New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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braveheart

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I started to hate Provari, I like 1.1-0.9ohm . Too many protections...
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is it with all Genesis or just the DID?
do you think guys if I order the stainless steel nuts and centre pole from jim this will reduce the error messages in provari?
 

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is it with all Genesis or just the DID? do you think guys if I order the stainless steel nuts and centre pole from jim this will reduce the error messages in provari?
No. Depends on the the wick, oxidation, wraps.. Provari will help you make a good wick . If not E1, E2, E8 will become your enemy :)
 
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is it with all Genesis or just the DID?
do you think guys if I order the stainless steel nuts and centre pole from jim this will reduce the error messages in provari?

I don't think it's the DID.

Although I use my mini DID on my epipe, I can run my mini DID on my Provari V2 and haven't come up with an E1 or any Provari error messages (yet).

And this is running with the wire and 325 mesh that the mini DID came with (1.3ohms on a 3/2 wrap and at 1.7ohms on a 4/3 wrap).

The E1 sounds like you may have a short somewhere so you may want to make sure your wick is oxidized and/or check your coiling (coils aren't touching anything but the wick and that it's snugly secured to the center pole with the two nuts).

For an E1 error, you may want to try lowering your voltage settings to the lowest setting and work up from there. From the Provari Manual:

E1 – Short Circuit / Shorted Atomizer – If this error appears, remove the atomizer and replace with a different one
or lower your voltage settings. The ProVari will automatically reset when the problem is fixed.


In regards to SS making a difference, I can't answer that since the mini DID came all SS. But I can answer that if a wick is poorly oxidized and/or the coiling is off, SS or brass won't make a difference.
 
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For those who use a Provari, what is the advantage to using a 1.0Ω coil over a 2.0Ω coil.? If the Provari has a 3.5 amp limit, you could use a 2.0Ω coil at 5.3 volts and vape with 14 watts. I use 14 watts because someone said that is a limit on the Provari. I haven't actually read that anywhere, i just assume it to be true. My point is, unless you want to vape higher than 14 watts, I see no reason to be wrapping such low resistance coils. So if you wrap a 1.0Ω coil and vape at 3.7 volts or less, you are below 14 watts so why trip the amp limit on the Provari? Now if you vape at over 14 watts, I totally understand, but if not, you are gaining nothing (except headaches) by going ultra low res.
Of course I could be wrong so if I am, please explain.
Thanks.
For me, there are a couple reasons. I don't go as low res as some folks, but 1.5ohm-1.7ohm is spot on for me. The lower res coils seem to fire up quicker, I can get a warmer vape and they work equally well on my VV devices as they do on my 3.7v fixed voltage batts. 1.5ohm@3.7v is 9.1 watts which is my sweet spot. Even if I was only using VV (my Provari, Gripper, etc...) I'd still target this range as the flavor seems stronger to me than when I was targeting HV wraps (I did some 2.9ohm to 3.2ohm and didn't feel like I got the same performance). Of course everyone's tastes are different, YMMV.

This is a good question, could the ultra lo-res people explain the benefit of using ultra low-res with vv mods, or using ultra low res at all?
Not sure I'd ever target "ultra-low-res" on a VV (e.g. 0.6ohm to 0.8ohm) because the switches wouldn't handle the higher amperage current very well. Folks who are target the 15-20 watt vaping are doing it on fixed battery mech mods with really high discharge batteries (e.g. 30A MNKE's). IMHO, they must have steel throats/lungs, cause I tried it and literally couldn't take it...
 
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is it with all Genesis or just the DID?
do you think guys if I order the stainless steel nuts and centre pole from jim this will reduce the error messages in provari?

The SS hardware is way easier for me to use (no tools required), but if you're getting E1/E2 you're either wrapping too low a resistance (add coils) or most likely not getting your wick fully oxidized (#1 culprit for E1 for me). I do find 30awg wire is less troublesome, so I'm digging a 4/5 wrap (on a fat wick) to get to my comfort zone (1.5ohm to 1.7ohm). Not sure this is true for everyone, but I also seem to have less short/hot spot problems with higher grained mesh (400 or 500).
 

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For those who use a Provari, what is the advantage to using a 1.0Ω coil over a 2.0Ω coil.? If the Provari has a 3.5 amp limit, you could use a 2.0Ω coil at 5.3 volts and vape with 14 watts. I use 14 watts because someone said that is a limit on the Provari. I haven't actually read that anywhere, i just assume it to be true. My point is, unless you want to vape higher than 14 watts, I see no reason to be wrapping such low resistance coils. So if you wrap a 1.0Ω coil and vape at 3.7 volts or less, you are below 14 watts so why trip the amp limit on the Provari? Now if you vape at over 14 watts, I totally understand, but if not, you are gaining nothing (except headaches) by going ultra low res.
Of course I could be wrong so if I am, please explain.
Thanks.

You don't need very low resistance with VV devices as you can dial in a higher voltage to get more watts at coil. LR atomisers and wire for rebuildables are for fixed voltage units/mechanical mods (3.7v) so by lowering the resistance of the coil more current (A) would flow producing more watts/heat

6.0 volts divided by 1.8 ohms = 3.33 amps (below Provaria 3.5A max)
6.0 volts divided by 1.7 ohms = 3.53 amps ( Provaria error code )

6.0 volts x 3.33 amps = 19.8 watts

So voltage set at 6v and using a 1.8 ohm coil you could produce nearly 20 watts of heat through the juice but stil be within the 3.5A limit

I cannot see any point when you own a VV device of trying to get the lowest resistance possible, just measure and use what coil you have wrapped and then adjust the voltage to get the wattage that you personally like for that type of juice
I find tobaco likes a higher temperature than fruits and have to swap to a lower resistance coil when I change juice type because I run a fixed voltage (3.7v) mod and at these times I wish I had a VV. Maybe when the VMax Z gets here as it has variable watts and that would remove all the need for these calculations !!
 

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Hi
this move with the top caps of the DID with serials numbers and 50% off is going to happen this week maybe until next weekend!
You have to know that is a very dificult process
So give me some more days to set it up
Thank you!

Thanks for the headsup on the estimated time, Jim. I need more time to save enuff for one so I'm in no hurry. Will there be an ending time for these or will we be able to swagger in whenever we can?

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I started to hate Provari, I like 1.1-0.9ohm . Too many protections...
Folks who are target the 15-20 watt vaping are doing it on fixed battery mech mods with really high discharge batteries (e.g. 30A MNKE's). IMHO, they must have steel throats/lungs, cause I tried it and literally couldn't take it...
I forgot to mention that I use 3mg nicotine per ml.
 

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Hi
this move with the top caps of the DID with serials numbers and 50% off is going to happen this week maybe until next weekend!
You have to know that is a very dificult process
So give me some more days to set it up
Thank you!

That will be cool Jim, no rushing from me...whenever you get them made is fine, as I don't have any cash for new trinkets until the end of the month anyway...lol.
I noticed that you said something about next weekend...would that be for the discount or you expect the stock you are in the process of making will only be available until next weekend ?
 

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No. Depends on the the wick, oxidation, wraps.. Provari will help you make a good wick . If not E1, E2, E8 will become your enemy :)

Do you know that you are the only person who solved my problem?
I tried everything to make my DID work with provari and I toke many advices but nothing worked
Oxidation was the answer key, I toke the old wick out and oxidized it again like 5 times and it worked with first set with no issues and no error messages.

problem solved, thanks
 
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harmudge

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Do you know that you are the only person who solved my problem?
I tried everything to make my DID work with provari and I toke many advices but nothing worked
Oxidation was the answer key, I toke the old wick out and oxidized it again like 5 times and it worked with first set with no issues and no error messages.

problem solved, thanks

I thought that we were all aware that the wick needs to be well oxidized...especially for a Provari...if I had known earlier that was your problem I would have posted that up for you braveheart.
My wick is that well oxidized I can even have it touching the bottom of my tank with no problems.

Braveheart are you Scottish ?
 

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I thought that we were all aware that the wick needs to be well oxidized...especially for a Provari...if I had known earlier that was your problem I would have posted that up for you braveheart.
My wick is that well oxidized I can even have it touching the bottom of my tank with no problems.

Braveheart are you Scottish ?

why do you think that I'm Scottish?
I'm not :) I'm from Qatar but live in US temporary
 

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It's your handle "Braveheart"...he was a very famous Scottish hero as you may well know if you have ever saw the film.
It's just that I'm Scottish so I was curious wether or not you were Scottish.

I always use "breaveheart" since I saw that movie when I was a kid
 

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Do you know that you are the only person who solved my problem?
I tried everything to make my DID work with provari and I toke many advices but nothing worked
Oxidation was the answer key, I toke the old wick out and oxidized it again like 5 times and it worked with first set with no issues and no error messages.

problem solved, thanks

Agree. I always see people complain about hot spots/shorts. I try to give them the same simple advice. But no that have to listen to the fancy answers.

Burn the crap out of the wick. You can even do it with a lighter. :) put juice on it burn it some more. If it looks like it's old and black. Ready for use. :).


Tony
 

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Hi
this move with the top caps of the DID with serials numbers and 50% off is going to happen this week maybe until next weekend!
You have to know that is a very dificult process
So give me some more days to set it up
Thank you!


good to know,,for me a serial number will set the DID apart from all the other knock-offs showing up..thanks
 
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