New to Vapping but Experianced in Advocacy - The threat is real

[thew92]

Hi everyone I am new to these forums and new to vapping and have been lurking for a few weeks to learn a few things. I started vapping about a month ago and have been off analogs for a while now. But I noticed on this forum that there is a Legislation New section where this post might belong but I am too new to post there so I will say it here.

I have experience in grassroots advocacy with online poker. I see a lot of similarities with the poker community and the vaping community. I also see some legal similarities as well.

The poker community has online forums just like this one. Here y'all discuss mainly how to make MODs and the best way to vape. The poker community mainly discussed how to play a poker the best way.

Also the poker community has the PPA (Poker Players Alliance) and the Vape community has CASAA. Which from what I can tell the vapping community as a whole seems to be ignoring the legislation news for the most part just like poker players did back in 2006. And it was in 2006 where congress though it would be a good thing to ban online gambling and not exclude poker. They did this with a very vague law called UIGEA. Which may or may not of made poker illegal. Some poker sites stayed in USA until 4-15-2011. In 2006 we the poker community had no idea what to do about so UIGEA got passed.

I am glad to see we have and organization like CASAA out right now but I have spotted a few problems with them. First of them being it does not give the Vapors a place to write there law makers and speak out. Which IMO should of been the 1st thing they should have done.

In 2006 their where 2 types of lobbyist that where pushing UIGEA though the Vegas casino lobby and the Anti-gaming groups. I see the same thing happening with the vapping world. The anti-smoking group who think all tobacco/nicotine is bad and possibly if vaping gets big enough the Big Tobacco lobby because they see vaping as a threat to losing market share. I do not for see a ban on Ecigs/vaping but I do see a future of heavy regulation and limited competition in the market place. But I do believe that the Vaping community can get ahead of this now before its to late.

If we don't speak out about this to our law makers someone else will for you.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

First of them being it does not give the Vapors a place to write there law makers and speak out.

There's been many alerts from CASAA. They also have regular easily accessible meetings and are quite active.
CASAA

 

[thew92]

There's been many alerts from CASAA. They also have regular easily accessible meetings and are quite active.
CASAA

On the PPA website you can email your Congressman, 2 Senetors and POTUS. They may keep you informed but not instructions on what to do. I do plan on attending the next CASAA webinar but this was just one thing I notice that is not there. I don't want to come down negative on CASSA from the get go. I glad they are here but I do see some room for improvement.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

On the PPA website you can email your Congressman, 2 Senetors and POTUS. They may keep you informed but not instructions on what to do. I do plan on attending the next CASAA webinar but this was just one thing I notice that is not there. I don't want to come down negative on CASSA from the get go. I glad they are here but I do see some room for improvement.

CASAA Calls to Action

Here's one example:
UPDATE (9/5/2012): The formal legislative season has concluded in Massachusetts. No action was taken on this bill. Letters, e-mails, and phone calls are no longer required. CASAA thanks those who reached out.

Massachusetts Bill H.4291
(link: http://www.mass.gov/legis/journal/desktop/Current Agenda 2011/H4291.pdf)
would change Massachusetts' definition of 'smokeless tobacco' for tax purposes to include electronic cigarettes and dissolvable tobacco.

This bill would also:

Increase the MA smokeless tobacco tax rate from 90% to 110% of wholesale price, and also tax electronic cigarettes and dissolvables at 110% of wholesale price.

The bill has been introduced by the Massachusetts legislature's Joint Committee on Heath Care Financing as a substitute amendment to H2452, which has been referred to Joint Committee on Rules.


Please call, write or fax the members of the Joint Committee on Rules below.

What to say:
1. You oppose H.4291 because it would redefine the state's definition of "smokeless tobacco" to include new life-saving products like smoke-free electronic cigarettes.

2. Tell your story on how switching to an e-cigarette or smokeless tobacco has changed your life.

3. Explain that the purpose of increasing cigarette taxes has been to cover governmental healthcare expenditure caused by smoking and to discourage smoking. But since electronic cigarettes, dissolvables and smokeless tobacco products are 98-99% less hazardous than cigarettes, there is no fiscal or public health justification for such a hefty tax.

4. Point out that this bill also would tax "any component, part, or accessory" of e-cigarettes (e.g. hardware, batteries, rechargers, etc.), regardless of whether it contains nicotine. This would be the unfair equivalent of taxing items such as matches, cigarette lighters, ashtrays, etc. at the same rate as cigarettes.

5. Since many/most e-cigarette sales are made online, enactment of this legislation would devastate brick-and-mortar e-cigarette retailers in MA and destroy e-cigarette companies in MA, as they could no longer compete against out-of-state and international online suppliers.

6. Many smokers who switch to less hazardous electronic cigarettes do so because e-cigarettes are less expensive than cigarettes. Increasing the costs of e-cigarettes to that of cigarettes would discourage many smokers from switching to e-cigarettes. It could also encourage some e-cigarette consumers to go back to cigarette smoking.


Senate Members

Frederick E. Berry (Senate Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-1410
Fax: 617-722-1347
Email: Frederick.Berry@masenate.gov

Karen Spilka (Senate Vice Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-1640
Fax: 617-722-1077
Email: Karen.Spilka@masenate.gov

Stephen M. Brewer (D)
Phone: 617-722-1540
Fax: 617-722-1078
Email: Stephen.Brewer@masenate.gov


Jack Hart (D)
Phone: 617-722-1150
email: Jack.Hart@masenate.gov


Michael R. Knapik (R)
Phone: 617-722-1415
Fax: 617-722-1506
Email: Michael.Knapik@masenate.gov
Richard J. Ross (R)
Phone: 617-722-1555
Fax: 617-722-1054
Email: Richard.Ross@masenate.gov

House Members

John J. Binienda (House Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-2692
Fax: 617-722-2822
Email: John.Binienda@mahouse.gov

Cory Atkins (House Vice Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-2692
Fax: 617-722-2822
Email: Cory.Atkins@mahouse.gov

Byron Rushing (D)
Phone: 617-722-2783
Fax: 617-722-2238
Email: Byron.Rushing@mahouse.gov

Thomas M. Petrolati (D)
Phone: 617-722-2255
Fax: 617-722-2846
Email: Thomas.Petrolati@mahouse.gov

Ronald Mariano (D)
Phone: 617-722-2300
Fax: 617-722-2750
Email: Ronald.Mariano@mahouse.gov

Ellen Story (D)
Phone: 617-722-2012
Fax: 617-570-6577
Email: Ellen.Story@mahouse.gov

Eugene L. O'Flaherty (D)
Phone: 617-722-2396
Fax: 617-722-2819
Email: Gene.O'Flaherty@mahouse.gov

David M. Nangle (D)
Phone: 617-722-2575
Fax: 617-722-2215
Email: David.Nangle@mahouse.gov

Kathi-Anne Reinstein (D)
Phone: 617-722-2180
Email: KathiAnne.Reinstein@mahouse.gov

Garrett J. Bradley (D)
Phone: 617-722-2520
Email: Garrett.Bradley@mahouse.gov

Patricia A. Haddad (D)
Phone: 617-722-2600
Fax: 617-722-2313
Email: Patricia.Haddad@mahouse.gov

John V. Fernandes (D)
Phone: 617-722-2396
Fax: 617-626-0706
Email: John.Fernandes@mahouse.gov

Donald F. Humason, Jr (R)
Phone: 617-722-2803
Fax: 617-722-2390
Email: Donald.Humason@mahouse.gov

Paul K. Frost (R)
Phone: 617-722-2489
Email: Paul.Frost@mahouse.gov

Geoffrey G. Diehl (R)
Phone: 617-722-2810
Email: Geoff.Diehl@mahouse.gov

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[thew92]

Nice to see that was done.

Again I am new to CASAA as well. I would just like to know what to tell my congressman about this issue next time I see him. Seems like there are some worries on the Fed. level with the FDA.

 

[Taniger1]

Of course there are worries at the Fed level. We are in a recession and those of us who went to vapeing are NOT helping out with taxes on the national DEBT! We're no longer paying big taxes on tobacco.

On a slightly less humorous note, if you hang out a bit thew, you'll see quite a bit on the boards. We might SEEM laid back about what laws are going on in DC, but really, we do pay fairly close attention. Most vapers anyway do!

 

[B.Traven]

thew92:

Good post. You're probably right about regulation and limited competition. Lorillard has already bought Blu for $135million and I bet that's just the start. Big Tobacco will likely gobble up the industry, reducing competition, and they already know how to deal with regulation. I think the only thing you might have missed is taxation. More likely than not this product is going to be taxed and taxed heavily.

And I don't share your optimism about "talking" to legislators. I bet the gaming-industry lobby opposing online poker did one hell of a lot more than just "talk" to legislators. And I suspect that Big Tobacco can buy a lot of seats at that table.

As Frank Zappa said: "No way to delay that trouble coming every day..."

btraven

 

[tnt56]

When it does become illegal to vape then they can pry my hands off my pv right next to my Glock. We live in a country that is free and when I do something that is not illegal I will not put up with it. When It does become illegal then it's high time those people got out of a job. Agree with voice your opinion but all they want is the big tobacco bucks. and us to die so they can start all over. I've been denied breathing medication I needed because there was "something cheaper" Well I finally after a long period of time and phone calls got what I needed.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Of course there are worries at the Fed level. We are in a recession and those of us who went to vapeing are NOT helping out with taxes on the national DEBT! We're no longer paying big taxes on tobacco.

Every year for the last 4 or 5 years, there have been bills introduced in the MD General Assembly to ban the sale and possession of vaping gear in Maryland. Luckily, they get shot down every year, but they keep coming back.

I am convinced that this is 100% motivated by the fact that vaping gear and supplies are NOT taxed extra like tobacco products in MD and the greedy legislatures know that if they add on a special "vaping tax" for sales in MD, that people will just shop on line or in neighboring states.

Maryland is a corrupt, evil oligarchy, and EVERYTHING here is based on money. I hate MD, but now that I've found Vaping, I can get my "smoking" supplies from out-of-state through online sources, and I'm not putting a single peny inthe MD General Treasury to support their corrupt system through my habit...

We MUST be aware of what's going on in our Legislatures--State AND Federal--because these snakes will do ANYTHING they can to tax us, or just ban vaping outright--they are ALL in the pockets of Big Pharma and Big Tobacco, and those industries HATE the "vaping lifestlye"...

 

[thew92]

thew92:

Good post. You're probably right about regulation and limited competition. Lorillard has already bought Blu for $135million and I bet that's just the start. Big Tobacco will likely gobble up the industry, reducing competition, and they already know how to deal with regulation. I think the only thing you might have missed is taxation. More likely than not this product is going to be taxed and taxed heavily.

And I don't share your optimism about "talking" to legislators. I bet the gaming-industry lobby opposing online poker did one hell of a lot more than just "talk" to legislators. And I suspect that Big Tobacco can buy a lot of seats at that table.

As Frank Zappa said: "No way to delay that trouble coming every day..."

btraven

Taking to them and giving legislators our side of the story and letting them know we are watching is better not talking to them or speaking up at all. I am just suggesting that CASAA have a pre-writtten fully editable email that can go out to our law makers. I am guessing that our membership in numbers will do the job on this issue. Right now I have not an EASY way to do this.

Again I don't know the full history of CASAA and what they are doing and I want to work with them to get them and the vapping community more active politially and make CASAA a stronger force. I want to be a Vapor and a Vapping advocate. I am just looking into ways to do this. From what I can tell so far CASAA seems to be on the write track.

 

[thew92]

Every year for the last 4 or 5 years, there have been bills introduced in the MD General Assembly to ban the sale and possession of vaping gear in Maryland. Luckily, they get shot down every year, but they keep coming back.

I am convinced that this is 100% motivated by the fact that vaping gear and supplies are NOT taxed extra like tobacco products in MD and the greedy legislatures know that if they add on a special "vaping tax" for sales in MD, that people will just shop on line or in neighboring states.

Maryland is a corrupt, evil oligarchy, and EVERYTHING here is based on money. I hate MD, but now that I've found Vaping, I can get my "smoking" supplies from out-of-state through online sources, and I'm not putting a single peny inthe MD General Treasury to support their corrupt system through my habit...

We MUST be aware of what's going on in our Legislatures--State AND Federal--because these snakes will do ANYTHING they can to tax us, or just ban vaping outright--they are ALL in the pockets of Big Pharma and Big Tobacco, and those industries HATE the "vaping lifestlye"...

The don't "hate" the vaping lifestyle they probably just don't know the facts and it is up to us to give it to them or someone else will.

 

[StereoDreamer]

The don't "hate" the vaping lifestyle they probably just don't know the facts and it is up to us to give it to them or someone else will.

Oh, no, they DO hate vaping. Vaping takes money out of their greedy little talons, and there is nothing these sociopaths hate worse than losing profits...

 

[B.Traven]

Thew92:

You are exactly correct, talking to them is better than not talking to them, although I wonder if legislators and regulators pay much attention to pre-written emails. If I was in that position and I got lots of very similar emails, I would probably discount them unless the number of them was more than the margin by which I won the last election.

What was your experience with the PPA? What did they do? What could they have done that might have "turned the tip"? In my cynical older-age, I cannot help but believe that the money spent by the gaming interests was what did it for them.

As far as CASAA goes, the only thing I know about them is that ecigs are not their only "client". Just off the top of my head I think that the ecig community--users, retailers, wholesalers, manufacturers, all of them--need their own dedicated organization to start with and probably a PAC as well. PACs are easy enough to start, but it's the money part that's more problematic. How did PPA get operating funds and from whom? One critical difference in ecigs favor is that there are a lot more businesses involved.

This is an interesting issue. I'm glad I read your original post and your last comment.

btraven

 

[thew92]

You are exactly correct, talking to them is better than not talking to them, although I wonder if legislators and regulators pay much attention to pre-written emails. If I was in that position and I got lots of very similar emails, I would probably discount them unless the number of them was more than the margin by which I won the last election.

Some pay attention some don't. But its helps when/if on of our issues comes before the law maker so they can see who cares about this issue and the pros and cons of both sides. That why we need to tell them our side before its to late. And I will say this once again if we don't speak up for ourselves someone else will. Like Big Pharma or Big Tobacco.

What was your experience with the PPA? What did they do? What could they have done that might have "turned the tip"? In my cynical older-age, I cannot help but believe that the money spent by the gaming interests was what did it for them.

I am the Asst. State Director of Texas for the PPA (A non-paid position). The PPA is an non-profit organization that fights for the rights Poker Players.

As far as CASAA goes, the only thing I know about them is that ecigs are not their only "client". Just off the top of my head I think that the ecig community--users, retailers, wholesalers, manufacturers, all of them--need their own dedicated organization to start with and probably a PAC as well. PACs are easy enough to start, but it's the money part that's more problematic. How did PPA get operating funds and from whom? One critical difference in ecigs favor is that there are a lot more businesses involved.

I am not really sure if I am able to disclose where we get our funding. We do have a PAC. I also do believe that you can look us up on open government websites to see all of our dis-closer statements.

 

[John D in CT]

Great post, Dan.

We sure do have to make sure that this near-miracle-cure for smoking addiction isn't completely screwed up by the ignorant.

CASAA Calls to Action

[There have] been many alerts from CASAA. They also have regular easily accessible meetings and are quite active.

Here's one example:

UPDATE (9/5/2012): The formal legislative season has concluded in Massachusetts. No action was taken on this bill. Letters, e-mails, and phone calls are no longer required. CASAA thanks those who reached out.

Massachusetts Bill H.4291 ........

Here's another very annoying issue; Big Tobacco spreading lies about e-cigarettes (surprise, surprise)

http://blog.casaa.org/2012/09/casaa-responds-to-untruthful-e.html

FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2012

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CASAA recently filed a complaint against Ellen Hahn, director of the Tobacco Policy Research Program and the Clean Indoor Air Partnership including the Kentucky Center for Smoke-free Policy in the College of Nursing, for attempting to influence a hotel to cancel an e-cigarette meet in Lexington, KY. (Hahn also is the Project Director for a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (NRT manufacturer Johnson & Johnson)-funded project, "Northern Kentucky Clean Indoor Air Collaborative for Healthy Communities.")

Around the same time, under the guise of an organization called "Tobacco-Free UK," which appears to be a University of Kentucky Tobacco-Free Task Force also headed by Ellen Hahn, a poster began springing up around campus as students were returning to start classes. The poster (shown right) was titled "E-Cigarettes - 3 strikes. You're out." and ridiculously attempted to portray e-cigarettes as having no supporting evidence that they help people quit smoking, will cause cancer and are as harmful as breathing in the fumes of nail polish remover, paint thinner and fluid for "embalming dead bodies."


CASAA took some time to research the story behind these claims because, unlike Tobacco-free UK, we pride ourselves in disseminating truthful accurate, scientific and sourceable facts. The resulting flyer (shown left) was first conceptualized and then designed to reveal the falsehoods put forth on the T... poster. Because CASAA membership is made up completely of volunteers, the flyer was designed on a white background with very little graphics to keep costs down when printing.

The T... poster cited one source for its claims: "E-Cigarettes: Promise or Peril?" co-authored by none other than...Ellen Hahn. So we found the sources listed in her paper and posted them (with actual links) on the corresponding web page for our flyer at casaa.org/T....html. Now you can actually see for yourself how twisted and innacurate the "facts" listed on the T... poster really are. If you are in the University of Kentucky area, please help get these counter-flyers out on and around the campus!

*****

On second thought, this goes beyond "annoying" and is actually borderline criminal; vaping saves lives, and IMO spreading lies about it kills people. Last time I checked, killing people was a criminal offense.

 

[SissySpike]

Hi everyone I am new to these forums and new to vapping and have been lurking for a few weeks to learn a few things. I started vapping about a month ago and have been off analogs for a while now. But I noticed on this forum that there is a Legislation New section where this post might belong but I am too new to post there so I will say it here.

I have experience in grassroots advocacy with online poker. I see a lot of similarities with the poker community and the vaping community. I also see some legal similarities as well.

I have my story pre written how I smoked X amount a years how Vaping improved my quality of life how it helps for future medical costs as people quit smoking and start Vaping ect..... I just copy and paste it when Ever I see a call to arms and send it where ever its needed.
Sounds like your experience could be very usefull hope you join in where you can be needed!

 

[cra59]

I agree now my quetion is; I live in PA how do wich they don't like lossing money at all so how do i find the information on what they are doing and trying to pass on VAping

 

[DC2]

I am the Asst. State Director of Texas for the PPA (A non-paid position). The PPA is an non-profit organization that fights for the rights Poker Players.

You sound like you might be able to help, have you attended a CASAA meeting yet?

Honestly, they are an amazing organization doing amazing things.
But since they have very little in the way of resources, they could use all the help they can get.

It is free to join CASAA, and their meetings are open to the public.
They have a meeting every other Sunday at 4:30pm PST / 7:30pm EST

 

[Racehorse]

CASAA Calls to Action

Here's one example:
UPDATE (9/5/2012): The formal legislative season has concluded in Massachusetts. No action was taken on this bill. Letters, e-mails, and phone calls are no longer required. CASAA thanks those who reached out.

Massachusetts Bill H.4291
(link: http://www.mass.gov/legis/journal/desktop/Current Agenda 2011/H4291.pdf)
would change Massachusetts' definition of 'smokeless tobacco' for tax purposes to include electronic cigarettes and dissolvable tobacco.

This bill would also:

Increase the MA smokeless tobacco tax rate from 90% to 110% of wholesale price, and also tax electronic cigarettes and dissolvables at 110% of wholesale price.

The bill has been introduced by the Massachusetts legislature's Joint Committee on Heath Care Financing as a substitute amendment to H2452, which has been referred to Joint Committee on Rules.


Please call, write or fax the members of the Joint Committee on Rules below.

What to say:
1. You oppose H.4291 because it would redefine the state's definition of "smokeless tobacco" to include new life-saving products like smoke-free electronic cigarettes.

2. Tell your story on how switching to an e-cigarette or smokeless tobacco has changed your life.

3. Explain that the purpose of increasing cigarette taxes has been to cover governmental healthcare expenditure caused by smoking and to discourage smoking. But since electronic cigarettes, dissolvables and smokeless tobacco products are 98-99% less hazardous than cigarettes, there is no fiscal or public health justification for such a hefty tax.

4. Point out that this bill also would tax "any component, part, or accessory" of e-cigarettes (e.g. hardware, batteries, rechargers, etc.), regardless of whether it contains nicotine. This would be the unfair equivalent of taxing items such as matches, cigarette lighters, ashtrays, etc. at the same rate as cigarettes.

5. Since many/most e-cigarette sales are made online, enactment of this legislation would devastate brick-and-mortar e-cigarette retailers in MA and destroy e-cigarette companies in MA, as they could no longer compete against out-of-state and international online suppliers.

6. Many smokers who switch to less hazardous electronic cigarettes do so because e-cigarettes are less expensive than cigarettes. Increasing the costs of e-cigarettes to that of cigarettes would discourage many smokers from switching to e-cigarettes. It could also encourage some e-cigarette consumers to go back to cigarette smoking.


Senate Members

Frederick E. Berry (Senate Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-1410
Fax: 617-722-1347
Email: Frederick.Berry@masenate.gov

Karen Spilka (Senate Vice Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-1640
Fax: 617-722-1077
Email: Karen.Spilka@masenate.gov

Stephen M. Brewer (D)
Phone: 617-722-1540
Fax: 617-722-1078
Email: Stephen.Brewer@masenate.gov


Jack Hart (D)
Phone: 617-722-1150
email: Jack.Hart@masenate.gov


Michael R. Knapik (R)
Phone: 617-722-1415
Fax: 617-722-1506
Email: Michael.Knapik@masenate.gov
Richard J. Ross (R)
Phone: 617-722-1555
Fax: 617-722-1054
Email: Richard.Ross@masenate.gov

House Members

John J. Binienda (House Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-2692
Fax: 617-722-2822
Email: John.Binienda@mahouse.gov

Cory Atkins (House Vice Chair) (D)
Phone: 617-722-2692
Fax: 617-722-2822
Email: Cory.Atkins@mahouse.gov

Byron Rushing (D)
Phone: 617-722-2783
Fax: 617-722-2238
Email: Byron.Rushing@mahouse.gov

Thomas M. Petrolati (D)
Phone: 617-722-2255
Fax: 617-722-2846
Email: Thomas.Petrolati@mahouse.gov

Ronald Mariano (D)
Phone: 617-722-2300
Fax: 617-722-2750
Email: Ronald.Mariano@mahouse.gov

Ellen Story (D)
Phone: 617-722-2012
Fax: 617-570-6577
Email: Ellen.Story@mahouse.gov

Eugene L. O'Flaherty (D)
Phone: 617-722-2396
Fax: 617-722-2819
Email: Gene.O'Flaherty@mahouse.gov

David M. Nangle (D)
Phone: 617-722-2575
Fax: 617-722-2215
Email: David.Nangle@mahouse.gov

Kathi-Anne Reinstein (D)
Phone: 617-722-2180
Email: KathiAnne.Reinstein@mahouse.gov

Garrett J. Bradley (D)
Phone: 617-722-2520
Email: Garrett.Bradley@mahouse.gov

Patricia A. Haddad (D)
Phone: 617-722-2600
Fax: 617-722-2313
Email: Patricia.Haddad@mahouse.gov

John V. Fernandes (D)
Phone: 617-722-2396
Fax: 617-626-0706
Email: John.Fernandes@mahouse.gov

Donald F. Humason, Jr (R)
Phone: 617-722-2803
Fax: 617-722-2390
Email: Donald.Humason@mahouse.gov

Paul K. Frost (R)
Phone: 617-722-2489
Email: Paul.Frost@mahouse.gov

Geoffrey G. Diehl (R)
Phone: 617-722-2810
Email: Geoff.Diehl@mahouse.gov

Comma-delimited e-mail list:
frederick.berry@masenate.gov, karen.spilka@masenate.gov, stephen.brewer@masenate.gov, Jack.Hart@masenate.gov , michael.knapik@masenate.gov, richard.ross@masenate.gov, john.binienda@mahouse.gov, cory.atkins@mahouse.gov, byron.rushing@mahouse.gov, thomas.petrolati@mahouse.gov, ronald.mariano@mahouse.gov, ellen.story@mahouse.gov, gene.o'flaherty@mahouse.gov, david.nangle@mahouse.gov, kathianne.reinstein@mahouse.gov, garrett.bradley@mahouse.gov, patricia.haddad@mahouse.gov, john.fernandes@mahouse.gov, donald.humason@mahouse.gov, paul.frost@mahouse.gov, geoff.diehl@mahouse.gov

Semicolon-delimited e-mail list:

frederick.berry@masenate.gov; karen.spilka@masenate.gov; stephen.brewer@masenate.gov; Jack.Hart@masenate.gov ; michael.knapik@masenate.gov; richard.ross@masenate.gov; john.binienda@mahouse.gov; cory.atkins@mahouse.gov; byron.rushing@mahouse.gov; thomas.petrolati@mahouse.gov; ronald.mariano@mahouse.gov; ellen.story@mahouse.gov; gene.o'flaherty@mahouse.gov; david.nangle@mahouse.gov; kathianne.reinstein@mahouse.gov; garrett.bradley@mahouse.gov; patricia.haddad@mahouse.gov; john.fernandes@mahouse.gov; donald.humason@mahouse.gov; paul.frost@mahouse.gov; geoff.diehl@mahouse.gov

thanks for all this stuff, Vapoor eyes

 

[thew92]

You sound like you might be able to help, have you attended a CASAA meeting yet?

Honestly, they are an amazing organization doing amazing things.
But since they have very little in the way of resources, they could use all the help they can get.

It is free to join CASAA, and their meetings are open to the public.
They have a meeting every other Sunday at 4:30pm PST / 7:30pm EST

I do plan on attending the next CASAA webinar. I just started vapping that's why I attended in the past. I hope I can help out.