New video - Re-stuffing M-401 carts: up close and personal

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Sun Vaporer

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Not a good idea to use cotton... burns up as soon as it get stoo dry and can mess up the atomizer.

Spikey is right on point--you what to use 100% polyester fiber (20 oz)!! That is all that is in the originals--please watch Terrapon's Video--as he explains the how, what, where and why very clearly---Sun
 

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Bumping for great justice!

Also to thank Starlight, i would have bought the "silky" type if it wasn't for you. I wasn't able to find the "roll" of poly (that I think, from looking at it, is better) , but the big pillow I have here should do the trick. I'm glad I finally found it after wandering around in 5 places.
Damn lil dropping plastic bottles (the one that you guys can get at usplastics as suggested by Rita) got me on a 15+ places wandering spree. I've spotted a chemistry stuff shop 10 miles from here, someone told me they have bunsens, ampollas, that stuff. I hope they do have some frigging lil bottles!

4€ x 1 bazillion carts = 1 happy Smo!
 

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Thanks for the video, Terraphon.:thumb:

I figured I'd add my findings for using this method on my 901...
I used a fiberfill called, "ploy-fil"made by a company named Fairfield (I'm pretty sure this is the same stuff Terraphon used)...

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I tried to make my homemade filling about the same size as the original, but found it a bit harder to work with. By that, I mean harder to "shape" for fitting it in the cart, and stray filaments being much more prevalent. My fingers must not be nearly as nimble as Terraphon's because I had a hard time trying to fold those loose ends and get them to stay while I rolled the fiberfill. I found it easier to lightly roll the fiberfill between the palm of my hand and the index and middle fingers of my other hand. I stress the term lightly because, as it has already been said, you don't want the filling to be too compact or it won't wick properly.
The original filling was rolled into a cylinder shape and then folded in half. I did the same thing with my homemade filling.

Original filling (left to right; unrolled, rolled, rolled and folded)...

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My filling (left to right; unrolled, rolled, rolled and folded)...

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To remedy those stray filaments, I found two solutions that both worked well; cutting the excess with a scissors once loaded into the cart, or quickly passing a flame across the end of the cart to melt them.


Just for the hell of it, I tried to make another filling that was more identical to the original. As you can notice from the pictures, the original filling in my carts was a bit more coarse than the fiberfill. The filaments are mostly aligned in one direction, and they are joined together at various points. I attempted to replicate that by holding the stretched out fiberfill, in a pair of tweezers, over the flame of a lighter. I made sure to keep the fiberfill about 6" (15 cm for you more civilized metric system users :D) above the flame and continually moved the lighter around so as to not burn or over-melt the fiberfill. Given just the right amount of heat, the fiberfill filaments will melt slightly and bond with nearby filaments.

Here's the result (left to right; heated fiberfill and original filling)...

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The melted fiberfill is much easier to work with. But, it remains to be seen if it wicks as well as the originals or my "plain" fiberfill fillings.
For right now, I'd say the original and the "plain" fiberfill fillings work about equal, with the melted fiberfill being not as good as the other two. I'll give them all some more testing and if I get different results, I'll be sure to post an update.
 
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Terraphon, thanks so much for posting the video. Very helpful.

just had a thought and wondered if a polyester sponge would work. It would keep it's shape and you wouldn't have them stray fibre wondering around all the nooks and cranny's.

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just a thought , may not work at all :)

When I was having trouble making a cartridge filler (I still haven't tried it yet since watching the video, but the ones I tried before the video were too dense I think), I tried the black-colored foam rubber stuff that came in my e-cig box to hold it in place. I cut a very small amount in a rectangle shape and stuck it in my cartridge drenched with juice. It seems to be working great. I bet you there's some bad stuff in there, though, that I probably shouldn't be inhaling. Oh well. I'll try the polyfiber again later.
 

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Terraphon,
Interfacing is different. It is what keeps collars and shirt cuffs from loosing their shape. feel a shirt collar. It's the material in between the front side and backside. The material comes in bolts like regular material . You only buy what you need. Frequently you can find it in the markdown bin with the rest of the bolt ends.


Thanks, Sandra
 

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I used Terraphone's method for a few weeks, but didn't have the success I wanted. Tried larger size & smaller size pieces of fill, loosely rolled, tightly rolled etc., etc.
I Recently started "balling" the poly fill with much better results. Leakage seems alot more minimal also (I load my carts. to the brim). Excellent vapor production all the way 'till it's dry.
I mush the stuffing into a ball. lightly, but firmly pack cartridge using a paper clip. Pull the stuffing out slightly trim with sissors. Push stuffing back in so it receeds slightly from the edge of the cartridge. Very simple & effective.

Thanks Terraphone for all of your reviews and threads. They have been very informative and educating for me.


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I used Terraphone's method for a few weeks, but didn't have the success I wanted. Tried larger size & smaller size pieces of fill, loosely rolled, tightly rolled etc., etc.
I Recently started "balling" the poly fill with much better results. Leakage seems alot more minimal also (I load my carts. to the brim). Excellent vapor production all the way 'till it's dry.
I mush the stuffing into a ball. lightly, but firmly pack cartridge using a paper clip. Pull the stuffing out slightly trim with sissors. Push stuffing back in so it receeds slightly from the edge of the cartridge. Very simple & effective.

Thanks Terraphone for all of your reviews and threads. They have been very informative and educating for me.


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I've actually found that balling it up works better, too...the stray fibres can be trimmed, as you mentioned, if they're an issue.

Also, you're welcome. I'm happy to help as much as I can.
 

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In another post, someone was using teabags for their filler. He was worried about the burning polyester fibers. You cut the top off the tea bag and empty out the tea. Then you cut the bag into ½ strips. Roll up the teabag strip and insert it into your cart then fill with liquid.
I try this method last night with my kissbox and it did work. My cart took 20 drops and it did taste smoother.

Here is the link

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11394-replacing-cartridge-wool-14.html
 
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