Well, thanks. I work hard to earn this level of distain. Rather be hated than ignored, buddy.
Nicotine is a killer
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Well, thanks. I work hard to earn this level of distain. Rather be hated than ignored, buddy.
That's your lame excuse for not checking the back of the thread before wading through the other 23 pages?
Behold the Bacon Explosion:
...uncased Italian sausage spread over (and then rolled-up in) a lattice of thick cut bacon. Apply some barbecue rub, throw it in the oven, and prepare for the most delicious heart attack you've ever experienced.
OMG ... a meat eaters dream come true! The Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas came to mind
And yes, it's for real.
Vaping just might give me a heart attack actually. I spent $200.00 on a Kayfun 4 and the damn base screw comes loose. That makes my blood boil.
It started page one, then jumped to the back to see how everything ended up, then I just had to go 2-24...gotta celebrate the journey, yanno?That's your lame excuse for not checking the back of the thread before wading through the other 23 pages?
Alright I have gone through all the post. Yes I am that bored. lol. Anyways I think I understand where all your anger and hatred comes from. Yes there are a lot of elitist out there. They tend to be the cloud chasers spending lots of money and trying to be cool. They look down on others not using the best. I have actually found on here their are less of them then on a lot of other forums. Most of the people I have met here have been very helpful and I have learned a lot. I have never felt pressured though to move on to newer things though.
My setup is an Itaste VV with a Kanger Aerotank mini. Let me say this. I started on the Vuse. I even tried Greensmoke though Vuse was far superior to it. I was struggling to get off analogs when I was lucky enough to have someone on here send me my current setup. Since I got it I only had 1 analog and that was 2 weeks later. I hated it. I haven't had an analog since September. Now I recently got a stingray as a late christmas present. I haven't had a chance to try it since I am waiting to buy me some organic cotton and a charger. Now despite it being a very good thing, I don't intend on it being my mains setup. More of an home vape thing for when I feel I need that extra dose of nicotine. Like when I am really stressed and stuff. I was excited when I got this and posted about it on here. I am still learning how to make a wick for it and already have a good coil on it thanks to the guy who gave it to me. So what do you think my next setup I plan on getting at tax check is? The new atlantis? Some fancier mech? Nope. I am getting an MVP 20w with an Aspire Nautilus. While I like my current setup I do need a backup setup. Though that likely will become my new main setup. Now there is nothing wrong with an Ego. I have tried them with that tank you got. I'll be honest, I do think they kinda suck. More so for the tanks. But hey that's what I think. If someone else wants to use one though I won't knock it. It's still better then smoking analogs. I am far from an elitist. When someone has a question I try to answer it to the best of my ability. I admit I don't know near as much as many of the people here. I just do what I can to help. The best way to deal with the elitist is just to ignore them.
As for nicotine itself. I started smoking originally when I was 16. I smoked for 14 years. I started because I was stressed out a lot. I also had a lot of anger issues. Analogs helped me to deal with it better and I became a calmer more laid back person. To this day it is the same thing. I continue to vape nic because the nicotine helps me to remain calm and more mellow. Could I eventually ween myself off it. I have no doubts I could. But I have no desire to do so. When I wake up in the morning I can go hours without actually vaping. But then I find myself falling back to my older more irritable self. So what do I do? I start vaping. I also sometimes just vape out of boredom like I was doing as I was reading the post on here. Can nicotine be dangerous? Of course. Is it addictive? At this point it seems to be more of a mental thing. My body doesn't crave it like it did before. When I smoked, i craved it a lot. I became extremely irritable when I was without my analogs. The worse part of getting off them for me was the first month. It was hell. I had to up my nic some just to help deal with it. Looking back now I see the nic itself just helped to ease those cravings some caused by those other chemicals. After all at 36 mg I was vaping a lot more nic then I likely was with analogs. I was a half a pack a day smoker. Sometimes more when really stressed. Often times I would smoke 1 cig an hour. More if I didnt control myself. Especially when drinking. If I kept myself busy like I tried to do it came down to about a half a pack. Now my body doesn't really crave the nicotine. For me it is more like I like that feeling I am at, the mellow i am at when I vape the nicotine. I want to stay at that feeling. It is the same sort of mental addiction people who smoke the not so bad other stuff. (Yes mods I did the editing there for you. lol,) Those people get hooked on that feeling and think in their head they have to keep at that. I have smoked plenty of the other stuff in my younger days and I never got hooked. Never got that feeling that i had to be at that level. But I do understand where those people are coming from now because that is how I am with my nicotine now. But this mental side of it is still better then psychically addictive. Simply because it means if there ever comes a day where I decide I want to give up nicotine I will be able to do so. Perhaps the reason your having a hard time yourself with 0 nic is because like me you like that feeling your at when you got the nic in you and don't want to give it up. Perhaps also you actually have some anger issues yourself and the nicotine helps you to deal with that as well. In which case I think your better off vaping the nicotine. Some of us do need to medicate to deal with some stuff. Better this then some of them pharmaceutical drugs out there which far worse side effects. A good example of that is those with depression. Honestly I'd rather see them vape or even smoke an analog then take anti-depressants. Especially the young ones. Hell one of the risk most of them have is a chance of increased suicidal behavior. Seems to me those could kill you a lot faster then even analogs could. Of course no one wants to give those drugs the blame in that case. They just say He/she was so depressed. He/She just couldn't take it anymore. When the drugs possibly were to blame. Other medications out there have a crap ton of side effects too.
Ok now I am just droning on. But listen man if you want some vapors to talk to who aren't going to judge, find ya some and become friends. You can message me if you want. I love making new vapor friends. I get excited anytime I run into someone with some sort of vape. Even when it is an ego. Yeah I do like showing off some of my stuff. I don't do it to brag. I do it cause I just like to share my excitement. Vaping has really changed my life. I honestly wish I had done this much sooner.
My setup is an Itaste VV with a Kanger Aerotank mini. Let me say this. I started on the Vuse. I even tried Greensmoke though Vuse was far superior to it. I was struggling to get off analogs when I was lucky enough to have someone on here send me my current setup. Since I got it I only had 1 analog and that was 2 weeks later. I hated it. I haven't had an analog since September. Now I recently got a stingray as a late christmas present. I haven't had a chance to try it since I am waiting to buy me some organic cotton and a charger. Now despite it being a very good thing, I don't intend on it being my mains setup. More of an home vape thing for when I feel I need that extra dose of nicotine. Like when I am really stressed and stuff. I was excited when I got this and posted about it on here. I am still learning how to make a wick for it and already have a good coil on it thanks to the guy who gave it to me. So what do you think my next setup I plan on getting at tax check is? The new atlantis? Some fancier mech? Nope. I am getting an MVP 20w with an Aspire Nautilus. While I like my current setup I do need a backup setup. Though that likely will become my new main setup. Now there is nothing wrong with an Ego. I have tried them with that tank you got. I'll be honest, I do think they kinda suck. More so for the tanks. But hey that's what I think. If someone else wants to use one though I won't knock it. It's still better then smoking analogs. I am far from an elitist. When someone has a question I try to answer it to the best of my ability. I admit I don't know near as much as many of the people here. I just do what I can to help. The best way to deal with the elitist is just to ignore them.
As for nicotine itself. I started smoking originally when I was 16. I smoked for 14 years. I started because I was stressed out a lot. I also had a lot of anger issues. Analogs helped me to deal with it better and I became a calmer more laid back person. To this day it is the same thing. I continue to vape nic because the nicotine helps me to remain calm and more mellow. Could I eventually ween myself off it. I have no doubts I could. But I have no desire to do so. When I wake up in the morning I can go hours without actually vaping. But then I find myself falling back to my older more irritable self. So what do I do? I start vaping. I also sometimes just vape out of boredom like I was doing as I was reading the post on here. Can nicotine be dangerous? Of course. Is it addictive? At this point it seems to be more of a mental thing. My body doesn't crave it like it did before. When I smoked, i craved it a lot. I became extremely irritable when I was without my analogs. The worse part of getting off them for me was the first month. It was hell. I had to up my nic some just to help deal with it. Looking back now I see the nic itself just helped to ease those cravings some caused by those other chemicals. After all at 36 mg I was vaping a lot more nic then I likely was with analogs. I was a half a pack a day smoker. Sometimes more when really stressed. Often times I would smoke 1 cig an hour. More if I didnt control myself. Especially when drinking. If I kept myself busy like I tried to do it came down to about a half a pack. Now my body doesn't really crave the nicotine. For me it is more like I like that feeling I am at, the mellow i am at when I vape the nicotine. I want to stay at that feeling. It is the same sort of mental addiction people who smoke the not so bad other stuff. (Yes mods I did the editing there for you. lol,) Those people get hooked on that feeling and think in their head they have to keep at that. I have smoked plenty of the other stuff in my younger days and I never got hooked. Never got that feeling that i had to be at that level. But I do understand where those people are coming from now because that is how I am with my nicotine now. But this mental side of it is still better then psychically addictive. Simply because it means if there ever comes a day where I decide I want to give up nicotine I will be able to do so. Perhaps the reason your having a hard time yourself with 0 nic is because like me you like that feeling your at when you got the nic in you and don't want to give it up. Perhaps also you actually have some anger issues yourself and the nicotine helps you to deal with that as well. In which case I think your better off vaping the nicotine. Some of us do need to medicate to deal with some stuff. Better this then some of them pharmaceutical drugs out there which far worse side effects. A good example of that is those with depression. Honestly I'd rather see them vape or even smoke an analog then take anti-depressants. Especially the young ones. Hell one of the risk most of them have is a chance of increased suicidal behavior. Seems to me those could kill you a lot faster then even analogs could. Of course no one wants to give those drugs the blame in that case. They just say He/she was so depressed. He/She just couldn't take it anymore. When the drugs possibly were to blame. Other medications out there have a crap ton of side effects too.
Ok now I am just droning on. But listen man if you want some vapors to talk to who aren't going to judge, find ya some and become friends. You can message me if you want. I love making new vapor friends. I get excited anytime I run into someone with some sort of vape. Even when it is an ego. Yeah I do like showing off some of my stuff. I don't do it to brag. I do it cause I just like to share my excitement. Vaping has really changed my life. I honestly wish I had done this much sooner.
I actually just bought a vuse today. Rather impressed with the thing. If the cart empty light is anywhere accurate, it'll make a cool cigalike.
You, Sir, win all the food listed in this thread, and the booze, and my respect. Excellent post. It really, really is. Not sit down and have a few stiff drinks
and join in a few songs before you read what was posted after you started writing.Seriously, very nice post. He got us all.
ETA Usually when someone is this upset, they really are upset. Don't be put off by this thread.
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Up late for me. I tend to be a night person if I have the choice.
I'm not angry anymore. At least for now. Not sure if I ever really was. But I WAS bored. I'm not that anymore, either.
It really does and it works on me every single bloody time.
You're up so late I always think you're west coast.
And now I need to go to bed. It's been fun.
Feel free to post the links of the studies of vaping, and how it is utterly harmless. It'd have to be an unbiased study....which may throw a wrench in the works....but everyone on ECF is a GOD, right? Not a problem for you, boys. Throw an animated GIF in, too. Show 'em how interwebz savvy y'all are....
Methinks I have been messing around with two mods in my thread. And neither have banned me. LOL interesting. Never started a 20+ page whopper. Sweet
OMG ... a meat eaters dream come true! The Heart Attack Grill in Las Vegas came to mind
And yes, it's for real.
Didn't somebody actually drop dead from a heart attack there last year?
Yeah I wouldn't put it up there with an ego or anything else up at our level. But for a cigalike it is quite good. I loved their menthol. After vaping their menthol I had a hard time going back to the tobacco flavored. lol. Also unlike other cigalikes it isn't outrageously expensive. Could it be cheaper? Yeah. But that is still dang good for something made by BT. My only complaint about them was the carto doesn't always like to sit very well on the battery forcing you to hold it by the battery rather then the carto. But it was thanks to the Vuse I felt like I could actually quit analogs and move over to vapes. I tried a mark one a year before and I hated it with a passion. lol. Also the last vape on it when you run out of juice does actually hit about as well as the early vapes on it. If it wasn't for the light that blinks I wouldn't have been able to to even tell that it was low on juice. Also the charge on it I found to last me at least 24 hours. That is pretty good for a cigalike.
To FlamingoTutu,
Thank you very much for your kind words. I was just posting what was on my mind. I tend to be rather blunt as well. I have been told in the past that I lack tact though. lol
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