New Toy!!! What ohm build do you run on your Reo Grand/Reomizer

[stardust.hero]

I have a Reo Grand LP/Reomizer 5.0 and heard that the button is prone to melting at low sub ohm temperatures. The problem is I'm not sure how low is too low?

I tried my first build at .34ohm and it was cool and produced a nice amount of vapor. No problems with over heating. My 2nd build (which I am currently running at) is .26ohm. .26 produces a lovely amount of warm vapor and doesn't seem to be overheating. I take inhales intermittently not "chain vaped" and I don't take long drags. This build seems to be fantastic I just want to make sure it is safe.

Here is a picture:

Also there is a gap between the reomizer 5.0 and the Reo Grand LP, is this something that is normal? I didn't want to over tighten but this is as tightened as I feel comfortable turning it. Any suggestions on how to get it to sit flush as I see others with Reo Grand LPs paired with Reomizer 5.0s that are sitting flush?

Thanks guys! Loving this little gem

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Congrats on the Reo.

Is this new or used? New it will come with gold positive battery and springs. Used it many have the gold or the older silver colored contacts.

The old silver contacts are the ones that would could have a problems with builds that low and would with builds lower, I'm thinking you have the new gold contacts that also have a different button that can take more heat. I wouldn't go below .2 ohms.

Yes a gap is normal, many people use a o ring between the rba and the Reo, 1x10 and 1.5x10 mm O-rings are the two sizes I use

 

[stardust.hero]

Thanks for the reply! Loving this baby just made a Reo signature .

The Reo Grand LP is brand new as is the Reomizer, just received them in the mail today. I am using 24g Kanthal. I appreciate the information. I have been carefully vaping making sure not to pull too long or too often and have been sliding the back down to check the battery and the contact area to make sure it's not overheating. It hasn't gotten hot at all however. I wasn't planning on going below .2 but I was wondering if .25 and up would be safe as the build I just built is absolutely divine. Thanks so much for clearing that up for me . I can vape at peace with my glorious new toy.

Thank you for the o-ring information. I did stick an o-ring on that I had laying around (an extra from an RDA) but it is too thin. I will get myself a couple o-rings of the right size and put in inside the gap. Is there a way to make it sit flush? Would the reomizer need to be sanded down (is that possible/recommended?). I have seen others with the same setup but theirs sits flush. I would love for it to sit flush if that's possible and if I can do it without damaging or making anything unsafe.

I was also getting some sparks when firing where the top of the battery meets the positive contact as the button is pushed. I read up on it and read that it said adding a small bit of Noalox to the battery contact area would alleviate the problem. I wasn't sure about adding it to the positive contact and the mod was brand new so I knew it didn't have any buildup but I did notice once I applied the Noalox to the top battery contact it no longer sparked. I hope that this is normal as well and is safe. Should it also be applied to the bottom spring?

Thank you for all that information! Happy vaping!

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Congrats on the new setup.

You're down with battery safety, I assume (I mention that only because it looks like you prefer a lower ohm build). You might want to consider some added protection for your battery and contacts in the form of noalox or deoxit gold. Just put some on the firing pin (the lever that makes contact with the +ive contact of the battery), the top of the spring and on both contacts of the battery.

If you're running flat top bats, the goop would be a good idea to prevent arcing, too.

 

[stardust.hero]

Thank you! And yes, I believe I understand battery safety (I hope/better! LOL). I am currently rotating between (18650) Purple Efest 35A and Samsung 25R (rated for anything above .06). I am running flat tops and have added Noalox (provided in the package with my Reo) to the top of my battery/positive pin, I will add it to the bottom spring as well . Thank you for that tidbit!

I have been building on my Akuma at .18-.20. I was a bit worried that above .2 (.25) would be too high and not be a satisfying vape. I was so pleasantly surprised. The vape on a .26 is warm, the draw from the Reomizer 5.0 is the perfect amount of airflow. It produces the most satisfying cloud/vape.

I am also getting the hang of "squonking" it to refill. I rebuilt the 2nd time once I had a chance to see how it wicked onto the coils so I wicked it a little differently than my normal build for optimal absorption.

I am so super stoked. I would love to get the reomizer sitting flush on the Reo. I bought the Reo Grand LP so that I would be able to accommodate a larger RDA (Reomizer 5.0/Zenith 2.5) but also sit flush without any adapter. I would love some feedback/recommendations on that if anyone has experience with having a gap between the reo and the reomizer.

Thanks guys

 

[JC Okie]

Congratulations on your new toys. The Noalox was a good idea. Don't sand down your atty. No. I don't have an RM5, so I can't speak to the fit, but I wouldn't mess with the atomizer.

You probably know this, but just wanted to mention it just in case: That copper vein is beautiful, but it will tarnish really quickly unless you clear coat it early on here while it's still new.

If you didn't order them with this first order, I'd suggest getting a replacement spring (or two) just in case. They're just really nice insurance to have.

Enjoy your new toy. It's beautiful.

 

[built4feel]

Congrats on a beast of a mod, and welcome to the playground.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Train2]

The 510 connection MAY "work down" a little. Mine did.
I do use a very thin Oring, as for some of my atomizers with one airhole, that gives me a little "range" so I can aim the airhole where I want ("uphill" from my face).

But also, FYI, there is a new, adjustable and indestructible REO 510 connection coming in a month or so - so if you TRY to get flush and can't, you might long-term consider getting the 510 connector upgraded. Or at least wait for that on your NEXT Reo.

Have fun squonking!

 

[stardust.hero]

Congratulations on your new toys. The Noalox was a good idea. Don't sand down your atty. No. I don't have an RM5, so I can't speak to the fit, but I wouldn't mess with the atomizer.

You probably know this, but just wanted to mention it just in case: That copper vein is beautiful, but it will tarnish really quickly unless you clear coat it early on here while it's still new.

If you didn't order them with this first order, I'd suggest getting a replacement spring (or two) just in case. They're just really nice insurance to have.

Enjoy your new toy. It's beautiful.

Ahh... I figured sanding would be a bad idea.. I imagine I wouldn't be brave enough to do it myself anyways. . What do you recommend I use to clear coat it with, I would like to do that straightaway as I did read that. Thanks

Congrats on a beast of a mod, and welcome to the playground.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks! Feels good to be part of another great mod "group" I was part of the Provari clan for a long time. I love my Reo <3 I can tell this is going to be a long long love affair.

The 510 connection MAY "work down" a little. Mine did.
I do use a very thin Oring, as for some of my atomizers with one airhole, that gives me a little "range" so I can aim the airhole where I want ("uphill" from my face).

But also, FYI, there is a new, adjustable and indestructible REO 510 connection coming in a month or so - so if you TRY to get flush and can't, you might long-term consider getting the 510 connector upgraded. Or at least wait for that on your NEXT Reo.

Have fun squonking!

I hope in time in works down a bit but I imagine it won't work down that much :\. As for the new connection, you're saying that I can purchase the connection when it comes out and put it in and it might possibly fix the gap? Well that's something to look forward to. Thanks for that info .

 

[Rickajho]

Welcome!

Some perspective on this:

Since you got a brand spankin' new Reo you have all the sub ohm parts. Any "melting" was a problem with the older buttons being pushed to low ohms. The new button you have has higher heat tolerance.

It's really hard to actually hurt a Reo, but it does have built in limits. The battery spring will tolerate down to about 0.25 ohms and perhaps 0.2 ohms depending on how long you fire it. If you push it too hard the battery spring will start to sag, possibly to the point that you lose electrical contact on the positive ends of things. Should that happen - you found the Reo limits. Don't be tempted to stretch out the spring and reuse it at that point - replace it. The spring is your safety and will collapse if you do something really scary like fire a dead short. A collapsed or sagging spring that has been stretched out and reused doesn't have the same capacity to collapse a second time if it needs to.

 

[RGLP4Lyfe]

And yes, I believe I understand battery safety (I hope/better! LOL). I am currently rotating between (18650) Purple Efest 35A and Samsung 25R (rated for anything above .06).

Just so you know, those efest "35a" are actually only rated to 20amps. That 35 on there is just a selling point and actually BS. They are 20amp continuous batteries and should be used as nothing else. Just be safe!


My love- Kawa Reo LP w/ TRA SL door & LokiLab Odin.. Mmm Mmm

 

[Roscoe01]

Thank you! And yes, I believe I understand battery safety (I hope/better! LOL). I am currently rotating between (18650) Purple Efest 35A and Samsung 25R (rated for anything above .06). I am running flat tops and have added Noalox (provided in the package with my Reo) to the top of my battery/positive pin, I will add it to the bottom spring as well . Thank you for that tidbit!

I have been building on my Akuma at .18-.20. I was a bit worried that above .2 (.25) would be too high and not be a satisfying vape. I was so pleasantly surprised. The vape on a .26 is warm, the draw from the Reomizer 5.0 is the perfect amount of airflow. It produces the most satisfying cloud/vape.

I am also getting the hang of "squonking" it to refill. I rebuilt the 2nd time once I had a chance to see how it wicked onto the coils so I wicked it a little differently than my normal build for optimal absorption.

I am so super stoked. I would love to get the reomizer sitting flush on the Reo. I bought the Reo Grand LP so that I would be able to accommodate a larger RDA (Reomizer 5.0/Zenith 2.5) but also sit flush without any adapter. I would love some feedback/recommendations on that if anyone has experience with having a gap between the reo and the reomizer.

Thanks guys

.06 ohm build on a 25r!!!! That would be 70 amp drawn on a 20 amp battery. Please don't ever listen to whoever told u that was safe ever again.

No disrespect but that kind of Info is likely to get someone seriously injured sooner than later. Please everyone build safely within the limits of batteries.

OK rant over....BTW congrats on a sweet new reo setup! Get ready to start picking out #2[emoji16]

 

[super_X_drifter]

Congrats on your new mod and welcome. As you've already witnessed, that beast is anything but a toy and is more closely related to Mil spec gear

I'd be highly wary (as others up there ^ have already suggested) about building that low for any mod with any battery.

You really don't want to go by claimed pulse rating - infact, pulse rating should be discounted entirely. Why? What happens if the mod your running accidentally and unknowingly fires and stays that way, say, in your pocket. Can you live happily with a melted package? I know this kid couldn't

I would never suggest to build at or beyond your batteries safe MCD rating, rather to increase the efficiency of your builds so you can get the warmth and vapor of a super sub build in a .5 ohm build.

Your package, face and battery's will thank you for thinking of them in such high regard

Here is an identical pair of slammin dual tensioned micro coil builds (29 ga, 8 wraps ea, 1.6mm inside diameter netting .6 ohms) wicked with KGD and as productive as any build I've run to date

 

[stardust.hero]

Welcome!

Some perspective on this:

Since you got a brand spankin' new Reo you have all the sub ohm parts. Any "melting" was a problem with the older buttons being pushed to low ohms. The new button you have has higher heat tolerance.

It's really hard to actually hurt a Reo, but it does have built in limits. The battery spring will tolerate down to about 0.25 ohms and perhaps 0.2 ohms depending on how long you fire it. If you push it too hard the battery spring will start to sag, possibly to the point that you lose electrical contact on the positive ends of things. Should that happen - you found the Reo limits. Don't be tempted to stretch out the spring and reuse it at that point - replace it. The spring is your safety and will collapse if you do something really scary like fire a dead short. A collapsed or sagging spring that has been stretched out and reused doesn't have the same capacity to collapse a second time if it needs to.

Thanks for the confirmation on the button melting issue. That's great to know about the spring, first instinct may be to stretch it out and go about your business. Thank you for the heads up on that .

Just so you know, those efest "35a" are actually only rated to 20amps. That 35 on there is just a selling point and actually BS. They are 20amp continuous batteries and should be used as nothing else. Just be safe!


My love- Kawa Reo LP w/ TRA SL door & LokiLab Odin.. Mmm Mmm

Thanks for that info, I don't build any lower than .15 (on my other mechs) 24gauge but I always assumed that was safe with the batteries and the battery limits I had?

.06 ohm build on a 25r!!!! That would be 70 amp drawn on a 20 amp battery. Please don't ever listen to whoever told u that was safe ever again.

No disrespect but that kind of Info is likely to get someone seriously injured sooner than later. Please everyone build safely within the limits of batteries.

OK rant over....BTW congrats on a sweet new reo setup! Get ready to start picking out #2[emoji16]

No disrespect taken, I always appreciate input and concern when it comes to using my devices safety. Like I said above I don't build below .15 (.18 is my sweet spot) but I did think that the batteries were rated to go to .06.. What are they rated at, do you know?

And thank you I know I love this thing to death! Best mod I've ever had.

Congrats on your new mod and welcome. As you've already witnessed, that beast is anything but a toy and is more closely related to Mil spec gear

I'd be highly wary (as others up there ^ have already suggested) about building that low for any mod with any battery.

You really don't want to go by claimed pulse rating - infact, pulse rating should be discounted entirely. Why? What happens if the mod your running accidentally and unknowingly fires and stays that way, say, in your pocket. Can you live happily with a melted package? I know this kid couldn't

I would never suggest to build at or beyond your batteries safe MCD rating, rather to increase the efficiency of your builds so you can get the warmth and vapor of a super sub build in a .5 ohm build.

Your package, face and battery's will thank you for thinking of them in such high regard

Here is an identical pair of slammin dual tensioned micro coil builds (29 ga, 8 wraps ea, 1.6mm inside diameter netting .6 ohms) wicked with KGD and as productive as any build I've run to date

Drifter!! Awesome to see you in my thread , I have watched your videos on the Reo, you were actually one of the people to convince me in one of you posts that it would be the right choice for me.

Besides you being like my Reo celebrity, like I said I don't build anywhere near .06, I didn't mean to throw anyone off and make them think I was building that low. .18 is my preferred spot on most mechs but I've built a .26 on this one to test the water and it seems to be vaping wonderfully. I just want to get feedback on whether .2-.25 is safe? Is .18 safe?

I love your build, I've never been able to get my micocoils to work well for me. Those micro wraps are absolutely beautiful, so perfectly done. You are an artist .

Anyways thanks guys! Loving this more and more <3. To think of what I've been missing out on these past 2 years I've been vaping. I would like to make sure my batteries and setup are safe though.

 

[Roscoe01]

Here is some really good reading on batteries. It helped me understand better about battery safety.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

ETA: .18 would exceed the ratings of both batteries u listed. I suggest u obtain get a 30 amp battery if u want to go lower than .25 ohm. I do know the authentic Sonys are 30 amp but impossible to find with all the fakes on the market.

Another good idea is to post pics of your build and let the guys here make suggestions on tweeks. there is a lot of experienced vapers here in reoville and u would be surprised how much small changes in build can improve your vape.

I learned most of what I know about building rdas from lurking here in reoville long before I became a reonaut.

 

[Bigflyrodder]

There isn't a better on the planet rated for 70amps!!!!!!!!! I don't know who gave you that info or how you are doing the math but that is way way way off.

Simple fix, download an Ohm's Law Calculator to your smartphone or device for quick reference.

As example, on a battery with a 20amp limit like the efest, the max build is .21 and that is MAX. I try not to get too close to the at line just for piece of mind.

OK, PSA off... congrats on the new Reo set up! Looks great, glad you are enjoying .

 

[Bigflyrodder]

Just realized I never answered the OP's original question: I usually run right around 1.0ohm build in my RMs (mouth to lung), works best for me but YMMV. I have many other atties that I run dual coil, those are almost always set up right at around .5ohm(direct lung). Seeing a trend here? lol... hey, it's just what I like.

 

[stardust.hero]

Thank you all for you welcome into the Reo-club as well as your tips and concerns.

I have since been able to take the advice of Train2 and have been able to screw my RM5 down to a comfortable/safe feeling level. It's not sticking up ridiculously anymore, I've gotten it to sit about 1mm from being flush which for this OCD person is do-able Thanks for that tip, it did work down with use and time and I didn't have to force it . Thanks!

As well, all who have voiced concern about the batteries I had in rotation and the ohm coils I was building. I have been on a search to find a battery that would be a happy medium. I think the Xtar vtc4 rewraps would be my best option for built between .18-.25 Xtar Battery. I would LOVE any feedback from the lovely Reo crew on what they think .

Also all my employees/friends who said they'd never mech/drip because they didn't want to have to carry around bottles/batteries were in love with my Reo . I challenge anybody to beat the awesomeness of the Reo

<3 Much Love!

 

[Terri70]

Very informative for a noob like me. Can't wait to get mine! Ordered it today.

 

[stardust.hero]

Yay Terrie! Congrats and welcome (my first person to welcome now that I'm an official Reovillian(?heh) ) You are going to love this thing to bits! I've started from 808s, to spinners, to the Provari (my longest companion) to the mech world Akuma Black Matte and now this glorious piece. I have since considered listing my authentic Akuma in the classifieds.

I enjoy what some would consider lower sub-ohm builds, by any means they aren't nearly as low as some people go but my happy place is at .18. I am running .25-.26 on my Reo to stay on the safe side for my mods sake I did read about button melting issues but it appears from use and from feedback I've received that Rob has changed the button (I believe to delrin?) and it no longer is in danger of melting with the builds I enjoy. I still don't want to push it so I plan to stay above .2.

I also read there was a large voltage drop with the Reo but it appears with the new gold contacts this is also no longer a problem. I have tested it myself and it is a very very minor drop if any. Barely noticeable (it may just be in my head because I read it ).

Those were my two concerns before purchasing the Reo and were almost a reason I was going to choose not to despite all of it's amazing features. Luckily those two major issues are no longer a problem. I am a completely satisfied Reonaut . Enjoy!!! You will love this baby . I haven't picked up any of my other mods since this arrived.