Just got a new batch of chemnovatic in... It's amazing in that it pulls of no pepper/spicy taste at 6mg, though it instead has an to me slight bitter alkaline off-taste to it. It's very sudel and with flavoring I'd guess it wouldn't come through and just be seen as crazy clean, but unflavored I detect something strange. Still, i'm amazed how all spicyness is void, but just replaced with some strange alkaline taste. Very low TH too.
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I'm not sure what you are asking @puffon; cost, mfg., or ???
If you are asking about cost; currently a liter is running $44.99.
As to who is manufacturing it; I don't know. They do NOT state that it is U.S. made the way they do with their "premium" so it could (likely?) be foriegn/import. I could find nothing in the MSDS, or GCC, they have posted on their website (linked above). I don't know if they are buying overseas and simply repackaging, or buying pure concentrate (1,000mg/mL) and diluting and repackaging, or doing something else altogether.
I do have 2 liters of it and find it to be the smoothest/most transparent of the three nic bases I have tried (Wizard Labs, RTS, and Heartland (non-premium)). I am NOT a nic connoiseur, so don't give my opinion much weight, but I have been quite happy with Heartland's offering. I think it is worth trying at least a sample size if you are shopping.
I'm not sure what you are asking @puffon; cost, mfg., or ???
If you are asking about cost; currently a liter is running $44.99.
As to who is manufacturing it; I don't know. They do NOT state that it is U.S. made the way they do with their "premium" so it could (likely?) be foriegn/import. I could find nothing in the MSDS, or GCC, they have posted on their website (linked above). I don't know if they are buying overseas and simply repackaging, or buying pure concentrate (1,000mg/mL) and diluting and repackaging, or doing something else altogether.
I do have 2 liters of it and find it to be the smoothest/most transparent of the three nic bases I have tried (Wizard Labs, RTS, and Heartland (non-premium)). I am NOT a nic connoiseur, so don't give my opinion much weight, but I have been quite happy with Heartland's offering. I think it is worth trying at least a sample size if you are shopping.
For $44.99 i may try that one , especially if it's clean .
Was wondering about the manufacturer.I'm not sure what you are asking @puffon; cost, mfg., or ???
If you are asking about cost; currently a liter is running $44.99.
As to who is manufacturing it; I don't know. They do NOT state that it is U.S. made the way they do with their "premium" so it could (likely?) be foriegn/import. I could find nothing in the MSDS, or GCC, they have posted on their website (linked above). I don't know if they are buying overseas and simply repackaging, or buying pure concentrate (1,000mg/mL) and diluting and repackaging, or doing something else altogether.
I do have 2 liters of it and find it to be the smoothest/most transparent of the three nic bases I have tried (Wizard Labs, RTS, and Heartland (non-premium)). I am NOT a nic connoiseur, so don't give my opinion much weight, but I have been quite happy with Heartland's offering. I think it is worth trying at least a sample size if you are shopping.
I also have a couple liters I bought last year, that I think are good also.
It is the cleanest I have tried. But, as I said, I have abused my taste buds for so long; I doubt I am the best judge. I have also not tried any of the high dollar premium ones so I can't offer any comparison. I very well may be the guy drinking Ripple who is thinking he has a "fine vintage."
Heartlands is from a singapore source that is all that has been disclosed from the vendor.
Btw, the chemnovatic off-taste to me isn't alkaline, but something reminiscent of shoepolish. Also maybe some kind off dark fermented tobacco, though not really tobacco, but more of the dark fermented notes, but hard to explain. It ruins it for me at even 3mg. Maybe PG hides it somewhat I dunno, as never use PG, and find it strange others don't report this. I have bought additionally from molinshop, a partner of chemnovatic which sells nicbases blended by chemnovatic themselves and labelled chemnovatic brand on bottle and the exact same is in that, so it's not a matter of specific vendor error. The same taste is in my chemnovatic from over 6 months ago. The exact same to the T... They must clean the spicy/pepper taste off with something that leaves this note I guess.
Btw, the chemnovatic off-taste to me isn't alkaline, but something reminiscent of shoepolish. Also maybe some kind off dark fermented tobacco, though not really tobacco, but more of the dark fermented notes, but hard to explain. It ruins it for me at even 3mg. Maybe PG hides it somewhat I dunno, as never use PG, and find it strange others don't report this. I have bought additionally from molinshop, a partner of chemnovatic which sells nicbases blended by chemnovatic themselves and labelled chemnovatic brand on bottle and the exact same is in that, so it's not a matter of specific vendor error. The same taste is in my chemnovatic from over 6 months ago. The exact same to the T... They must clean the spicy/pepper taste off with something that leaves this note I guess.
No idea. I've been vaping their nic since last fall sometime and it compares well with my Nude Nicotine.
However, I do flavored (fruit and dessert) @ 10% and only vape 75-90 ml a week, so I may be missing the finer points on nicotine.
For me, I want it to be kinda tasteless and accurate (100mg should be 100mg). HV has filled the bill for me at way less cost than others.
Heartlands posts COAs for there nic, but the COA for both the singapore and polish nic, is a COA for alchem indian nic I can tell... Also from a batch made in 2014, so obviously outdated, and they used alchem in the past I can see from batchnumber-coding on bottle from old-pic, so it must've been from then, though nice if they could update them or simply remove...
Btw, I was gonna order from NN and risk getting it destroyed because illegal to import here, and pay a cow in shipping and custom fees, as i'm so curious about if it really IS as clean as it's reputation, unflavored, and how it stands up to the others, but I cannot even select Denmark as shipping options unfortunetly Then, I decided the same for heartlands regular, just for my curiosities sake, as have pretty much no more to test in EU, but same story there... God how I hate this crap...
Btw, I was gonna order from NN and risk getting it destroyed because illegal to import here, and pay a cow in shipping and custom fees, as i'm so curious about if it really IS as clean as it's reputation, unflavored, and how it stands up to the others, but I cannot even select Denmark as shipping options unfortunetly
Then, I decided the same for heartlands regular, just for my curiosities sake, as have pretty much no more to test in EU, but same story there... God how I hate this crap...
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Btw, I was gonna order from NN and risk getting it destroyed because illegal to import here, and pay a cow in shipping and custom fees, as i'm so curious about if it really IS as clean as it's reputation, unflavored, and how it stands up to the others, but I cannot even select Denmark as shipping options unfortunetly
Well, I feel for you. I used to have 'illicit' items send to me in different place I've lived. China, for example, absolutely did not have nor allow Marlboro cigarettes when I lived there. They opened each and every package to dangerous foreigners too. Yet, my 'Western Commemorative Collection' got through month after month, year in, year out. That was from friends of mine though and not a company.
I wonder how long Chinese sellers are going to get away with the packages from Mr Chen containing electronic gadgets?
Just wanted to add that ShowerHead offered to help me out with this, which is a really kind offer and though I humbly declined the offer as it was just a very small tester and not important, then I am very gratefull for getting such offered! This is truly a great community with good hearded kind helpfull people!
This is truly a great community with good hearded kind helpfull people!
Just got my heartland premium nic. Excellent product. Eyeballed a 10ml sample that is between 15-20mg. Yeah I know I should have been precise but I was in a hurry. Very clean taste, ever so slight hints of tobacco. Can't really make a statement on throat hit until I mix down a precise 10mg sample.
At 82 a liter a quality product. A gallon at $250 seems like a steal.Great for someone stalking up late to the game. It is almost as clean as nude or Carolina. But pricing is favorable. Shipping was free and pretty typical for ups. Finally, totally clear and over a liter. Filled 4 250's and still have perhaps 50mls left in the jug.
At 82 a liter a quality product. A gallon at $250 seems like a steal.Great for someone stalking up late to the game. It is almost as clean as nude or Carolina. But pricing is favorable. Shipping was free and pretty typical for ups. Finally, totally clear and over a liter. Filled 4 250's and still have perhaps 50mls left in the jug.
AmeriNic @ WL now? Roly (and others) believed nic base made in the USA would be cost prohibitive. Like $2000 per liter? WL is selling it for a few bucks more than their regular...
Strange also that rts used to claim nobody else but themselves produced it. The place is right up the road from rts...
Strange also that rts used to claim nobody else but themselves produced it. The place is right up the road from rts...
have you or anyone else tried amerinic from WL? if so what is your opinion on it? is it better or worse than WL nicotine? whats the pros and cons? i have only used WL nicotine but am open to try new things, all opinions are welcomed. much appreciated!
I doubt WL would be carrying it if it was poor. Take one for the team ?
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