Nicotine reduction timeline question

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good question. when i started i was on 24mg with no intention of lowering my levels. but as my vaping style changed my nic levels had to lower...lol you cant sub ohm 24mg...well i cant. but i was able to lower to 6mg and even if im not sub-vaping i dont need all that nic , its nice the vape is smoother. i also have been vaping for close to 3 years now. still not gonna quit.
 

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After 16 years of smoking, i started vaping 6 months ago with 12mg nic.

2 months ago, i decided to start a personal project codenamed: "Drop the nic" ;)

I've been vaping 6mg since, now i got my first batch of 3mg in. And as soon as i finish my 6mg of juice, i'll start vaping 3mg.

To switch between 12mg and 6mg was hard for 2 to 3 days. I do have the luck that i work in a office and only have a certain amount of smoking... ahum.. vaping breaks a day. Which helped for cutting down my nic intake and reduce the amount of liquid consumption.

I think from 6mg to 3mg should be easier, because it's only 3mg of difference.

I have to add, i do create some medium/biggish clouds (not extreme, compared to the real cloud chasers) and i think i vape between 3 to 5mg a day, depending on which tank i use.
 
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I started out at 24, and really had no plan to reduce my nicotine level. However, after a few months (3 or 4 IIRC?), I started buying some 18mg e-liquids just to throw into rotation to see how it would go. I did that a few times a year, now I buy 0 to 3 for dripping/higher power setups and 6 for "regular" vaping.

I am of the opinion that vaping helps you cut back more than the Stinkies ever will because when a person starts a cigarette they finish it because lighting a pre smoked cig never tastes right but in vaping they vape till the craving is satisfied. So a Vaper actually consumed less nic.
 
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Smoked for 36 years. 2 PAD for at least the last 10. Light to Ultra Light cigs. Started vaping in in December of 2013. It took me less than a week of dual use to put down the smokes using mostly 18 and some 24. About 3 weeks later, I bought some 12. I found that rather unsatisfying. So I mixed the 12 with some 18 I had left to make 15 and that's where I've been ever since.

When it comes to health risks, I would rather cut the amount of flavor in my juice than nic. The physiological effects of nicotine are rather well understood, and like red wine, a moderate amount of it might actually be beneficial. The effects of inhaling the dozens to hundreds of different compounds that make up the flavorings in our vapes have not been studied much at all, and there's a good body of evidence that at least a few of them (diketones) carry a substantial risk. Yes, I've tried vaping straight unflavored, but I strongly prefer at least some flavor, so for the past year I've been cutting my store bough juices 50/50 with unflavored, and my DIY mixes use very little flavoring.

The same rationale makes think that it's preferable to tootle-puff 5 ml a day of 15mg juice than to sub-ohm direct lung hit 25 ml a day of 3mg juice. But in the end, the most important thing is to vape however and whatever it takes to keep YOU off the combustibles, and what that takes varies from person to person.
 

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Smoked for 36 years. 2 PAD for at least the last 10. Light to Ultra Light cigs. Started vaping in in December of 2013. It took me less than a week of dual use to put down the smokes using mostly 18 and some 24. About 3 weeks later, I bought some 12. I found that rather unsatisfying. So I mixed the 12 with some 18 I had left to make 15 and that's where I've been ever since.

When it comes to health risks, I would rather cut the amount of flavor in my juice than nic. The physiological effects of nicotine are rather well understood, and like red wine, a moderate amount of it might actually be beneficial. The effects of inhaling the dozens to hundreds of different compounds that make up the flavorings in our vapes have not been studied much at all, and there's a good body of evidence that at least a few of them (diketones) carry a substantial risk. Yes, I've tried vaping straight unflavored, but I strongly prefer at least some flavor, so for the past year I've been cutting my store bough juices 50/50 with unflavored, and my DIY mixes use very little flavoring.

The same rationale makes think that it's preferable to tootle-puff 5 ml a day of 15mg juice than to sub-ohm direct lung hit 25 ml a day of 3mg juice. But in the end, the most important thing is to vape however and whatever it takes to keep YOU off the combustibles, and what that takes varies from person to person.

If memory serves nuc is a mental stimulant much like caffeine.
 

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If memory serves nuc is a mental stimulant much like caffeine.
A way overstated statement. Absence of nicotine in bloodstream of smoker definitely is a huge mental suppressant. Nic is needed for ex-smokers for sure. For non-smokers? Questionable.
 

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I've been gradually reducing nic content of my juice over the last 15 months. It was never my intention to do so, I simply don't care as much for the effects.
FWIW I've also cut my caffeine consumption from a bucket of coffee a day to a couple of cups a month. Again, it was not intentional or deliberate. I simply stopped liking the effects.
I'm glad that it's only taken me 56 years to begin to understand myself.
 

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Good point AT. I'll keep the 18mg level for a couple of months, just so I get the feel for how much I vape daily (i've only been vaping three weeks). I currently estimate I vape about 3.5 to 4.0 ml per day. I'll bring down my nic level by 3mg (to 15mg) in a couple of months and see if my intake increases to compensate.
What worked for me, taking into account the volume vaped daily, rather than just dropping to a lower nic level, I dropped from 18 to 12 to 6, by the way, was to work in the lower concentrations.... Vape a tank full of 18mg, fill it up with 12mg and vape that the next day, back to the 18mg for the tank then the 12 mg.... If I using the same amount of 12mg liquid a day over a week as I am the 18mg liquid, I stick with the lower level....

Right now, I have some 3, 6, 12 and 18.... The liquid I use depends mostly on the coil I have in the tank and if I'm able to vape all day or if its only a few chain vape sessions....
 

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A way overstated statement. Absence of nicotine in bloodstream of smoker definitely is a huge mental suppressant. Nic is needed for ex-smokers for sure. For non-smokers? Questionable.

Needed? nah.. A non smoker can make a choice or not. Just like a non drinker can make a choice to have a drink.
 

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I can give you my progression for what it's worth. Much will depend on the devices you use and new devices that are invented in the future. I generally dropped when my body told me (anxious, woozy, sleeplessness) and used more when the cravings were bad.

I was a 40+ year 3 pad chain smoker. I began vaping over 3 years ago with a cig-sized battery and a 3.0 ohm cartomizer. I began at 24mg.

6 months later I was using a ego-sized battery and a top coil clearomizer (Kanger T2). At that time I was using 18mg liquid.

My wife continued using an ego and T2 while I graduated to Evods and Protanks, then to Kayfuns and Dippers, then to Subtanks and Ego Ones. However, both my wife and I decreased our nicotine at roughly the same rate. Our decrease was 3mg about every 6 months, until we made it to about 9mg.

The decrease from 9mg was in smaller steps...7.5 to 7 to 6 to 5...over the course of a year or so. We plan on dropping to 4mg next month. Many times we find ourselves vaping more heavily for a week or two until we level out on the lower nic liquid.
 

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I dropped from 24 to 18 two years ago. That seems to be my happy spot so I just stayed there. I make my own juice so I have tried different levels and 18mg in my devices and vaping style works. No plans to reduce further.
Same situation for me.I vaped 24 for about 3-4 months,then dropped to 18,and for me that drop was horrible,i started getting horrible cravings for a few weeks before i finally got adjusted to the change.Now,i've been at 18mg for well over a year,i may eventually drop a bit more,but 18mg just works well for me so no rush to change it.
 

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    I reduced nicotine because I just don't like pure nic that much. I thought cigs had too much of it as well. The other effects of cigs -- whole tobacco alkaloids, or at least something in the 7000 chemicals or all of them -- I couldn't quit that fast and still like a couple drags every week or 2 (and I believe their effect lasts for days). I also don't see how you guys handle the high nic levels, 18 mg made me nic-sick even with clearos if I wasn't careful.
     

    jdrewry

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    I don't have a timeline for reducing my nic. I've been vaping for 4 years. I started out with 36mg, went rather quickly to 24, a few months later to 18, about a year later to 12. These past few months, I've dropped my level to 6. Over all that time, my health continually improved, so I'm not in a rush to drop my nic level any further. It'll happen when it happens, I suppose.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think I'll be as drastic as you, PD. The way I see it is that I've already taken a HUGE step just by getting off tobacco, and from what I understand, nicotine in and of itself isn't that bad in the levels we take them when vaping. So I'll take my time and enjoy the vaping experience and great flavors and slowly reduce the nic.
    I think you are on the right track here. For most people, nic is not bad at all, certainly no more harmful than caffeine. OTOH, cigs are long proven to have very harmful effects. You are only 3 weeks into this game, you have not conquered your cig dependence yet. My advice is to concentrate on remaining smoke free. That is your goal. You will most likely naturally taper down your nic usage, and if you don't, no harm done. The only thing bad about nic is the politics. If you set arbitrary goals it could be very counter-productive and could lead to a smoking relapse.

    Personally, I smoked 2.5-3 PAD for most of 42 years. I dual used for less than two months, and have been 100.000% smoke free for 14 months now. I started with 24mg, and could have gone higher if it were readily available (locally). I reduced when my body told me I was ready. I never cut so fast that I experienced discomfort at all. There is no medical or scientifically based reason to inflict pain on ourselves simply to reduce nic. I started DIY early on so it was easy and cheap to experiment with nic levels. I got down to 0-3 but recently have gone up to 6mg because I am often in vaping not allowed situations for a few months. I'm really not concerned with that. I have a high tolerance and can and do drip up to 50mg on occasion. Some people can't do that or experience discomfort that I don't. We are all different.

    I have also found that as I reduced to 0-3mg I started to better understand the relationship between nic and the behavioral dependencies I have. For example, I can vape 0mg most of the day without discomfort, but if I can't vape at all for more than an hour I get uncomfortable. I don't think any of us fully understand all that, or the true role of nic in our cig dependence we are trying to shed.
     

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    Tolerance (and need) for nic varies from individual to individual.

    Hear hear! Could not agree more.

    Everyone is an individual. Some can quit cold turkey. My uncle did that in 1980.

    I have tried to quit cold turkey. The patches. Gum, and hypnosis. I even thought of getting the computer on infomercial to stop smoking.

    The only way I can break this addiction is via vaping and gradually lowering the nic level
     
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