Nic Base Storage: Freezer vs. Room Temp Experiment

[Mowgli]

My "freezered" 2014 nic that I finished this spring was as good as new.
How many times per day to you open your freezer? Your refrigerator?
I open my chest freezer once a month at most, usually much less.

That was August 2019.

My 5.5 Year old nicotine is exactly the same as the day I received it. Store it correctly and it should last indefinitely. This is even the bottom of this 240ml. I've been replenishing my "using" 60ml refrigerated bottle from this for months. It's been in the fridge/freezer door about a half year. Before that it was in the subzero chest freezer since the day I got it.
**Correction** I didn't get the chest freezer until 2017.

Here's an updated picture I just took.
Note yesterday's date on my ejuice bottle far left and the new-ish Asgard Mini.

 

[Katya]

Here's an updated picture I just took.

I like your graduated cylinder! I want one!

 

[Mowgli]

I like your graduated cylinder! I want one!

Thanks.
It's cool but glass is hydroscopic (attracts liquid) while plastic is hydrophobic (repels liquid).
Plastic pours faster and more completely.
I replaced my shiny new glassware with plastic cylinders within a few weeks of starting DIY.

It sure looks cool on the bookshelf though. I park my small glass funnel in this one.

 

[Katya]

Thanks.
It's cool but glass is hydroscopic (attracts liquid) while plastic is hydrophobic (repels liquid).
Plastic pours faster and more completely.
I replaced my shiny new glassware with plastic cylinders within a few weeks of starting DIY.

It sure looks cool on the bookshelf though. I park my small glass funnel in this one.

You just broke my heart. I only have those cheapo plastic cylinders and beakers and always thought that borosilicate glass would be so much more luxurious.

 

[Katya]

My 5.5 Year old nicotine is exactly the same as the day I received it.

One more question, Mowgli, if I may. How was that NN nic packaged when you first bought it? Armor V1, V2, or just a regular open bottle?

BTW, I'm working through my last V2 bottle of NN 100% VG from 2016 and it looks exactly like yours. Stored in my regular kitchen freezer.

 

[Mowgli]

One more question, Mowgli, if I may. How was that NN nic packaged when you first bought it? Armor V1, V2, or just a regular open bottle?

BTW, I'm working through my last V2 bottle of NN 100% VG from 2016 and it looks exactly like yours. Stored in my regular kitchen freezer.

Basic 1 or 1/2 liter plastic jug. Maybe brown plastic bottle but definitely not "Armor".

 

[Bronze]

I thought I had a 17 year supply of nic at the bottom of my chest freezer. Another look and it's more like 23 years. If I live that long I surmise I will be worrying about other things far more than what my remaining nic supply is.

 

[Katya]

I thought I had a 17 year supply of nic at the bottom of my chest freezer. Another look and it's more like 23 years. If I live that long I surmise I will be worrying about other things far more than what my remaining nic supply is.

Some of you guys and gals will have to update your wills.

 

[newyork13]

Basic 1 or 1/2 liter plastic jug. Maybe brown plastic bottle but definitely not "Armor".

Let me get this straight: the good looking nic you've had in the freezer for 5.5yrs was in plastic?
I've been stocking up, for obvious reasons, and half of what I bought is in plastic in the freezer. If I don't need to repackage it into glass, then I don't want to bother. And, 5.5 yrs is a long time.

 

[Territoo]

Let me get this straight: the good looking nic you've had in the freezer for 5.5yrs was in plastic?
I've been stocking up, for obvious reasons, and half of what I bought is in plastic in the freezer. If I don't need to repackage it into glass, then I don't want to bother. And, 5.5 yrs is a long time.

You can't see what plastic chemicals have leached into the nicotine over 5.5 years. If I had put that nic in the plastic bottles my freezer and forgotten about it for 5.5 years, I would transfer it to glass and still use it. But it's better to put it in glass in the beginning.

 

[Rossum]

Not all. I have 0.5oz, 1oz and 2oz bottles that all take 18mm (18/400 caps)

Yep. I was a bit annoyed when a batch of 4-oz (120 ml) bottles I got had smaller necks and caps than all the others I already had. They came with their own polycone caps so it isn't really a problem for storage, but since the planned use for them was for my ready-to-vape unflavored base, it means I can't just take off the regular cap and put on one the dropper-top caps that I have.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Yep. I was a bit annoyed when a batch of 4-oz (120 ml) bottles I got had smaller necks and caps than all the others I already had. They came with their own polycone caps so it isn't really a problem for storage, but since the planned use for them was for my ready-to-vape unflavored base, it means I can't just take off the regular cap and put on one the dropper-top caps that I have.

Well I just busted out my calipers and checked the 0.5 oz bottles that take the 18mm/400 caps. The mouth with threads measures 17.5mm, so 18mm.

Then I checked my 4oz bottles that take the 24mm/400 caps and they measure 23.5mm, so 24mm.

So I guess that's one way to check in the future before you order caps. But the threading still might be different. However it may be a better gamble if you at least know the width of the mouth with threads.

But I dunno.

 

[Katya]

Yep. I was a bit annoyed when a batch of 4-oz (120 ml) bottles I got had smaller necks and caps than all the others I already had. They came with their own polycone caps so it isn't really a problem for storage, but since the planned use for them was for my ready-to-vape unflavored base, it means I can't just take off the regular cap and put on one the dropper-top caps that I have.

I'm having the same problem. I have tons of bottles, but wanted to get more caps. As it turns out, my amber Boston 4 oz bottles take 22-400 caps, the clear 4 oz ones--24-400.

 

[Mowgli]

Let me get this straight: the good looking nic you've had in the freezer for 5.5yrs was in plastic?
I've been stocking up, for obvious reasons, and half of what I bought is in plastic in the freezer. If I don't need to repackage it into glass, then I don't want to bother. And, 5.5 yrs is a long time.

Katya asked me:

One more question, Mowgli, if I may. How was that NN nic packaged when you first bought it? Armor V1, V2, ...

It's like a game of Chinese whispers around here

Chinese whispers - Wikipedia

Like I said:

...Before that it was in the subzero chest freezer since the day I got it.
**Correction** I didn't get the chest freezer until 2017.

My nicotine always gets decanted into glass the day I get it.

Please quote what I said that would lead anyone to believe I ever store nicotine in plastic.

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[Mowgli]

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[newyork13]

too much trouble to go back to explain why one might draw that conclusion. words are what they are.
you decant into glass and I believe you.

 

[Katya]

@Rossum What is that tape that you used in the picture below? I think NN uses the same kind. I bought some CNT nicotine and rebottled it already, but I would like to add some tape--just in case.

 

[zoiDman]

?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scot...5-Electrical-Tape-White-10828-DL-2W/304653652

 

[Katya]

?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scot...5-Electrical-Tape-White-10828-DL-2W/304653652

Thanks, Z!

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks, Z!

No problem Kat.

Me, I would go with this...

https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scot...5-Electrical-Tape-Yellow-10844-DL-5/304653476

Shocking Yellow just seems more appropriate for 100mg/ml Nicotine Base.

But White Tape can tell you what Wire does what. So it is Not a bad idea to have a Roll on hand if you are into things like that.