfull fee for using the design.
But litterally use the name, which in this case is based on Jims own name, is for me a bridge to far.
Being an artist myself I can relate to this, been there...
And believe me, when this happens, it doesn't feel like a compliment, it's not about money, it simply hurts...
But...selling it under the exact name?
You can alway say: 'based on', 'inspired on' or whatever you want to name it...
It's also possible to contact the original designer to get his consent.
It's even possible to come to an agreement to pay him a rightfull fee for using the design.
But litterally use the name, which in this case is based on Jims own name, is for me a bridge to far.
Being an artist myself I can relate to this, been there...
And believe me, when this happens, it doesn't feel like a compliment, it's not about money, it simply hurts...
This is for everyone to have the proper information. The whys and wherefores are in that thread and other discussion. His Name Is RAIDY folks
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/132663-all-my-mods-part1.html
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o.k. , next days i make some detailed descriptions and pcitures of the Dreampipe and then Big-Cigar.
First i have to look for an good picture hoster. The minimal pictures in this forum make no sense.
The atty has two versions. My first version is free and i described in in the german forum. Everybody can build ist, if it is for non commercial use!
The second version (WOW, forgett all atty's you ever have seen) is under patent. It needs about 3 month, before i can public details, sorry.
The microprosessor solution is for free but "no commercial use". Its a attiny25 which controls:
accus voltage, steam, fingersensors, max. steam time, and temperature.
You will see details here in the next days.
I hope, my english is good enough, so that you can understand the most
Copying a design or part of it probably cannot be avoided, I'm afraid.
But...selling it under the exact name?
You can alway say: 'based on', 'inspired on' or whatever you want to name it...
It's also possible to contact the original designer to get his consent.
It's even possible to come to an agreement to pay him a rightfull fee for using the design.
But litterally use the name, which in this case is based on Jims own name, is for me a bridge to far.
Being an artist myself I can relate to this, been there...
And believe me, when this happens, it doesn't feel like a compliment, it's not about money, it simply hurts...
Right on Brig
All I can say is - I see two distinct groups of people on this thread. Those who defend Jim and the outright theft of his name - The DID and the copying of his design. The other group defends the thief and copier making excuses for him and reasons for people to buy it.
A thief is a thief. If you steal 10 cents - 10 million or a name - your still a thief. Giving money to said thief is ---------------
It would be nice if Jim is paying Raidy(original genesis) and Quick(first screw-down connector posts)some royalities for their ideas,but I doubt it.
Does anyone have a link to the co=op?
Does anyone have a link to the co=op?
No its real close but my friend has a darwin and tested that with my mini. I told him to shave off sone of the Darwins case lol. I think he decided to sell the darwin to get a tube mod so his shorty doesn't look so silly too.
Right on Brig
All I can say is - I see two distinct groups of people on this thread. Those who defend Jim and the outright theft of his name - The DID and the copying of his design. The other group defends the thief and copier making excuses for him and reasons for people to buy it.
A thief is a thief. If you steal 10 cents - 10 million or a name - your still a thief. Giving money to said thief is ---------------
So so true, I looked at the coop thread yesterday thinking it was Jims mini DID only to be let down when I saw what it realy was.
A thief is a thief. If you steal 10 cents - 10 million or a name - your still a thief. Giving money to said thief is ---A thief guilty by association!
You know after seeing all this about the copy’s, I will now show my 100% support and go order another DID from Jim, don’t really need it, but like Dspin I have a job and morals. I appreciate the work Jim does for us and will never by a knock off.
What the stuff???
I come to this thread daily to read tips and tricks and people's experiences as well as to check out the cool photos now and again... Not some drama about knock offs. Maybe that discussion is best served elsewhere like in a new thread?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see this thread get back to the good stuff.
I come to this thread daily to read tips and tricks and people's experiences as well as to check out the cool photos now and again... Not some drama about knock offs. Maybe that discussion is best served elsewhere like in a new thread?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see this thread get back to the good stuff.
This is sad, and it saddens me even more that we have resorted to name calling and labels. I hope Dan returns, and that nobody else leaves.
As far as I know, the one on the co-op is called a genesis DID COPY, not an original.
As far as I know, the one on the co-op is called a genesis DID COPY, not an original.
Its totally wrong for them to copy the name and the design.
Im in an interesting situation myself. I got an email announcement from Stormy's Vapor Cellar that they had their own new RA Genesis Tank called the SVC Storm. I saw the price and saw what it looked like and said heck, that looks like it would be nice for my pipes. So I bought it right that moment.
Then I started seeing Mini DID's in the picture thread. At the time I thought the DID was more the size of the z-atty and the other fat tanks that fit nice on large tube mods. Im almost exclusive a pipe vapor so I tend to look for long skinny ones like the line. Well after I saw the mini DID I figured out what Stormy was doing.
I might build it once and then give it to a friend or toss it in the rubbish. At least they didnt blatantly rip off the name but still.
Im in an interesting situation myself. I got an email announcement from Stormy's Vapor Cellar that they had their own new RA Genesis Tank called the SVC Storm. I saw the price and saw what it looked like and said heck, that looks like it would be nice for my pipes. So I bought it right that moment.
Then I started seeing Mini DID's in the picture thread. At the time I thought the DID was more the size of the z-atty and the other fat tanks that fit nice on large tube mods. Im almost exclusive a pipe vapor so I tend to look for long skinny ones like the line. Well after I saw the mini DID I figured out what Stormy was doing.
I might build it once and then give it to a friend or toss it in the rubbish. At least they didnt blatantly rip off the name but still.
Ok...it is time this stopped.
Intentions are good, but this has gotten out of hand.
This is a sales thread...Jim's store here if you will.
If Jim wants to bring up the topic and discuss it with you when he is here he of course can. In the mean time, this stops.
Back to helping people please.
Intentions are good, but this has gotten out of hand.
This is a sales thread...Jim's store here if you will.
If Jim wants to bring up the topic and discuss it with you when he is here he of course can. In the mean time, this stops.
Back to helping people please.
If I may: I, like many here, enjoy, promote, and continually recommend the DID, and Jim's associated products, to my friends and fellow vapors. I try and do this with enthusiasm and kindness. Kindness is the key word. While I'm not thrilled about the problems encountered by patent violations, illegal downloading, war, or the myriad of problems facing us all, why create disharmony over something we have no control over. China will do as it wishes, people seeking bargains will do as they wish, all I can do is serve my own conscious best I can. I certainly am not the judge of my peers, nor do I wish to be. The one thing I can do is try and make this thread a fun, intellectual, happy learning environment. I will do my best to aid the learning process without intimidating, or injecting negativity. In return I learn and advance in this hobby I have grown to love.
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Ya know, not sure but kanthal 30, may be a bit more stable than kanthal 32. I used kanthal 30 for the first time last night. Normally, On a new coil, I have to mess around a bit with hot spots, and adjustments for the short term. Either I am getting really good at coil making, or my wick is so well seasoned it has eliminated shorting, or kanthal 30 is a tad more stable. Not sure, but I have not had to mess with this coil at all. Very stable right away!
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Can anyone tell me the thread type/size of the positive post in the DID atomizer?
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