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I am going to add, it is better for the battery (built in or not) to let it rest after use before charging and after charging before using again. Letting it rest for 6 hours after use and for about an hour after charging will help extend the life of the cell.

I'll have to get another mod, that's pretty clear! :)
 
You guys are moving goal posts. Again. Had nothing to do with rebuilding.

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Here's what you asked for:


Can you link me to a single accident involving a variable wattage regulated device? Because if not, you are overreacting. I've done days of research on such happenings before buying my first rda and cannot find a single example.Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

They gave multiple examples to you, and now you're claiming it has nothing to do with rebuilding. It's what you asked for. And it didn't take "days of research" to find it.
 

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So then maybe we should quit using them and start chewing gum. Because there are obviously greater dangers then telling a new vaper he shouldn't be building a coil.

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You miss the whole point of everything don't you, and well at this point I am not going to spell it out for you, if you want to remain ignorant go for it I have better things to do with my time
 

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Thanks! What is the 510 connection? What should I be looking for on the coils? Thanks. And why shouldn't I charge it overnight? (I charge my phones overnight).

510 connection - is the threaded area, the part that your tank screws onto - even the tanks threads.


theoretical ------if you order 1.8 coils(listed), and you put them on your tank/mvp - check them, if they read 1.7-1.9 it should be fine. BUT if they read way off, for example .5 or 2.0, then your "1.8" coils are no good and have some QC issue with them.


charging overnight is bad taboo, yes many people charge their phones overnight, but the same "problems" or incidents can also happen. its just better off to charge them in daytime, where you can monitor them incase of an issue - such as the cloupers posted above, the first batches of the mod caught fire when atempted to be charged from the usb port. - its better to be safe then sorry.
 

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You miss the whole point of everything don't you, and well at this point I am not going to spell it out for you, if you want to remain ignorant go for it I have better things to do with my time

+1 to NancyR's post.... seriously man just accept it that things can go wrong.... I'll say a prayer for you and for any new vapers that you give advice to...
 

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Here's what you asked for:




They gave multiple examples to you, and now you're claiming it has nothing to do with rebuilding. It's what you asked for. And it didn't take "days of research" to find it.
Umm the thread is about rebuilding so my post was about rebuilding. Replying in any other context is going off topic. Does one really have to be that descriptive to for people to understand what he is asking for when the topic at hand is about rebuilding?

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You miss the whole point of everything don't you, and well at this point I am not going to spell it out for you, if you want to remain ignorant go for it I have better things to do with my time
I'm not being ignorant at all. You guys are claiming rebuilding is so dangerous even on a regulated device yet cannot provide a single accident linked to rebuilding on a regulated device.

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510 connection - is the threaded area, the part that your tank screws onto - even the tanks threads.


theoretical ------if you order 1.8 coils(listed), and you put them on your tank/mvp - check them, if they read 1.7-1.9 it should be fine. BUT if they read way off, for example .5 or 2.0, then your "1.8" coils are no good and have some QC issue with them.


charging overnight is bad taboo, yes many people charge their phones overnight, but the same "problems" or incidents can also happen. its just better off to charge them in daytime, where you can monitor them incase of an issue - such as the cloupers posted above, the first batches of the mod caught fire when atempted to be charged from the usb port. - its better to be safe then sorry.

Thank you! I'm using dual coils or something (have to look in the kitchen to check, but they're kanger). I charge my mod with the micro USB cable it came with and a cell phone charging adapter. I'll try to charge it as safely as possible but until I get a second one I'll be without it too many hours of the day if I can't charge it while I sleep.
 

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Umm the thread is about rebuilding so my post was about rebuilding. Replying in any other context is going off topic. Does one really have to be that descriptive to for people to understand what he is asking for when the topic at hand is about rebuilding?

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with the amount of assuming going on in this thread, yes - if your going to bring up a point to "share", it needs to be specific.


as you posted,
Oberon said:
Can you link me to a single accident involving a variable wattage regulated device? Because if not, you are overreacting. I've done days of research on such happenings before buying my first RDA and cannot find a single example.Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

people took it literal, and gave you literal information - sorry you threw that out the window, because YOU only WANT stories that contained an APV and a RDA to "cause an accident"


the fact still stands, REGARDLESS of rda or not, APVS can indeed "cause an accident"

if you want to get even more literal - the cloupers catching fire, posted above - they can/did "cause an issue" when an atty wasnt even installed on top. just the box itself being charged.


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the point is, accidents can happen, but certain dangers can be avoided "SIMPLY" by Learning how to use your device (mod, atty,AND rebuilding)
 
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    Umm the thread is about rebuilding so my post was about rebuilding. Replying in any other context is going off topic. Does one really have to be that descriptive to for people to understand what he is asking for when the topic at hand is about rebuilding?

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    Looked to my like he was pretty inclusive with his first post, covering everything from RBAs to brewing a gallon of juice.

    Originally Posted by Oberon
    Can you link me to a single accident involving a variable wattage regulated device? Because if not, you are overreacting. I've done days of research on such happenings before buying my first RDA and cannot find a single example.Sent from my HTC One M8 Harman/Kardon edition

    This incident was reported to be a RDA.
    E-cigarette explodes in California man’s face | fox8.com
    So was this one.
    Vape Blast Mech Mod Explosion
     
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    with the amount of assuming going on in this thread, yes - if your going to bring up a point to "share", it needs to be specific.


    as you posted,

    people took it literal, and gave you literal information - sorry you threw that out the window, because YOU only WANT stories that contained an APV and a RDA to "cause an accident"


    the fact still stands, REGARDLESS of rda or not, APVS can indeed "cause an accident"

    if you want to get even more literal - the cloupers catching fire, posted above - they can/did "cause an issue" when an atty wasnt even installed on top. just the box itself being charged.

    Ive never said or assumed mods cannot be dangerous but my whole point is rebuilding on a regulated device isn't nearly as dangerous as people are making it out to be.

    And all people taking it literal is doing is showing that they don't have a good rebuildable argument so they had to shift the focus on something else, unrelated to the topic. Its like arguing gas tank explosions on an automotive board when the topic is tires.

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    I am going to add, it is better for the battery (built in or not) to let it rest after use before charging and after charging before using again. Letting it rest for 6 hours after use and for about an hour after charging will help extend the life of the cell.

    Could you confirm your statement please?
     

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    Ive never said or assumed mods cannot be dangerous but my whole point is rebuilding on a regulated device isn't nearly as dangerous as people are making it out to be.

    And all people taking it literal is doing is showing that they don't have a good rebuildable argument so they had to shift the focus on something else, unrelated to the topic. Its like arguing gas tank explosions on an automotive board when the topic is tires.

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    Oberon75 said:
    Can you link me to a single accident involving a variable wattage regulated device? Because if not, you are overreacting. I've done days of research on such happenings before buying my first RDA and cannot find a single example

    pick a side and stick with it. either it HAS a chance or is DOESNT have a chance to be dangerous?

    regardless of "whats more possible", the fact is there is a CHANCE, PERIOD. - saftey first - ALWAYS!
     

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    Poster #1: "Can you link me to a single accident involving a variable wattage regulated device?"
    Poster #2 *Link*
    Poster #3 *Link, Link, Link*
    Poster #4 *Link*
    Poster #1 "You're getting off topic".

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    And again. The discussion was about rebuilding. Is it that hard to put 2 and 2 together?

    So I guess I'll ask again in a way so people who can't read thread topics can understand.

    Can you link me to a single "REBUILDABLE" accident on a regulated device?

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    And all people taking it literal is doing is showing that they don't have a good rebuildable argument so they had to shift the focus on something else, unrelated to the topic....

    lol they gave you what you asked for! Word for word! Despite your flip flopping around.

    Mods CAN be dangerous when an inexperienced person starts experimenting without knowledge of basic safety measures. As far as how dangerous people make them out to be? I would think anything that can cause injury and/or property damage should be regarded as serious.
     
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    And again. The discussion was about rebuilding. Is it that hard to put 2 and 2 together?

    So I guess I'll ask again in a way so people who can't read thread topics can understand.

    Can you link me to a single "REBUILDABLE" accident on a regulated device?

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    See above, post 111

    Rebuildables if used wrong can be dangerous.
    Mechanical mods if used wrong can be dangerous.
    Regulated mods if used wrong can be dangerous.
    end of story
     
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    pick a side and stick with it. either it HAS a chance or is DOESNT have a chance to be dangerous?

    regardless of "whats more possible", the fact is there is a CHANCE, PERIOD. - saftey first - ALWAYS!
    Of course, safety first always but people shouldn't act like rebuilding an atomizer on a regulated device is some kind of advanced thing like working with dynamite. So far the regulated accidents that have happened have had nothing to do with this "potentially deadly" thing like building a 1.3 ohm coil with 28g kanthal.

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    Could you confirm your statement please?

    The times I quoted come from people who know a hellva of a lot more about batteries than I do, however as far as the resting this is from Charging Lithium-Ion Batteries

    "Relying on the closed circuit voltage (CCV) to read the available capacity during charge is impractical. The open circuit voltage (OCT) can, however, be used to predict state-of-charge after the battery has rested for a few hours. The rest period calms the agitated battery to regain equilibrium. "

    Much like checking the oil in your car, you don't drive for 100 miles turn off the engine and check the oil, you let it rest so the oil settles first.
     

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    Well, as a relatively new vaper (started around late January), I think I've advanced pretty quickly. I'm making my own juices, go RTA/RDA (haven't really touched the clearo in a few weeks (or half my vaping life), and am waiting for my first mech mod (SS+brass M16!). Still, when I started, I wasn't sure whether or not I'd be into the whole vape thing, let alone the whole rebuild your own X thing, so at the time, the less commitment meant the better (even if only psychologically so). While I was pretty confident about RBAs, I did want the assurance of something I knew that was easy (ie load coil head, fill, done) vs perceputally time-intensive (ie RBAs, though that turned out not to be the case). The same for juice. The DIY juice thing pretty much came from necessity (shipping juices w/ nic is ...pricey and relatively time-intensive here; plus, the juices I got initially were promising, but ultimately unvapable (as they were)).

    Given shipping time and fees, and local costs, if I had to go the mech mod/DIY juice/RBA route off the batt on something I wasn't sure I'd like (which also means I'd have to get a mod, batteries, a charger, PG/VG, nic, etc etc, determine what my "vaping style" (or parameters for enjoyment) were, and learn/re-learn several disparate subjects at once- easily over the cost of DIY, even if only in the short term), I probably would've just stuck to rolling tobacco and cigaettes, while vaping on occasion (at best). Plus, where I'm at, vaping venues are in short supply and vapers even shorter.

    All to say, even though I grew out of regulated (well, not completely- I still like and am planning on using my MVP 20W) mods, clearos, and pre-made juices relatively quickly, there still was a point to it and if I had to do it again (without knowing what I know), I'd still do the same. If my descent into vaping madness were a chemical reaction, my starters were the intermediary- Unstable and easily discarded, but wholly necessary to lower the activation energy.
     
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