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kalojado

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LOL, the more I look today, the more I am liking the M401. I did find a site where the prices seem to be extremely affordable. Its www (dot) ruyandirect (dot) com

Have you or anyone else here dealt with them and even if it is cheaper, is it a waste of money in the long run? I was thinking it would be an affordable way to get 2 of these kits, one for me and the wife, a couple extra atomizers and some juice and I think I would be around 100 bucks. Any info is appreciated!

Thanks,
Brad
 

howard

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Howard, GREAT review, thanks. I just received my 510 and haven't even charged it up yet. Looking forward to doing so. All I've been using the last 12 days is my RN4081 (Super e-cig).

I really have no complaints with the RN4081 because I haven't any comparison yet.

I've got an 801 coming in the mail. Should be interesting going back and forth and deciding the pros and cons.

Thanks.

Btw, Usually when you order kits, there's two batteries. Both require charging but I'm told & I've read that you can use the secondary battery for a quick test/puff or two. These batteries don't come fully charged(unless the supplier indicts), but they do have just enough power for you to test them.

kalojado said:
LOL, the more I look today, the more I am liking the M401. I did find a site where the prices seem to be extremely affordable. Its www (dot) ruyandirect (dot) com

Have you or anyone else here dealt with them and even if it is cheaper, is it a waste of money in the long run? I was thinking it would be an affordable way to get 2 of these kits, one for me and the wife, a couple extra atomizers and some juice and I think I would be around 100 bucks. Any info is appreciated!

Thanks,
Brad

I've been searching through various suppliers on this site as well as others. Ruyandirect aka "Heaven Gifts" does appear to have lower prices. But you should also keep in mind that they are in China, as well as "Eastmall" if I'm not mistaken. The prices are quite appealing but when you factor in the S&H costs and the time it takes for them to arrive. It just about cancels out any benefits. IF you are buying larger quantities then it's a different story.

Both suppliers(Heaven Gifts & Eastmall) from China appear to have a pretty good selling history, at least from the comments left here.

Good luck with your decision making process.

I'm currently researching a good supplier for either the DSE601 or the Ruyan e-pipe, and when I factored in the costs of S&H and the unpredictable nature of product arrival. It's left me doing a double take.
 

kalojado

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Yeah, thanks for the info. I did notice the $20 shipping charge with a 10-15 business day arrival time. Still looking, but it does seem to be a good deal to start out. I can get 2 M401 kits, with 2 extra atomizers and 50 carts for right about $120 shipped here to the USA. Now, I would not use them to purchase juice or refill carts in the future, but I could see myself using them to get started.

If anyone else has any site where I could get this much product, in the same 401 style for around the same price, please let me know, because I would obviously rather go with a company here in the USA. I have looked at the entire list of USA distributors today and can't seem to find a deal as good as that one...
 

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I have an order on the way from ruyandirect right now and others have had good things to say about them. I have also ordered M401 parts from absolutelyecigs and their prices are good too. Lately shipments from China have been getting to me in 5-7 days. Honestly, I was going to get my last order from esmokershop, but I wanted some stailess steel batteries that they didn't have.

Funny thing is that I will have to order from bestecig again - they seem to be the only one that carries the Red Tea flavor, and I'm hooked on it!
 

Viper

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Hi Chris. I am new to the forum because I am trying to find out information on how to sell electronic cigarettes after I met a person diagnosed with throat cancer (in remission now) and was smoking one. She explained about them to me and I was very impressed. Having read many of the posts regarding the FDA and The E-Cigarette and the law, I am puzzled as to how this person would cause you to change your website name. Is that something that I would need to be concerned about? Would you be so kind as to explain how that happened? Thank you kindly.
-Debbie

I have been reading this forum for awhile because of some personal experiences with people who have quit smoking cigarettes by using e-cigarettes. The information on the FDA here is very valuable. I usually don't have much to say. I have found the answers to most of my questions on this forum. I thank all of you for being so generous with valuable information. I am puzzled, however, about why one would have to change their website name. I have already messed up by trying to post about the FDA and Cheerios. I did not know that I could not post links yet! Lo and behold I found the Cheerios link posted properly.

Please forgive me if I stumble a bit (or probably a lot). I probably missed the obvious again but can anyone tell me why I would have to change a website name that I would register and pay for? I would think that when I buy it I could use it. I'm pretty sure that the FDA is not going to confiscate the Cheerios in my cupboard, but why would I have to give up a website name?

Thank you for your help.
 

RsL

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As I understand it, to fully charge the 510 it takes 7-8hrs.

Sorry, but I couldn't read this comment without making a clarification. The 510, as well all other e-cigs, should be charged for 8-12 hours for their FIRST charge. From then on you can pretty much rely on when the light on the charger turns green, unless the manual states differently. As to the 510, it is without a doubt the fastest charging battery I have in my large collection of e-cigs! :D
 

kalojado

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Okay, I do have a couple other questions. When you buy the pre-filled carts, can you refill those? If so, how long does a cartridge last if you keep refilling it? If not, how many times can you refill a blank cart? Just kind of wondering why you need more carts after a while. Does the 'filter' stuff inside the cart go bad or something?

Also, I was looking at the juices, and I know this has been asked elsewhere, but how long would say a 30ml of juice last? I keep seeing people say only use one or two drops at a time, but I was wondering just how much you can get out of those little bottles?

Thanks again!
Brad
 
I haven't posted before (I'm not even sure I'm doing it right), but I've been reading ALOT of posts and see plenty of info about many suppliers, good and bad, but very little about ECSi.

Good prices, Unbelievable fast shipping, FREE shipping, and they reply quickly to emails. What more are we looking for?

By the way, I've really learned a lot from all of you in the forum. Thanks.
 
I haven't posted before (I'm not even sure I'm doing it right), but I've been reading ALOT of posts and see plenty of info about many suppliers, good and bad, but very little about ECSi.

Good prices, Unbelievable fast shipping, FREE shipping, and they reply quickly to emails. What more are we looking for?

By the way, I've really learned a lot from all of you in the forum. Thanks.

Who is ECSi? Thanks
 

AquarianAlex

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Hi, I am new to this forum. I already browsed this forum prior to ordering my first e-cigarette from smokingeverywhere.com... I just got it in the mail this afternon... I think I screwed it up if it s ever possible...

I followed the instruction manual... I put the catridge in the e-cig and I tried smoking on it. The red light lit up, and I exhaled only a bit vapor. Then I got this liquid taste into my mouth which I spat out. Then I tried to smoke it again and got the same liquid taste again.

I realized that I may have needed to charge it first, so I unscrewed the catridge and charged it. Then some liquid got onto my hands from the catridge. The charger indicated green after 10 minutes so I screwed the catridge back on and tried to smoke it. No red light and again the liquid got into my mouth. it tasted awful and i spat it out. I am charging it again and wrapped the catridge in a napkin to keep it from drying.

What am I doing wrong? :)
 
SharonLM - as a new forum member I'm not allowed to post URL's, but if you put "smoke and live, what a concept!" in a google search it'll show you the site. It's Electronic Cigarette Sales Inc.

Their juice is so good you could just add a few ice cubes and knock it back!

Found it, thanks, bookmarked it. Interesting site!
 
Hello I'm Joanna

1, We have 4 undisciplined cats. What safety issues do I need to be aware of as far as PG, nicotine and cats? (signs of allergy and/or overdose) This is problematic for us because we have one cat who enjoys smoking with my husband (She will go out of her way to inhale second hand smoke. No we don't let her have cigarettes.), And another cat that will lick/eat almost anything. Any help or advice?

2, Any links in regard to eliquid/vapor and cats?

3, Should I boil my atomisers on arrival to avoid primer taste or are there better methods? Having no idea what he's going to taste and little experience with this equipment I'd like to give him the best shot of sticking with this.

4, He's hesitant to try fruit or candy flavor due to a bad mini cigar incident. aside from dedicating an atomizer to certain flavors what can I do to make this a happy alternative to analogs for him?

5, Which flavors need a dedicated atomizer?

6, What are the signs of allergy and/or overdose? Could some kind person point me to a link where I might find that information

7, Any other analog-anon wives out there?


thanks
joanna

1- see Kates links about cat info. I would tell him to try not to blow it at them and also LOCK your juice when not in use. Lock box at the hardware store does the job and the bottle he is USING should also be kept in a sealed or zippered bag or box or an eyeglass case (some of us use those to carry our stuff around)

2- only data is on consumption of PG and we are not sure how much is "consumed" by second hand inhalation.. but may be minimal.

3-although it is nice not to have to "puff off" the primer taste... no reason to boil or wash a perfectly good atomizer (sometimes.. rarely.. but sometimes... they die from cleaning them if they are made porrly) Just have hum juice the arch of the atomizer and puff (NOT inhale.. PUFF) the primer fluid until the taste is gone.

4- Fruit flavors seem to taste best to a lot of people because of the way the sweetness of the PG and VG mix with them... but if he doesn't like them... stick with dryer flavors.

5-Menthol flavors, RY4 flavors stick in an atomizer and cherry flavors seem to also. Can't think of others off the top of my head.

6-health section has allergy info. Allergy would be to PG. Most people experience SOME side effects while adjusting.... severe sore throat, ........, mouth sores are common.... but I am allergic to PG and he will know the difference if he is allergic. Hives, throat closing, difficulty breathing, throat pain and face swelling etc... (if it is a lind allergy would be harder to tell).

#1 sign of nicotine overdose is a headache. Also.. racing pulse and dizziness. Even at 3 packs a day... he likely does not need more than 24MG juice.

There are a bunch of "supporters" on here who don't vape.

I am down to zero nic and I LOVE vaping. It is very tasty. I would not push anyone to develop a habit they don't need... but if you don't have a strongly addictive personality.. get a small bottle of zero nic juice (or PM me your address and I will send you a small sample bottle) and try it. You could also come to the next Vapers Club meeting on Long Island. Let Me know if you want an "invite" to the Vapers Club group so you can come to the meetings!
 

cyberwolf

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Hi, I am new to this forum. I already browsed this forum prior to ordering my first e-cigarette from smokingeverywhere.com... I just got it in the mail this afternon... I think I screwed it up if it s ever possible...

I followed the instruction manual... I put the catridge in the e-cig and I tried smoking on it. The red light lit up, and I exhaled only a bit vapor. Then I got this liquid taste into my mouth which I spat out. Then I tried to smoke it again and got the same liquid taste again.

I realized that I may have needed to charge it first, so I unscrewed the catridge and charged it. Then some liquid got onto my hands from the catridge. The charger indicated green after 10 minutes so I screwed the catridge back on and tried to smoke it. No red light and again the liquid got into my mouth. it tasted awful and i spat it out. I am charging it again and wrapped the catridge in a napkin to keep it from drying.

What am I doing wrong? :)

First, the batteries may need to be charged before using. Most manuals will indicate that you should charge them for 8 hours before first use, although many of the batteries I have purchased were already charged. It's best to charge them anyway. Some chargers will falsely indicate a completed charge. Try leaving the battery on the charger overnight and see if that helps. Do the same with your other battery before using, if you haven't yet.

As for getting the liquid in your mouth, that happens sometimes (I know, yuck!). Most likely you just drew a little too hard on the cartridge and because the atomizer wasn't heating, that's even easier to do. You will need to clean the cartridge to avoid having it happen again. Push the end of a paper clip into the small hole in the cartridge and push the inner cartrige completely out. Clean the outside of the inner cartridge and the inside of the large outer cartridge with a paper towel. Now put the inner cartridge back in and push it down into place with the paper clip.

When you get your batteries working, try to start off with real easy longer draws. If the batteries still don't work, it's time to contact SmokingEverywhere and get a refund or replacements.
 
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