New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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kdragn

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anyone got any advise for a Poldiac newb who keeps melting his bottom cap spring. The button is not sticking, but I keep needing to adjust the terminal that touches the bottom of the atomizer to get it to fire. When I do, the spring melts or collapses. Now I am out of springs and need to order new ones. How can I keep this from happening?

Use a plastic screwdriver or disconnect the battery first, dude. If you're using a metal screwdriver and aren't being careful then you're going to bridge the positive terminal screw to the walls of the threaded socket which will cause a short and collapse the spring. I use a metal screwdriver, but I'm careful not to hit the walls of the 510 connection or I unscrew the bottom cap.
 

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Screwing the adjustable positive post with a metal screwdriver will not cause a short unless you're pushing the firing button at the same time which I'm quite sure you're not doing. The spring collapses only if you have a dead short. What atty are you using? Did you check the resistance of the coil? Does the atty work on a different device?
Fit the atty to the top cap while it's off the device. You should have a small gap (less than 1/8"). this way, until you get comfortable with it, you will be sure to have good contact. Frankly it sounds to me like when the pin hits your atty it's causing a short. If you're using something like a Chinese clone atty, they are so poorly made that sometimes the insulator does not do a good job of keeping the positive post of the atty from contacting the 510 fitting. I'm 99.9% sure the short is in the atty. Please lets us know what type it is, and if possible, take a close up pic of the 510 connector. Another thing is that if you get juice leaking down the inside the atty post, you will get a short as well.
 

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I need help please guys , I just bought a Temon set 14500 in the classies and there is something really wrong , there is hardly any power getting to the atomizer and the switch fires really inconsistently. Any advice and help would be welcome because right now I am very unhappy with my purchase:( Thanks in advance.
 

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Other than the normal cleaning type stuff (threads especially) I'd look at the spring in the top cap. I've actually doubled mine to make better contact and get rid of battery rattle. One trick for getting good contact on the atty is to take off the top cap, screw on the atty flush and then tighten the contact from underneath - then screw back on the body.

I also do maintenance on the inside of the switch (occasionally) but be ware the little crescent moon shaped clip is a complete pain in the "A" to remove and put back in. There's a RWeschler vid (Temon by DID Mechanical Mod/Genesis Atomizer Review - YouTube) that shows a complete break down.
 

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I had a spare so used a 15ga blunt tip needle and kind of twisted one a little tighter and then threaded it right into the one already installed in the top cap. Not surprisingly, I've found springs are always a weak link in the circuit of any mod. If there's a way to get a bigger one or twist 2 together I always do.

Haven't needed to because I had a spare, but in a pinch I bet a brass spring out of a ballpoint pen could be cut down a bit and twisted in.
 

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I am currently using a Phoenix RBA at 2 ohms. Is there an ohm limit or max i should be aware of or should I just use a DID and be done with it?. I have an AGT-2 and an AGI RBA, a Phoenix and numerous carto tanks.
Screwing the adjustable positive post with a metal screwdriver will not cause a short unless you're pushing the firing button at the same time which I'm quite sure you're not doing. The spring collapses only if you have a dead short. What atty are you using? Did you check the resistance of the coil? Does the atty work on a different device?
Fit the atty to the top cap while it's off the device. You should have a small gap (less than 1/8"). this way, until you get comfortable with it, you will be sure to have good contact. Frankly it sounds to me like when the pin hits your atty it's causing a short. If you're using something like a Chinese clone atty, they are so poorly made that sometimes the insulator does not do a good job of keeping the positive post of the atty from contacting the 510 fitting. I'm 99.9% sure the short is in the atty. Please lets us know what type it is, and if possible, take a close up pic of the 510 connector. Another thing is that if you get juice leaking down the inside the atty post, you will get a short as well.
 

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Yeah I just got 3 brand new aw IMR 14500 today, I just don't get it, really bummed.

What a bummer. Sorry to hear it's giving you the business....

I'm running a D16 2/3 wrap of 0.6 ribbon right now and it really hits great. I have both the 650 and 500 tubes, SS and Brass ends. I guess I always use my Brass ends (I like the way they look better) but tried the SS tonight playing with springs. I noticed the SS hitting a bit softer than the brass. One thing that may make a difference for me is that I clean my brass ends at least every couple weeks but have never cleaned the SS. Tomorrow I'll test both with a meter and then clean the SS to see if there is 1) significant diff between brass/SS 2) which part of cleaning makes the most difference.
 

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I had a spare so used a 15ga blunt tip needle and kind of twisted one a little tighter and then threaded it right into the one already installed in the top cap. Not surprisingly, I've found springs are always a weak link in the circuit of any mod. If there's a way to get a bigger one or twist 2 together I always do.

Haven't needed to because I had a spare, but in a pinch I bet a brass spring out of a ballpoint pen could be cut down a bit and twisted in.

I hate springs.


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What a bummer. Sorry to hear it's giving you the business....

I'm running a D16 2/3 wrap of 0.6 ribbon right now and it really hits great. I have both the 650 and 500 tubes, SS and Brass ends. I guess I always use my Brass ends (I like the way they look better) but tried the SS tonight playing with springs. I noticed the SS hitting a bit softer than the brass. One thing that may make a difference for me is that I clean my brass ends at least every couple weeks but have never cleaned the SS. Tomorrow I'll test both with a meter and then clean the SS to see if there is 1) significant diff between brass/SS 2) which part of cleaning makes the most difference.

Thanks CW I am getting a voltage drop of 0.7-0.8 I have the stainless steel button.Do you think the spring in the switch could be a problem?I am thinking of getting a copper hot spring and making one fit to see if that helps.

You might try swapping things up to see what the problem is. Put the Genny on a different mod and see what happens. Then try a different genny or a dripping carto on the body and see if it fires ok.

Thanks bud, yep tried that , D16 is fine on my PAPS , Temon holder fires all my atties very weakly. I ultrasonic cleaned everything last nigh, changed out the springs put noalox on the threads and still getting massive voltage drop on brand new AW IMR.

I hate springs.


Tony

I agree Tony , springs suck, I am hoping Jim has plans to upgrade the spring system to the 510 and replace it with Brass Telescopic screws like the new PAPS and other mods, its a very solid brass connection and you can still adjust to fit batteries with no rattle.
 

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I am currently using a Phoenix RBA at 2 ohms. Is there an ohm limit or max i should be aware of or should I just use a DID and be done with it?. I have an AGT-2 and an AGI RBA, a Phoenix and numerous carto tanks.
No ohm limit but use good high drain batts like AW. You must have a dead short being created to fry the spring though. I had an Aga but threw it away when I saw that they used silicone insulators that compressed out of shape. I hate to sound like a clone hater but you might consider buying a quality atty and enjoy it for life. DID's are pretty much bullet proof!
 

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that is what i thought... I am waiting to get a DID when I get paid again. Thanks for all the help. BTW should I stick with the MMVapor springs or try a beefed up SilverBullet Hot Spring?

I don't think if there is any reason for not trying a beefed up spring. With a DID of course !
 
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Hey all,
How is everyone?
A very late grats to Jim on his 1 year for the DID. That also means I have been off the stinkies for a year :D
I want to change my name from Spanked to "that lazy ... who has the #32 Polidac but still hasn't updated his sig".
And if you think that is lazy I have never cleaned any of my DID family. I promise I will when something stops working.
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