New member unhappy with v2 cigs.. looking for a new one to try!
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Juice prices range, but I'm sure anyone will tell you that dripping is cheaper than prefilled cartos. If your set on having a 2 piece cig lookalike design there are many far cheaper options than the ones you mention. I ordered a kit from heavens-gifts.com just to try out for around $30 bucks shipped. I can't say how good it is because it takes a while to ship from overseas, but it's made by Kanger(The same battery that most 808 suppliers sell, they just add their own logo). You can find good deals on them from US vendors as well though. Vapor4Life carries a lot of the flavored prefilled cartos.
You have a KR808D-1
Do not buy Greensmoke - incompatible but other than that, the same as what you have (you have KR808D-1, and Greensmoke is the unpopular KR808D-2)
Do not buy White Cloud - it is the same as V2 (or may be the KR808D-2) but with the prices jacked up another 300%
If you like the style buy MANUAL batteries so they keep working like they should - see Vapor4Life.com (manuals have standard size buttons and a mostly sealed threaded end) or SmokelessImage Volt (rubberized, manuals have a tiny partially recessed button and a totally sealed threaded end) and keep your cartomizers damp with eliquid so they work well. Manuals make it easier to get a good hit, harder to damage or kill the battery with liquid leaks.
Use prefills or use any of hundred of juices from dozens of juice vendors in blanks. The only caveat - I recommend thin juices (20% or less VG) and avoid juices that drop a lot of flavoring sediment because that clogs the carto. I can get a week of use or more out of one Vapor4Life WOW carto on my Vapor4Life and Smokeless Image manual batteries.
And if that is not enough for you then there is nowhere else slim to go. KR808D-1 is the highest voltage slim e-cig at a full 3.7v. With the hotter cartomizers like Vapor4Life WOW cartos and SmokelessImage cartos, they have the most hit you are going to get out of nicotine on a slim ecig. The flavor is fine (you have to smell the vapor and keep the cartos damp because if you do not, you will singe the carto and ruin its flavor)
So it that's not enough then you go fat battery or mod because these can use LR (low resistance) cartomizers and atomizers that provide a hotter hit (and use battery charge faster). Most (possibly all) LR cartomizers are blanks you will fill yourself. Most of these devices are 510 threaded so few decent prefilled cartomizers are around even in standard resistance.
Do not buy Greensmoke - incompatible but other than that, the same as what you have (you have KR808D-1, and Greensmoke is the unpopular KR808D-2)
Do not buy White Cloud - it is the same as V2 (or may be the KR808D-2) but with the prices jacked up another 300%
If you like the style buy MANUAL batteries so they keep working like they should - see Vapor4Life.com (manuals have standard size buttons and a mostly sealed threaded end) or SmokelessImage Volt (rubberized, manuals have a tiny partially recessed button and a totally sealed threaded end) and keep your cartomizers damp with eliquid so they work well. Manuals make it easier to get a good hit, harder to damage or kill the battery with liquid leaks.
Use prefills or use any of hundred of juices from dozens of juice vendors in blanks. The only caveat - I recommend thin juices (20% or less VG) and avoid juices that drop a lot of flavoring sediment because that clogs the carto. I can get a week of use or more out of one Vapor4Life WOW carto on my Vapor4Life and Smokeless Image manual batteries.
And if that is not enough for you then there is nowhere else slim to go. KR808D-1 is the highest voltage slim e-cig at a full 3.7v. With the hotter cartomizers like Vapor4Life WOW cartos and SmokelessImage cartos, they have the most hit you are going to get out of nicotine on a slim ecig. The flavor is fine (you have to smell the vapor and keep the cartos damp because if you do not, you will singe the carto and ruin its flavor)
So it that's not enough then you go fat battery or mod because these can use LR (low resistance) cartomizers and atomizers that provide a hotter hit (and use battery charge faster). Most (possibly all) LR cartomizers are blanks you will fill yourself. Most of these devices are 510 threaded so few decent prefilled cartomizers are around even in standard resistance.
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swedishfish has given you the best and most cost-effective place to start. It will make you a good system, much better than what you now have, and you will be able to use many of the parts later, if you decide to go with a mod.
The advice to order your juice from somewhere else is a good plan. Canada has cracked down on nic juice, and they are grabbing juice at customs, although there are Canadian nic juice sellers. Check out the Canada forum on ECF. Canada Forum
The advice to order your juice from somewhere else is a good plan. Canada has cracked down on nic juice, and they are grabbing juice at customs, although there are Canadian nic juice sellers. Check out the Canada forum on ECF. Canada Forum
Shaun,
The way that I tell people to go is like this. First of all you start with a mod of 3.7 volts. Then depending on the type cigarettes that you smoked, you choose the atomizer. 1) the 510 is the hottest atomizer and if you smoked something like Marlboro reds this would be good for you. 2) The 901 atomizer is for a cigarette of medium harshness and 3) The 801 is the softest good for people who smoked lights and menthol cigarettes.
If you go with the 510 the Ego is a good model to start with and comes with a 510 connection. If you want 901 or 801 you will need to purchase a 510 to 901 or 510 to 801 adapter. I am not sure how the ego would react to these atomizers and the adapter. You might want to consider getting a cheap 3.7v box mod but with that not only would you need an adapter you would need more then likely 14500 batteries and a charger.
To keep it simple and to be sure that the atty you choose is the one for you, purchase a penstyle mod. The kind that is thin and looks more like a regualr cigarette. I am sure that some one on the Canada forum can point you to a store. Purchase manual batteries with it, the manual batteries have a button you need to press to activate them.
Above all do not give up too easily, read threads and ask questions, the people here are helpful.
If I can be of further assistance please let me know.
While very over priced V2 is a great 808 Shaun. If you are not happy with it than I would stay away from other 808s. Just about any other 808 may just be a lateral move for you. You would prob be happier with some of the other models people have mentioned- ego type etc. Good luck.
Ego is not 3.7v - more like 3.4v
The Riva 510 kits at Liberty-Flights.com are the new model (by I think Eastmall) which is 3.7v.
I have a Riva 510 too - could not resist the price of under $30 with that 20% off and I use Boge cartomizers with thinner (20% or less VG) juices. I use atomizer and drip tip for testing juices and vaping some that didn't earn cartos or were thicker than I put in cartos
The Riva 510 kits at Liberty-Flights.com are the new model (by I think Eastmall) which is 3.7v.
I have a Riva 510 too - could not resist the price of under $30 with that 20% off and I use Boge cartomizers with thinner (20% or less VG) juices. I use atomizer and drip tip for testing juices and vaping some that didn't earn cartos or were thicker than I put in cartos
OK guys. I have decided that I am going to go with swedish's advice and order the Riva 510- Lite Bundle. I was wondering what else do I need to get started beside the e liquid. Can I ask what are drip tips and boge cartomizers and do I really need them to get started?
V2 was the first brand of E-Cig I was introduced to. That was last week when I saw an online advertisement, since then I've found my way here. I haven't bought or tried any E-cig product yet but based on what I'm hearing I'm glad I waited.
Plus I saw a youtube video review of someone using the V2 power Cig, (their most powerful model). After I looked at it I noticed there wasn't much vapor being drawn out of it at all.
BTW is it only me, or is this review of top E-cigs rigged?
â‚ E Cigarette Reviews » Best Electronic Cigarette Review â‚
It ranks Green Smoke as the best, then V2 as 2nd, Safe Cig is ranked 3rd, and Blu Cigs fourth.
Ive heard terrible things about Blu Cigs, and im starting to think that one or more of these companies made a false review to promote their product.
Or maybe that review is just for slim models that look like cigarettes, I'm not sure but it looks fishy to me.
After I found myself here, and after a few days of research Ive heard several people say that the smaller the device is, generally the less power and battery life it has.
Within the next couple days I plan to buy the Maxi Roughstack from madevapes.com, after a decide what extras I want and parts. It's a nice solid looking unit that is getting some very positive comments. It is big however, and looks nothing like a traditional cigarette.
Personally I can deal with that because I'll be using it in my new apartment most of the time, where I can't smoke. Down the road I might go with something smaller as well, like an Ego for more portability. These still look bigger than the slim models offered at V2, but look to offer a balance of size and power.
Of course I'm paraphrasing comments Ive read in forums, but that's my 2 cents for what it's worth from a newb.
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With the Riva kit you can use the cart & atomizers that are supplied with the kit. The cartridge contains some stuffing material that you drip juice on and place it on your atomizer and the atomizer goes on your battery. I'm not a fan, but many people are. I think you get an inconsistant vape, they leak and don't hold much juice.
The boge cartomizer holds about double the amount of juice- about 1 ml and doesn't leak. Vape is more consistant. Downside is that since they do hold a lot of juice, once you fill it you're committed. With the cartridge/atomizer you can wash the cartridge out. I just find the cartomizer much easier to use but I do test juices with the cart/atty.
With a drip tip you can easily fill your cartomizer by pulling it off instead of pulling the little end cap off which you need some type of paper clip or binder clip to do. Plus less chance of getting juice in your mouth.
Do you need them? Probably not. But I like vaping much better with cartomizers and a drip tip. You'll probably want to eventually get them so you might as well save yourself the shipping and get them all together.
BTW, remember to review your order from Liberty Flights. You get a 49 cent credit for each review.
I know what you mean Mikenet. I browsed a lot of ecig review sites and v2,green smoke, and blu cigs seemed to always be at the top of the list. That was the reason I decided to buy v2 as my first ecig and that was a big mistake. I definately think a lot of review sites are rigged.
You have the option of using cartomizers, atomizers with cartridges and atomizers with drip tips. They all taste a bit different. A cartomizer is a unit that contains the heating element and the fller material that holds the e-liquid. You can use a drip tip with some cartomisers providing you can remove their tip. The drip tip allows you to fill the cartomiser easier or if you are using an atomizer, to drip your e-liquid into it. If you get an atomizer, It contains only the heating element, you have a choice of using blank cartridges which contain the filler material that your e-liquid gets dripped into so that you can vape or you can put a drip tip on the atomizer instead of a cartridge and drip 3 or 4 drop of e liquad at a time onto the atomize coil and vape on it that way. With a riva or ego, you would need to get a low voltage 510 atomizer because a regular 510 cartridge would not give you much of a vape (in my opinion). Your choices in low vlotage atomizers could be something like 1.5, 1.8 or 2.0 Ohms. The lower the ohms that the atomizer is the hotter and harder the hit will be. 1.5 ohn harder hit, 2.0 ohm softer hit.
You have to decide if you want to get some of each (cartomizer and atomizer) and see which one gives you the best vaping experience.
OK. So which drip tip do you recommend and how many would I need? On the website I am seeing metal, derlin and anodized. For the boge cartomizers would 1 pack of 5 be enough? Im leaning towards Boge 510 Cartomizer 2.0 Ohm (Black) - 5 Pack. I cant seem to find any Ohm under 2.0. Its either 2.0 or 3.0.
The 2.0 will be perfect for you. I prefer the delrin drip tips. I'm not fond of the metal (cold).
I have good luck with cartomizers. I basically use two juices, and one is PG clear so my juices last longer than some of the darker thick juices. So one cartomizer can last me a couple weeks. My mom uses thicker, dark juices so her's clog up faster and she may get about 5 days out of a carto.
I'd get two boxes. Espcially if your going to be trying out juices and things. It can't hurt and you'll have to order them anyway.
You only need a couple drip tips. I lose them for some odd reason- but you only need one or two. Provided your not like me and lose them, they last forever.
I have good luck with cartomizers. I basically use two juices, and one is PG clear so my juices last longer than some of the darker thick juices. So one cartomizer can last me a couple weeks. My mom uses thicker, dark juices so her's clog up faster and she may get about 5 days out of a carto.
I'd get two boxes. Espcially if your going to be trying out juices and things. It can't hurt and you'll have to order them anyway.
You only need a couple drip tips. I lose them for some odd reason- but you only need one or two. Provided your not like me and lose them, they last forever.
Yes they are fishy, bought and paid for by the vendors themselves or people using kick back codes of up to 20% for referrals of the overpriced stuff. There is nothing special about any of it. All made by the same Chinese manufacturers and rebranded with their names. They advertise and hype their overpriced stuff. At least V2cigs KR808 stuff while nothing special is compatible with other KR808 models.
You'll notice they only recommend models that give kickbacks. Lots of their YouTube video reviews are vendor generated as well.
Delrin tips are my preference. Inexpensive, look good, and last a long, long time. The metal ones which can be cold as swedishfish points out, also get hot fast with LR attys. Also there is a greater risk you'll chip your teeth if it gets knocked into your face. There are some gorgeous hand blown glass and stainless steel ones if you are into the look, but it's just a mouthpiece with a big hole.
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Did you purchase the riva lite yet ? Contact LF first and ask them if those batteries come without the pwm and are true 3.7v. The reason I tell you this is, I've been using egos for more than 8months, and I recently ordered one of the LF Riva SE batteries to try. Now I will never go back to the egos again. Just those few different points in the voltage makes all the difference in the world.
I ordered a kit for my neighbor a couple months ago and someone else mentioned that and I emailed them and they told me they are. But it's a good idea to ask yourself.
Here's the email-
Carol,
They are all 3.7v
Thanks,
Ty
On 5/23/2011 9:25 PM, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi I just placed an order for two Riva's about 5 minutes ago. Can I make sure to get the new 3.7v batteries?
Thank you
Carol
Carol,
They are all 3.7v
Thanks,
Ty
On 5/23/2011 9:25 PM, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi I just placed an order for two Riva's about 5 minutes ago. Can I make sure to get the new 3.7v batteries?
Thank you
Carol
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