Nicotine Salt?

[AJMoore]

I'm far from new to this but have managed to find my equipment and favorite e juice, many of you may not know about Prova
ri's but I've had them for years, 10 years.

Now things have changed up and when I look at new equipment, some say they will pair with salt something or whatever. What????

I have years of stash, the Aspire nautilus atomizer and years of batts. What is it I need to know?

What do they mean about salts? What do they mean about ohms?

Help a bro out here.

 

[Rossum]

Nicotine salts are less alkali than straight nicotine, and therefore less harsh. This makes it practical to use higher nic levels, which in turn makes low-powered gear more effective.

There are also claims that certain salts are absorbed more quickly than straight nicotine, but I'm somewhat skeptical about this.

If you've got stuff that's been working for you for years (as do I), why change?

 

[Rangertrix]

An ohm is a measure of resistance. To vapers it is referring to the resistance of the coil you're using.
Nicotine salts is a type of nicotine that is more readily absorbed by the body so you can use higher nicotine concentration liquid without the harshness. Therefore you can use really high nic level liquids and vape less often to satisfy your craving.

This is an EXTREMELY abbreviated explanation, but there are many many threads here concerning both that go very in depth.

 

[Storm52]

I'm still using a provari with a nautilus on top. No expert,but nic salts allow high nic (mg/mm) that doesn't have a harsh vape. Nic salt and freebies can be used in any atty.

 

[ScottP]

I'm still using a provari with a nautilus on top. No expert,but nic salts allow high Mic (mg/mm) that doesn't have a harsh vape. Mic salt and freebies can be used in any atty.

<---- The N key is that way.

 

[Fredman1]

I'm interested in salts to. Got myself a pod, but my regular 12mg is way to little in it. Flavour and throat hit is low.
I loaded it with 18mg and its better but I think its giving me heartburn. Not sure yet..just started out. Looks to me like these pods do work better with salts...?

 

[deb51]

hi,
Can't help you out with this as I'm in Oz & we are a bit behind down here to say the least!
What's the legals over there these days?All ok from what I have read recently.Supposedly one can import eliquids to Oz from there,(Mixology & Soulblu).Do you know of any others that are well known?
Have been importing from Hong Kong & US for almost 2 years that we have been Vaping...
Used to be an NZ/OZ Forum but can't locate..do you know of it?Good luck with your search for info.Deb

 

[AJMoore]

I'm still using a provari with a nautilus on top. No expert,but nic salts allow high Mic (mg/mm) that doesn't have a harsh vape. Mic salt and freebies can be used in any atty.

That helps, there was some info on sites dating salts weren't appropriate for regular gear and attys.

 

[AJMoore]

Nicotine salts are less alkali than straight nicotine, and therefore less harsh. This makes it practical to use higher nic levels, which in turn makes low-powered gear more effective.

There are also claims that certain salts are absorbed more quickly than straight nicotine, but I'm somewhat skeptical about this.

If you've got stuff that's been working for you for years (as do I), why change?

I know, right? But my fav vendor for e liquid seems to be out of business and I can't find a good simple tobacco flavor. Everyone has some cute little flavor add on. Salts appeared in my searches and I was so out of touch, had to pose the question to those in the know.

 

[Rangertrix]

That helps, there was some info on sites dating salts weren't appropriate for regular gear and attys.

Salts work best in anything mouth to lung.
High nic salts in a tank that produces a lot of vapor would be a nic overload.
You can get low nic salts to use in standard tanks, but that basically defeats the primary advantage of using them.
The idea is to get the same amount of nicotine while vaping considerably less with salts.

 

[Terry Koontz]

I know, right? But my fav vendor for e liquid seems to be out of business and I can't find a good simple tobacco flavor. Everyone has some cute little flavor add on. Salts appeared in my searches and I was so out of touch, had to pose the question to those in the know.

umbavape and nicotineriver

 

[ScottP]

Salts work best in anything mouth to lung.
High nic salts in a tank that produces a lot of vapor would be a nic overload.
You can get low nic salts to use in standard tanks, but that basically defeats the primary advantage of using them.
The idea is to get the same amount of nicotine while vaping considerably less with salts.

Not necessarily. My wife only vapes 6mg/ml juice which is fairly low, but even at that level straight nic was making her cough. So I now have to make her juice using 3mg from base, 3mg from salts.

 

[score69]

Not necessarily. My wife only vapes 6mg/ml juice which is fairly low, but even at that level straight nic was making her cough. So I now have to make her juice using 3mg from base, 3mg from salts.

This is a great advantage of salts. I've done the same thing with my DL juice. Mix 50:50 freebase and salts to reduce the TH. I'm normally good with straight freebase, but if I am sick, have a cold, etc, using salts like this are much easier on the throat.

I don't really notice any irritation from 3mg freebase on a daily normal basis. But if I'm sick, it irritates an already sore throat. Salts resolve this problem for me. I always keep some mixed up for this reason.

I recently ordered my first pod (Justfog Minifit) to try as a travel device, or something to carry as a backup instead of carrying two regular mods. I'll be mixing high nic salts to give this a try, but I've never vaped high concentration salts before now since I mostly DL.

 

[Rangertrix]

Not necessarily. My wife only vapes 6mg/ml juice which is fairly low, but even at that level straight nic was making her cough. So I now have to make her juice using 3mg from base, 3mg from salts.

There are certainly other instances where they have uses, I was just speaking in generalities.
That's why I said "primary" advantage.
But I agree in your wifes instance they would certainly be advantageous.

 

[Storm52]

<---- The N key is that way.

Damned new spell check thing!

 

[Rossum]

That helps, there was some info on sites dating salts weren't appropriate for regular gear and attys.

Depends.

If someone were to vape a 30-50 mg/ml nic salt in what many people today consider "regular" gear and atties, which are mostly high-powered, big-air, intended for DL (Direct to Lung) vaping style, they'd probably have a bad time. But cut that down to 3 mg in such gear and I don't see how it would be a problem.

Conversely, if someone is vaping say, 12 or 18 mg in a Nautilus, I don't see any reason why they couldn't vape the a similar strength of salts in such gear. I tried that back in 2015 by breaking open some Juul pods and diluting their juice down to my (then) usual 15 mg and vaping it one of my regular squonkers. It was fine, but it didn't do anything special for me, and I didn't care much for the taste either.

But my fav vendor for e liquid seems to be out of business and I can't find a good simple tobacco flavor.

That I can't help with. I ditched tobacco flavors pretty early on.

 

[RayN]

I can't find a good simple tobacco flavor.

@AJMoore
I don't use tobacco flavors anymore. When I did I loved the 7 Leaf Tobacco Blend from ECBlend
Very reputable dealer if you don't know them already.

 

[stols001]

Nic salts can be used in ANY device, the key is to MATCH the nicotine level to your device.

I suppose "Nic salts can be used in pods" is true and typically you may see very HIGH nic salts in pod devices with less wattage output which can be a good fit, sorta, I guess.

BUT there is no special "vape device" that is somehow perfect with nic salts. I use your pretty standard MTL setups with mostly 18 mg/ml nic salts, with a few higher nic tanks for when I need them and etc.

Anna

 

[Rangertrix]

@score69 @ScottP Those are both circumstances I hadn't really considered, but sounds like it could work for me in a couple of situations.
Thanks for the info and the great ideas.