Nhaler, extremely bad service

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Dea

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Hi,

I've had a big problem over the past few weeks but I've kept it quiet until now. I've had enough.

I ordered two Xhaler kits from Nhaler. I got them and one did not work. I called and we soon found it was missing a spring. Nhaler shipped that out to me and I began using the other Xhaler.

I only used it for a few hours. Decided very quickly that I didn't like it. I have two reasons for this. I sent Nhaler a message that I would be returning the units as soon as the spring for the first unit arrived. When it did i packaged everything up and shipped them back. Checked the tracking number after a week and learned that the USPS had tried delivering the package twice. No one signed for it. Now it's sitting at the post office and will be shipped back to me.

During this time i tried contacting Nhaler. Which I finally did manage to do one evening. First I was pressured to give them my reasons for wanting a refund. Then I was told they don't give refunds. Let's read the terms and conditions, "Return section"


  • Return Policy
  • Customer Satisfaction is of utmost importance at NHaler.com. If you are dissatisfied with merchandise purchased through NHaler.com for any reason, you may return the item within 30 days from the date it was shipped to you. For sanitary reasons, and the overall safety of our Customers, we cannot accept returns of cartridges. Therefore, our Returns Policy EXCLUDES any and all cartridges. At your option, you may receive a full refund, excluding shipping cost, or a replacement item if available. The process is very simple and straightforward: 1. Repackage the item including all original parts, packing material, instructions, etc. Within reason, this means that everything must be returned exactly as it was sent to you. Poor repackaging or the return of damaged merchandise could result in refusal of your return and loss of any refund or replacement item. 3. Include a copy of the original Packing List in the package, and indicate whether you would like to be refunded for the item, or a replacement sent out. 4. Ship the item (at your expense and your choice of carrier) to the address with which you were provided on the original Packing List that was sent with your item. 5. If you are to receive a refund, it will be issued by NHaler.com when the returned item has been received in satisfactory condition. Refunds will be processed within 10 business days of receiving the items.
I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me or if it says "refund". Sorry, I'm not exactly happy at the moment. Today I got a pm from an Nhaler person and was told no refunds would be given for the Xhalers. I was told the "terms and conditions" page was wrong and would be changed at a later date. Doesn't matter, what's written when the purchase was made is what counts. I was also told policies and procedures can be changed without notice. Does that mean it's been changed just for me??

This is not easy without saying names. I'm gonna guess, hope, and pray those of you know who I'm talking about. I mention this because I find it funny that when things are going "Nhaler's" way everything is right with the world. The moment something goes wrong a steam roller comes through and tries to roll right over you. Unfortunantly I don't go down easily.

That right there is what angers me the most. I understand problems happen. Sometimes problems occur and need to be fixed. That's reality. I have a different pv that had to go back to the vendor twice for a problem. Not a big deal. It happens. While those times are always around occasionally a product does not work to your expectations. There is no way to fix that product. It has to be returned. That is also reality.

Dea
 

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I've had my own businesses for 30+ years. It is inevitable that there will be some challenges with clients/customers and products thru the years. It's all part of doing business and staying in your integrity when issues arise.
You are right, a warranty is a warranty. We all have many choices in who we purchase from...and who we purchase from again.
 

Dea

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It's hard to have your own business. My Dad owned his own business by the time I was 12 I could run it. Not easy at all.

I find when I speak to vendors they almost always are on guard. My guess is people have a problem and call screaming. Problems happen.

No unhappy Nhaler customers? I've "HEARD" unhappy posts get deleted in the Nhaler section. I have not seen this first hand. I've only heard about it so don't quote me on that one please.

Dea
 

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No unhappy Nhaler customers? I've "HEARD" unhappy posts get deleted in the Nhaler section. I have not seen this first hand. I've only heard about it so don't quote me on that one please.

Dea



There was a thread with a video showing the Xhaler doesn't really do 5v, and it eventually got deleted without a proper rebuttal from the "inventor"... maybe he thinks you're one of the skeptics :rolleyes:
 

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thats odd ive never had 1 problem with drews service but i have never returned any items .:cool::cool:
I'd have to second this. I have placed a plethora of orders with Nhaler. The only mishap that has ever occured was receiving two small atty caps for my Xhaler. I sent a message via their Customer Feedback form. Without asking, I recieved a personal phone call less than an hour later and the correct second atty cap was sent out the next morning. I have never received anything less than top-knotch service from Nhaler and they are now my vendor of choice. I believe this is the first negative thread I have ever seen posted about them. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience.
 

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There was a thread with a video showing the Xhaler doesn't really do 5v, and it eventually got deleted...
Interesting. I started that thread and now it's gone. I didn't even notice it got deleted.


So NHaler deletes threads that don't agree with NHaler claims.

And NHaler retracts purchase agreements. The page currently says that you can return things for a refund for any reason, yet that doesn't seem to be true at all.

I've seen plenty of posts from people happy with NHaler, but I've never heard of anyone attempting to return something to NHaler. Maybe all those posts got deleted? Has anyone returned something to NHaler and gotten a refund? Speak up if you have.


It would seem that NHaler is a great company to deal with - but only as long as the transaction goes as NHaler wants it to go.
 

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Wow, Dea

I'm sorry this happened to you. If something like that happened to me it would be truly upsetting as my funds are seriously limited due to illness. As a result of that fact, i have to tell you for ME your post is very helpful. I truly appreciate you posting your experience because i will stay away from this company as a result of it - i'd rather purchase from a comapny i know i can return the product too if it doesnt work for me then risk my funds on the CHANCE i might like it - even if the chance i dont like it are small or minimal - at this point i simply cant take the chance financially no matter how tiny the percentage of failure might be.

I recognize it can take some strength to post a negative review of a company that often gets only possitive reviews, so again, i truly appreciate your putting this out there for us to add into the equation as we make our own choices to deal with this company.

If they are deleting negative posts rather then addressing them this is frankly a bad siign. I have been part of family businesses since i was about 5 or 6 years old. Its basic business knowledge that 1 unsatisfied customer, for any reason, equals at least 10 lost sales and often times many more. Similarly, 1 good sale equals about 5 potential future sales by word of mouth - people tend to talk about negative experiences twice as much as possitive experience. So this is truly a mistake in the way they are handling this situation.

Is NHaler a US company? If it is i would suggest informing them that should they fail to refund your package including the cost for having to send it out a second time due to their refusal to sign for it that you will be contacting the BBB - I would also inform them you have posted your experience here in the forums and should they refund your package including the cost of the uneeded and extra shipping you would be happy to let everyone here know that your experience and problems have been resolved to your satisfaction to limit negative impact on their businesses.

Were i you, I'd also mention to them irregardless of their being able to change policy at their whim, as all businesses are able to do, the policy at time of sale is the policy they are legally required to adhere to. Behaving the way that they are behaving will undoubtably effect their business in a truly negative way. I'd probably also mention that the fact they have misrepresented their product on top of refusing to follow their written policy, that deleting posts that prove their product is not as stated really makes it appear to people that they are not a trustworthy nor honest business which is why you chose not to post your review in their forum section. :chuckles: So that they could not delete the post!

I dunno, if i were you i certainly wouldnt give up. I'd really take action, which is of course what you are already doing, and truthfully you might have done ALL that i am suggestion already lol. but i figrued i'd throw my two cents in and tell you i do not think you are over reacting, i do not think you should give up and keep equipment that doesnt work for you. I do not think that they have treated you respectfully as a potential return customer or a customer who chooses to send others their way. Whether you liked the product personally or not, you still could suggest them as a potential resource for people you know, people who could purchase from them.

Anyhow, I am really hoping the nHaler people are reading my post because this experience you've had has certainly lost a potential buyer in me and anyone i know and might turn onto eCigs. Thats bad mojo. :shrugs:

Okay, i've rambled long enough lol!

Good luck, and please please please do let us know what the end result is, or keep us updated on your progress as it moves.

Nikki
 

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I hope to see you get your refund as it is only proper since their website states this.

I have also seen the video disclaiming the ability of the unit to produce 5 volts.

I have yet to see a buyer of the Xhaler dispute this with any video or facts.

I hope you get your refund.

I have ordered from Nhaler and always got good service and I hope you will also!
 

sachiaiko

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a supplier cant even respond to posts in they are not trying to do sales at that time? that seems odd that they couldnt post in the rest of the forum.... :shrug: I mean, sales and all that sorta jazz i get why it is limited to their area, but they should still be allowed to respond here.

most especially since it appears they do not reply to posts if they are able to just delete it and sweep the problem under the rug. You know?

You know... you might consider PMing a moderator and explaining to them your situation and that you are worried your very real issue will be deleted rather then handled effectively. :shrugs: that might work. I dunno. If i were the EFC forum i'd be concerned about supporting a company that refuses refunds after promising to refund when a problem arises. But the bottom line of it is that i am relitively new to this world and frankly very ignorant, so my imput here may not be valid or valuable - maybe it would cause more problems then it would fix.

I guess i really get irritated when people or busiensses behave selfishly and with greed in a way that has the potential to hurt some one. If this had hapened to me i'd have been stuck with a device that didnt work for me for god knows how long until i could scrounge up the funds to purchase a nother one. so i might feel more strongly then the majority of those here.

Nikki
 

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a supplier cant even respond to posts in they are not trying to do sales at that time? that seems odd that they couldnt post in the rest of the forum.... :shrug: I mean, sales and all that sorta jazz i get why it is limited to their area, but they should still be allowed to respond here.

most especially since it appears they do not reply to posts if they are able to just delete it and sweep the problem under the rug. You know?

You know... you might consider PMing a moderator and explaining to them your situation and that you are worried your very real issue will be deleted rather then handled effectively. :shrugs: that might work. I dunno. If i were the EFC forum i'd be concerned about supporting a company that refuses refunds after promising to refund when a problem arises. But the bottom line of it is that i am relitively new to this world and frankly very ignorant, so my imput here may not be valid or valuable - maybe it would cause more problems then it would fix.

I guess i really get irritated when people or busiensses behave selfishly and with greed in a way that has the potential to hurt some one. If this had hapened to me i'd have been stuck with a device that didnt work for me for god knows how long until i could scrounge up the funds to purchase a nother one. so i might feel more strongly then the majority of those here.

Nikki
They can do it,even if they couldn't this is an exepcion, hope the admin see this, and hope some body PMs this link this to nhaler.
 

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The formula of a dissatisfied customer telling 10, for you as of this post, is now over 300 as that is how many have read this thread.
I acknowledge you for bringing this to this public forum after trying to resolve it with NHaler.
Are you feeling supported now?
NHaler can PM you even they can't or don't choose to reply in this forum thread. Please let us know.
Vape On!!!!
 

angjen0816

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This the first I have EVER heard of a bad experience with Nhaler. They have the most top notch customer service experience I have seen. If you check the threads in the Nhaler forum on here, the xhaler has been used at 5 volts. i know this, as i have been researching it extensively. Instead of putting them on blast, why hasn't the OP contacted Drew directly. Nikki, please don't go off one bad review. Esp not when Drew could make things right and Hondo, please don't use heresy when a companys repuation is at stake. I don't work for or represent Nhaler, i am a proud customer, with 8 orders under my belt and more to come.
 
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