Nic Base Storage: Freezer vs. Room Temp Experiment
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Yeah I got some of their bad nic as well. They replaced it and it was better but still not my fav.
I personally love Wizardlabs nic. That’s all I’ve ever vaped and still working on some I bought in 2013. They say on their website it can have a yellowish tint. I have found in large amounts, like looking down into a liter bottle, all nic looks like it has a yellow tint. None have ever looked like water to me. But when I pour it into a smaller glass it’s clear. But I have never had bad WL nic. They are typically consistent.
Nude nicotine was comparable to WL.
Yes! I have and I will probably buy more so my stash stays nice and varied. IIRC that’s the only nic I’ve ordered lately that I haven’t complained about (I may have posted a pic, I don’t recall). I’m sure I’ll buy more from them but I don’t want my nic eggs in too few of baskets which is why I don’t just buy from 1 company. Especially given the look and smell of the NN I that I opened recently; that’s a company everyone raves about. Yeah, I’m nic cursed for sure!
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What about the odor (or lack thereof)?
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Just a slight nic smell with NN and WL but nothing bad at all. It didn’t blow my hair back and make my eyebrows curl and my eyes water like Nic River.
That stuff was awful!
Just a slight nic smell with NN and WL but nothing bad at all. It didn’t blow my hair back and make my eyebrows curl and my eyes water like Nic River.
No kidding. I’ll never forget that foul smell
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I use Mainly Unflavored. In fact, I have Never put a Flavored e-Liquid into a Squonk Bottle. So subtle taste differences or hints of Off-ness are easily detected.
I've tried a LOT of Nicotine Bases. CNT is the Gold Standard to Me.
BTW - Here is a Ole Cajun trick to remove curses.
Take whatever you are being Cursed by and pass it 3 Times around your back, Left hand to Right hand. In your case, Nicotine Base. So passing a Bottle of Nicotine Base 3 Times behind your back (remember - Left hand to Right hand) should do the trick.
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120 ml at heartland is $13.49. Comes out cheaper per ml. Shipping is also cheaper at heartland.
CNT (Contraf-Nicotex-Tobacco) Nicotine - 100mg (120ml)
Thanks! Certainly couldn’t hurt to try. Any words I should chant while I’m at it for maximum effectiveness? [emoji23]
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I still have forgiven Heartland Vapes for the Age Verification Fiasco that I went thru with them.
Nah... chanting Doesn't help. Just make sure it is a Left to Right hand pass, 3 Times, and you should be Good to Go.
Never heard of it. Can you give me the gist of what happened?
It’s sure been nice talking to you guys again. There’s so much knowledge here, the quality of which, IMO cannot be found anywhere else.
Happy new year to all! 2020 is already beginning to feel like it’s going to be a very long year. I’m stocking up while I can still afford to. I want double of what I actually need to feel secure
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I had done Many Orders with Heartland Vapes for Nicotine Base and Flavorings. And Misc stuff. Right before the Big 2016 Crunch, I decided to pick up another Liter of Nicotine Base as well as some VG I was running Low on.
The Order went thru as always. Nothing out of the ordinary. But after a week, I Didn't get a Shipping notice.
So I e-Mailed them to find out what was going on. No Reply for 2 Days.
So I e-Mailed them again. No Reply again.
So I called them. And they told me that they had a New Policy for Age Verification.
The CSR said she was Sorry, but the Age Verification software couldn't verify that I was 18.
I asked if she could see the CC (American Express) info that I had on file with Heartland Vapes? She said she could. And then I asked if she could see the Last 4 orders I had done for Nicotine Base, and how they were All done with the Same Credit Card? She said she saw that also.
Then I asked if she could she how long I had been a AE Card Holder? The was this Huge Pause and she said in a somewhat Meek voice... 27 Years.
She then said she was Sorry again, but the Software wouldn't let her complete the Order unless I sent a Copy of my Drivers License. I said I wasn't comfortable giving someone a Copy of my DL, so just Cancel the Order. Because I didn't really care about the Nicotine base, but I really needed the VG.
She said the Entire order didn't need to be Cancelled, and that I could just Cancel the Nicotine Base, and she would ship the VG (and the few other misc items) today. I said that would be Fine. Just send me a confirmation of the order change.
Needless to say, I never got a Confirmation of the change to the order. Or a reply to the Next e-Mail I sent. So I was back on the Phone to a Not very nice CSR who told me that all she was doing all day was answering Calls from Ticked Off people because their Age Couldn't be Verified by their software. And she Didn't know why my VG hadn't shipped?
I told here that was just terrible. So Cancel my ENTIRE Order and have a Great Day.
And that was the Last Time I ordered anything from Heartland Vapes.
That's too bad. I think back in the day when Age Verification was new to vape, things were rocky. They use AgeChecker.net now and for me it's a smooth process. Most people seem to use AgeChecker these days. Never had to supply any documentation or anything.
But HV always sends my shipments with signature required. This started this year. I can't find anybody else that orders from them that has to sign for their deliveries from HV. they ignored my email when I asked why.
But I can't complain much. I have always gotten what I ordered. Unless I have the money to buy more nic soon, I won't be needing them. Heck, I'm so well stocked up that I won't be needing any other company for anything ever again lol
Well, except for battery, cotton and wire suppliers.
Something made "chemically" that can be made in nature (if it is manufactured correctly) would have the exact same properties as the natural version, as far as I can tell (and the natural version was USP.)
I don't understand people. There are still people who will pay more for the premium of "natural flavors."
If you ever read about or go to a flavoring lab, you will understand that what base ingredients are used has LITTLE to do with the final product. In some cases, starting with something "artificial" might even be healthier. But people think "natural" flavors are so much better, so there can be a premium for them.
In this case, I would not pay a premium for "artificial" nicotine, nor would I expect it to be very different than natural nicotine. It's just a different manufacturing process, I would assume.
I guess my point is: the end product is what matters, not whatever process something "goes through" to "be" what it "is."
In this case, I would be shocked to find any differences whatsoever. If it meets acceptable purity standards it will be just like any other nicotine.
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I don't understand people. There are still people who will pay more for the premium of "natural flavors."
If you ever read about or go to a flavoring lab, you will understand that what base ingredients are used has LITTLE to do with the final product. In some cases, starting with something "artificial" might even be healthier. But people think "natural" flavors are so much better, so there can be a premium for them.
In this case, I would not pay a premium for "artificial" nicotine, nor would I expect it to be very different than natural nicotine. It's just a different manufacturing process, I would assume.
I guess my point is: the end product is what matters, not whatever process something "goes through" to "be" what it "is."
In this case, I would be shocked to find any differences whatsoever. If it meets acceptable purity standards it will be just like any other nicotine.
Anna
Not necessarily. Natural nicotine is almost exclusively (over 99%) the (S)-isomer, whereas synthetic processes tend to produce equal amounts of (S)- and (R)-isomers. Biological processes will happy produce one isomer and not the other, but this is much more difficult to do with synthetic processes. In addition, isomers are very difficult to separate; they have the same molecular weight, and the same chemical reactions, except in biological systems, where the (R)-isomer is thought to be half or less as potent as the (S)-isomer.
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