New Variable Voltage device from smoktech?

[VAPNJ350]

[QUOTE I believe the electronic safeguards make the VMax exempt from the currently proposed standards. Thanks for your feedback about this new device - it's all been speculation until now!

Not a problem BB, anything to help the family is truly my pleasure,glad I could be of some assistance and fill in the blanks for some folks that are interested and curious about the VMAX. I do need to clear about a few things though. I love the provari and the darwin,I favor the provari for mainly 2 reasons,it functions the way I prefer,and it is tubular which is also my preference. I just never really got into square or the whole "box mod" look. I did and still do hold a special place for my fistpaks,all 3 of them,but their not really a "box" their everything I look for and want in a ecig mod, small, multi or vari-voltage, quick easy functions, big battery power,and POWERFUL, oh yeah and ofcourse appealing to the eye. I dont really care too much for the darwin but only because of its shape,thats really it,nothing more,nothing less. But all in all, I LOVE ALL ECIGS,ECIG MODS,etc... etc... Lets face it, were ALL on the same side here,darwin folks, provari folks, buzz folks, we all bleed the same color blood, and without all these powerfully beautful devices we would all probably be sucking on a stupid cancer stick awaiting the inevitable .....sure death. Take care everyone,and whatever you do,KEEP ON vaping. ....
. J

 

[markfm]

Provari v1 would go to 15w at 6v. V2 is a 14.5w device (14.7 at 4.2v I believe), notcigs pro series does 15w. This device does 3x the power?

Electronic safeties do not exempt any device from needing mechanical vents, since sometimes a battery just plain bites the dust in a bad way. If you are being told this someone is lying to you. Drop a pv, battery goes unhappy, you need a vent.

 

[zoiDman]

Provari v1 would go to 15w at 6v. V2 is a 14.5w device (14.7 at 4.2v I believe), notcigs pro series does 15w. This device does 3x the power?

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That's kinda what I didn't get about the "3 Times" the power thing?

15 watts is More than I need on my Provari seeing that I VERY seldom even use it at 10 watts or more.

No say'n that there arn't others out there that need more than 15 watts. I guess if they do, they shouldn't consider getting a Provari.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

That's kinda what I didn't get about the "3 Times" the power thing?..No say'n that there arn't others out there that need more than 15 watts...

Most people would be happy with single coil's and the original 2.5amp limit..but some people are just nutz and must enjoy the TH of melting/burning things

Well if you could feed juice fast enough to a big enough coil things wouldn't get too hot to melt things lol...

 

[440BB]

As for overall safety stacked batteries certainly introduce another risk. The question was whether the EMSS standards would be met. Here's what's in the thread currently:

"EMSS - ECF Metal tube mods Safety Specification v2

The EMSS, and warnings to buyers, are only applicable to metal tube mods that can take two batteries either by design, or by user error, or by deliberate misuse, and where the mod will function with two batteries inserted. The EMSS therefore refers to mods that accept two batteries, or that accept an 18500 or 18650, and could therefore have two smaller batteries inserted, and without electronic controls that prevent operation due to overvoltage. Some fully-electronic mods, that may accept two batteries, may therefore be exempt since they will not function."

Just quoting, no lies.

 

[zoiDman]

Most people would be happy with single coil's and the original 2.5amp limit..but some people are just nutz and must enjoy the TH of melting/burning things

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No argument here. LOL

 

[fsroq]

As for overall safety stacked batteries certainly introduce another risk. The question was whether the EMSS standards would be met. Here's what's in the thread currently:

"EMSS - ECF Metal tube mods Safety Specification v2

The EMSS, and warnings to buyers, are only applicable to metal tube mods that can take two batteries either by design, or by user error, or by deliberate misuse, and where the mod will function with two batteries inserted. The EMSS therefore refers to mods that accept two batteries, or that accept an 18500 or 18650, and could therefore have two smaller batteries inserted, and without electronic controls that prevent operation due to overvoltage. Some fully-electronic mods, that may accept two batteries, may therefore be exempt since they will not function."

Just quoting, no lies.

So this means the Vmax is exempt because of the electronic safety build in.

 

[markfm]

Think people will call me a provari fanboy now?
(I prefer my notcigs gear, everyone knows, but the notcigs and provape products both set a very high bar in terms of quality, performance, ruggedness, customer service, real engineering went into them.)

 

[markfm]

So this means the Vmax is exempt because of the electronic safety build in.

If the vmax is designed for two batteries the spec does apply, I believe. The exemption, I'm pretty sure, would be if a pv had electronics that would not work if they saw a 6 v or higher battery voltage, that would only work if a single battery was installed.

(trying to get the Smoktech to comply is a different matter)

 

[fsroq]

Why not? Nothing against people liking their stuff. If you like it for its quality, for the looks, or whatever reasen, and are willing to spend the money on that, thats OK, and easy to understand.

Dificult to understand is some others, who talk all the time about stacked batterys, forgetting that booster VV are representing a minority market. The market is dominated by stacked VV equipment, and that was fine untill a new player came out with a mod outperforming most of the others, and more expensive.

Then this is also because some sellers are comparing with the pv, and the looks are similar, so provoking this even more.

To pv lovers, who dont want this mod to be a winner, dont talk about it. The more you do, the more Vmax will be sold.

 

[mgmrick]

If the vmax is designed for two batteries the spec does apply, I believe. The exemption, I'm pretty sure, would be if a pv had electronics that would not work if they saw a 6 v or higher battery voltage, that would only work if a single battery was installed.

(trying to get the Smoktech to comply is a different matter)

comply to what.... who wrote these spec's and what is their back ground?

 

[fsroq]

Roly, and for good reasons. Stacked batterys can be dangerous, if not treated properly

 

[mgmrick]

Roly, and for good reasons. Stacked batterys can be dangerous, if not treated properly

Really...oh ok

 

[MickeyRat]

comply to what.... who wrote these spec's and what is their back ground?

This is the specification: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-rules/271739-emss-ecf-metal-tube-mods-safety-specification.html

I'm not sure about the qualifications and they really aren't specified. In industry, organizations like the ASME (American Society of Mechanical Engineers) write these kinds of specs. Obviously PVs are below the radar for that kind of thing. Apparently ECF is stepping in to fill the vacuum. Whether it will be effective remains to be seen.

 

[Jimi D.]

I've been vaping 6&7 volts for over a year now, with stacked batteries, and dual cartomizers. I've had no problems.

 

[fsroq]

Well to be honest, any high energy bat could be dangerous, IMR are safer then others, a single is safer then 2 or more stacked.
Then two stacked IMR treated properly, in a device prepaired for that should just work fine withouth any problems IMHO.

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

I've been vaping 6&7 volts for over a year now, with stacked batteries, and dual cartomizers. I've had no problems.

These voluntary guidelines are to ensure that newcomers, without the benefit of your experience, can safely enjoy HV vaping.

Personally, I just put some juice on a fork and stick it in an outlet and I've had no problems no problems no problems

 

[Jimi D.]

These voluntary guidelines are to ensure that newcomers, without the benefit of your experience, can safely enjoy HV vaping.

Personally, I just put some juice on a fork and stick it in an outlet and I've had no problems no problems no problems

Smart .....I like that

 

[440BB]

A picture or it didn't happen! lol

 

[mgmrick]

I just read thru the emss post.

I see alot of " We Think"

That really bother's me that standards, or should I say rules are being created when I read read " We Think"