New: VaporSmiths 808 vGO Auto/Manual 1000 mAH

[CloveHunter]

Noticed these two today:

VaporSmiths 808 vGo Automatic 1000 mah battery
VaporSmiths 808 vGo Automatic 1000 mah battery (this one link to manual)

Not much detail so far.

Seems like KR8's fat batts are growing...

EDIT:
Details so far:

• 3.7v regulated
• Auto Sealed

 

[McDougal]

Noticed these two today:

VaporSmiths 808 vGo Automatic 1000 mah battery
VaporSmiths 808 vGo Automatic 1000 mah battery (this one link to manual)

Not much detail so far.

Seems like KR8's fat batts are growing...

EDIT:
Details so far:

• 3.7v regulated
• Auto Sealed

Is VaporSmiths an ECF registered vendor?

Also, is the charger a fast charger like an eGo?

 

[McDougal]

Here's my dilemma. I want a KR808 fat battery, but as far as I know, all have benefits/drawbacks.

Echo/iTurbo:

Pros: Huge battery life for very cheap (~$15), uses Echomizers (large cartos) or standard 808 cartos.

Cons: Does not have a fast charger. It takes ~8 hours to charge.


Smokeless Image MaXx Volt:

Pros: Comes with a fast charger (?), has a passthrough, and optional stealth LED.

Cons: A little pricier- $30 for 1300 mAh, appears to not have a cone option or threading, cannot take the Echomizer.


Ego or Riva with a KR808 adapter:

Pros: Pretty cheap, can use 808, 510 or large cartos, fast charger.

Cons: Adapter issues (?)




If the Vgo posted above has a fast charger, I assume this would be the ideal fat battery for me. And what are the real drawbacks of using an Ego with adapter?

 

[CloveHunter]

Is VaporSmiths an ECF registered vendor?

Also, is the charger a fast charger like an eGo?

They have this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...forum/204087-official-vaporsmiths-thread.html - not much happening there except some announcements.

Don't know much about the charger (yet), you might want to chat/email them at their website tho.

 

[CloveHunter]

Just want to chip in on the counter-cons, hope this will solve your dilemma, not the other way around

Here's my dilemma. I want a KR808 fat battery, but as far as I know, all have benefits/drawbacks.

Echo/iTurbo:

Cons: Does not have a fast charger. It takes ~8 hours to charge.

If you have two batteries (a kit), it's not a problem One charged, used one the whole day.
But I know you might want just a battery (I know I do, but the benefits of the kit seems worth the cost) - of course if you always have a good night 8 hours sleep, it won't be a problem at all

Smokeless Image MaXx Volt:

Cons: A little pricier- $30 for 1300 mAh, appears to not have a cone option or threading, cannot take the Echomizer.

It's pricier indeed but it's a PT (bonus price point unless you don't care about it).
I might miss a post about it can't take the Echomizer, care to share?

Ego or Riva with a KR808 adapter:

Cons: Adapter issues (?)

You could get Riva 901 if you want to stick with KR8.
It's 900mAh tho, but others said it won't make much a different with the 1300.

Personally, I try not to use adapter not because of technical issue but because I am clumsy *sigh* - one more small thing to handle is too much

 

[Kemosabe]

the only adapter drawback ive run into is the adapter being dead on arrival. if your adapter works when you recieve it, youll be golden.

Here's my dilemma. I want a KR808 fat battery, but as far as I know, all have benefits/drawbacks.

Echo/iTurbo:

Pros: Huge battery life for very cheap (~$15), uses Echomizers (large cartos) or standard 808 cartos.

Cons: Does not have a fast charger. It takes ~8 hours to charge.


Smokeless Image MaXx Volt:

Pros: Comes with a fast charger (?), has a passthrough, and optional stealth LED.

Cons: A little pricier- $30 for 1300 mAh, appears to not have a cone option or threading, cannot take the Echomizer.


Ego or Riva with a KR808 adapter:

Pros: Pretty cheap, can use 808, 510 or large cartos, fast charger.

Cons: Adapter issues (?)




If the Vgo posted above has a fast charger, I assume this would be the ideal fat battery for me. And what are the real drawbacks of using an Ego with adapter?

 

[Charlz]

there are echo chargers on the market that charge twice as fast but honestly, an 1100 or 1300 mah battery will last all day so daily use and nightly charging is not a problem. The stealth echo kit at Vaporgirl comes with a faster charger too.


The vaporsmith battery for $20 comes with a charger. That's not bad. Need a picture. Wish these things would stop coming out with "sealed". It's the new trend that is also a bunch of garbage. They aren't really sealed, make for a tighter draw and cause compatability issues with adapters. We need to revolt.

 

[CloveHunter]

The vaporsmith battery for $20 comes with a charger. That's not bad. Need a picture. Wish these things would stop coming out with "sealed". It's the new trend that is also a bunch of garbage. They aren't really sealed, make for a tighter draw and cause compatability issues with adapters. We need to revolt.

The picture is up on VS's website, I took a risk on getting one, as you said $20 with a charger is not bad. Turned out it also works with iGo cartos & iGo Crystal Vision.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

The picture is up on VS's website, I took a risk on getting one, as you said $20 with a charger is not bad. Turned out it also works with iGo cartos & iGo Crystal Vision.

Any reviews for us?

PS: I thought the VGO was unregulated?

 

[CloveHunter]

Any reviews for us?

PS: I thought the VGO was unregulated?

I'll write it down sometime during weekend

This 'vGo' supposed to be custom made for VS and it's regulated, auto and sealed. Auto & sealed part are confirmed; still waiting for my multimeter to return home to check the regulated part.

So be patience

 

[est]

I'll write it down sometime during weekend

This 'vGo' supposed to be custom made for VS and it's regulated, auto and sealed. Auto & sealed part are confirmed; still waiting for my multimeter to return home to check the regulated part.

So be patience

Does it come with a cone?

 

[CloveHunter]

Does it come with a cone?

No, but some report KGO/Riva cones fit.

 

[nesta]

i get the idea its the gen 2 type, not really a 808 vgo... i tried a regulated 3.6 fatty, an it was just nothing close to the performance of my real 808 vgo'.... just sayin

 

[CloveHunter]

i get the idea its the gen 2 type, not really a 808 vgo... i tried a regulated 3.6 fatty, an it was just nothing close to the performance of my real 808 vgo'.... just sayin

Yes, I agree.

That's why I always wrote it 'vGo', it's not 'real' vGo, it's more like a cross between Echo silver stealth body (one small led near the end of the batt) with KGO/Riva style thread. Or automatic iGo. Whatever.

Comparison-wise, it's like comparing regular KR8 gen1 (V4L - unregulated) vs. regular KR8 gen2 (Volt - regulated)

 

[nesta]

yea... the post has no notch if im informed correctly,, is that right? the threads notch n holes on the kanger vgo is just ideal. its been the most compatible friendly an best performing batt ive yet owned

 

[Charlz]

man, when they come out with an unregulated auto 808 fatty that comes off the charger high........I just may let my echos rest for a moment. Well, as long as I could still use the echomizers on it so I have to throw in flat connection, not cone. I need the 3.4ml to get through the day.

I though v4l would be the ones to do it but they've jumped on the gen2 bandwagon now. It's backwards. Those that know enough to know the difference chose them because they'd rather have an unregulated, open draw battery with a high cutoff so what do they do? They come up with a copy of every else's gen 2 and charge twice as much for it.

I'm loving everyone finally having these, though. I have to keep my eyes open cause someday something will come along to dethrone the echo. At least the Vaporsmith battery is priced right!

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I agree with your assessment of V4L, I too had hopes that they would put out a rocking gen 1 fat batt auto and/or manual

the good news is they are still gen 1s, and according to morandirs data, hold their voltage better than anything we've seen so far in the auto world

the bad news is they have switched to the sealed set up, and are over priced. that said, I don't have one (yet), but I hear the draw hasn't been negatively affected, because the thread holes are larger, number three instead of two, and the battery post holes are two, not one.

we'll see.

the fuss about gen 1 vs. gen 2 makes sense only if you ignore the fact that V4L gen 1s hold their voltage so well that when comparing similar milliamp batts you get maybe 30 mins less with V4L, but your voltage runs from 4.2 to 3.9 for most of the time, and flirts with 3.6 before it dies. accounting for that fact, gen 2 is really not an improvement at all.

my only concern about echomizers would be that horizontal coils tend to fry juice about 3.7 volts, not sure if they could handle the gen 1 V4L. but if V4L just followed what they new worked they could easily cook up a DCC with vertical coils for a fat batt that could handle the voltage.

 

[McDougal]

my only concern about echomizers would be that horizontal coils tend to fry juice about 3.7 volts, not sure if they could handle the gen 1 V4L. but if V4L just followed what they new worked they could easily cook up a DCC with vertical coils for a fat batt that could handle the voltage.

That's exactly why I like my regulated Volt big batt. I love the horizontal coils, and IMO, they work far superior to standard single coil cartos. Again, personal preference. When I put a horizontal coil on my gen 1 batt off the charge, it's indeed running too hot.

To me, the benefits are longer batt life and a stronger vape at lower batt voltage with the horizontals on a gen 2.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I agree with most of what you're saying. My issue with gen 2s is the draw, too damn tight. And I wish they were a tad warmer, so a v4l with a wow carto still wins for me

that said for some reason the Echo with an Iturbo, Fluxo, or DCC Echomizer is very satisfying to me, despite its gen 2 style. For some reason I get a more satisfying draw despite the tightness. Part of it is, the Fluxo is much more open than any other carto of tried, and all of the above cartos rock on flavor. The only thing I'm missing is a touch more heat, but honestly its pretty much a non issue as the above cartos break all the rules in a good way

Even the Echo with a SR horizontal coil is better for me than a 'regular' gen 2 with the same carto

 

[McDougal]

Yeah, the stiffer draw was different for me, but the more I used it, the more it became a non-issue. It almost seems like the pull on it is more "even," if that makes any sense.

One thing I have noticed on the Volt is that when the endcap is on, the draw is slightly stiffer than without it. Usually, I'll just loosen it a bit and it improves. I'm not sure if this is the case on all big batts, because this one is my first.