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Today was a pretty bad vaping day. My resistance reader arrived and i couldnt control myself from trying 2 coil clapton installion on prince deck. I have only very basic tools, not even cutters. Basicly just what came with the wotofo plus a tiny electrians flathead screwdriver. Prebuilt claptons are easy to fit on place, but then trying to cut the extra lengh off with kitchen scissors, well basicly just twist them in wrong position and make the wire bad. I cut myself pretty bad in the process when i tried to hold the clapton still while cutting, finger caugh between scissors ✂️. Then i precut them before installion and after wasting few alian v2s i though it is good now but tester gave no reading whatever i tryed. Then i decided not to waste anymore claptons or further dull my kitchen scissors.

I went back to harassing wotofo so i get my feeling of succes but i botched this installion aswell and was getting spitback from first hits and dryhits very fast so i was irratated at this point and took few angry vapes from valyrian and max mesh prince. Gladly i learned now that i should use almoust the whole strip of wotofo cotton piece, only cut of the pointy head which help to get the cotton thru the system and install the cotton in an angle so the sides push middle section upwards and push into the coil. Its now fluffy af, used so much cotton but the contact is now really good and the ceramic spring system should also work better. Now it work really good again. Glad i learned something, even a little. Oh and the thing even got on fire. When i took the cap off when i had the bad installion and tryed to reshape the coil and pressed it down for better contact, but it deformed and when i test fired it was like max flame colt lighter. Glad i wasnt inhaling that. I quess i forgot the hotspot thing when i deformed coil for better contact.. Another lesson.

Gotta give credit for smok prince and uwell valyrian those give very rich flavors and huge vapor with stock coils. Almoust little dismotivating to build when subohm perform so well. Tv12p new mesh coils have larger surface area than the profile rda mesh 16x6.8mm vs 25mm x 10mm thats a big difference and the triple mesh is probably even bigger. when you fire those at 120w the vapor is brutale, but very rich in flavor. Uwell valyrian have a super smooth vapor and very rich and deep flavors with huge vapor prodiction aswell. But i like dripping when home i can switch flavors so easily and with low power i get really impressive results and incredible smooth vapor. Airflow on wotofo profile is perfect, flavirs and clouds under 60w unbelievable. But i cant say its clearly better than those 2 subohms, i hope squanking works and i get 8ml capacity wotofo profile which perform so nice with lower power then i dont have much need for subohms. There is even better mesh coil for profile called the nexmesh im eagerly waiting for monday so i get my hands on it. It ups performance a little 0.18 ohm to 0.13 with triple density and higher power to 70w. I will see how much better it can make this allready super awesome rda. And waiting for my tools so i get some sense in the building of rba.
 
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But i might add it is worthy thing to buy, no matter what subohm. It will take smoothness and flavors on next level and vapor production is huge. I found 20 drips of ejuice then couple fires without inhaling so it eliminate spitback if you dont wanna wait even a little so the ejuice saturates and most get off the coil. Talking about seconds. Then you can chainvape deep inhales the most satisfying vapor ever,room full of vapor. And it never get hot, not even warm. With nexmesh this gotta be the pinnacle, atleast for me. Cant wait for the squank, i saw on youtube how it works like vaping porn. Ejuice fill until almoust reaching the airflow holes then sucking all excess juice back into bottle.
 
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Scissors won't work well at all on wire. If you don't have a wire cutter, a nail clipper is good as a backup.

There are a few things that make your life easier if you're going to build. A decent wire cutter. Needle nose pliers. The bent needle nose tweezers ( the really like a needle top).

Nice addons are ceramic tweezers to manipulate and strum your coil while actually applying current so you don't short it out, and dedicated sharp scissors used to trim wick and nothing else. All the above can be found at great prices on Amazon. I never bought a "vape" tool kit. Generally overpriced and lesser quality tools than if you just get them individually yourself.

But in a pinch plain tweezers and a nail clipper can get you by.
 

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Thanks what a great idea! Nail clipper, my wife have extra, i may try to build today. How do you get cotton thru coils so its nice, fluffy and even? Wotofo cottons have premade pointy head for profile, so it fit between coil and ceramic plate and fit really nice.

This is the set im getting nextweek. Kit 2 cost about 7.5 euro not a bad price

US $8.79 20% OFF|XFKM X9 Mini Vape DIY Tool Bag Tweezers Pliers Wire Heaters Kit Coil Jig Winding For Packing Electronic Cigarette Accessories-in Electronic Cigarette Accessories from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
 

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Today i visit the near city and go little vape shoppin, as the gbox is not even shipped and i need squonking mod fast. Depending of what the shop have to offer im thinking eleaf squeese 2 for the profile. Desire cut 108w also look very nice but i dont know what selection the shop have becouse the laws of rule society everything is controlled to ..... But i remember the owned always use squeese2 so i recon they sell that.
 
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I bought the vandyvape pulse dual, feel very good in hand and bottle is nice. I was going to buy the pico squeese 2 but the fire button placement just felt too ankward. Beatifull mod but with pulse dual i dont have to buy new 21700 battery setup, i can use 2x lg hg2s for this and mighty 6000mah power. They also sell geekvape gbox for 85e lol i ordered it 35e and this vandyvape was 69e when its about 50 to 60e online so i didnt pay too much at all and support local stores.

Also got the nexmesh better mesh coils for the profile. Today evening is gonna be awesome when i get to build this stuff. My wife gonna shop forever before this happens. Glad i bought the pulse dual will update how it works and nexmesh too.
 

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Project worked beyond expetations. First impression of vandyvape dual pulse is very positive. I built profile neshmesh rda in hurry but it works really good. Saturation tube goes just under the mesh coil and no flood, juice to mouth or dry hits. Perfect result, now im really clouding my house good. No leaking, i hate ejuice mess it dryes your skin and is annoying to clean but this just works. Nexmesh upped the performance im not trying anything fancy now, just enjoying the result. Gotta update the firmware tho. I like the mod perfect ergonomics, sit well in hand. Index finger for fire, middle finger for squoking. Love it. But will update if i find something bad, or worth mentioning. Cheers.
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Project worked beyond expetations. First impression of vandyvape dual pulse is very positive. I built profile neshmesh rda in hurry but it works really good. Saturation tube goes just under the mesh coil and no flood, juice to mouth or dry hits. Perfect result, now im really clouding my house good. No leaking, i hate ejuice mess it dryes your skin and is annoying to clean but this just works. Nexmesh upped the performance im not trying anything fancy now, just enjoying the result. Gotta update the firmware tho. I like the mod perfect ergonomics, sit well in hand. Index finger for fire, middle finger for squoking. Love it. But will update if i find something bad, or worth mentioning. Cheers. View attachment 790479
I'm glad you like the mod and it's working for you. I truly hope you don't ever have to deal with Vandy Vape for any problems. Their customer service is worse than horrible at best. I personally will never buy any Vandy Vape products ever again. Definitely don't buy Vandy Vape products from Fasttech. It voids any warranty from Vandy Vape.
 
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Warranty works with local vape store if any problems arrise. Today i took it on the go and no problems at all. Very good performance, easy to use and squonking work better than i hoped. Im ex smoker and appreciate chainvaping this is a really good combo, huge flavor and vapor everything i chase, finally i found setup with no compromises at all. Demotivating to further build and learn rbas but i will practice when i get the tools today or tommorow. I did rebuilt the profile yesterday becouse i did it too hasty and eagerly on the first time and 2 nexmesh coils in row were faulty, i think. I got 0.10ohm reading and ohm reader machine didint even testfire when it switched between 0.09 and 0.10hm. May it be becouse i used moisty thin rubber gloves and the coil caught some moisturing and lowered the resistance? Just my theory. But 3rd was 0.12 them 0.13ohm and works perfectly i build it good as i could. Do you think using gloves while building is useless? I dont believe that coils or cotton get any dirt or "flavor" from my hands. Profile is fun platform to build, top gap sit even little too tight i dont like to pull it off while profile is sitting on tester or any mod i use becouse i fear it will pull 510 off :d i have abandonded eleaf istick i use to pull it off.

But for vandyvape dual pulse i have nothing bad to say. Batterys fit really well like you drop them on the hole and they slowly slide in place, feels good perfect size moment. Battery cover no problem. Squonk system really well machined. Mod fires instantly and with 2 hg2 and 70w battery live is superb. Screen works really well and give all the info and system. And well placed. Hand feel is perfect, this is super ergonomic. No problmes but only second day of using, will update if something arrise.

Feels perfect but it only come with 1 bottle and finding spare is frustrating. By measurements i think almoust any 7ml will work. Lostvape 7ml squonk look perfect fit but only pink option in ali. Ordered some general 7ml bottles

Eleaf custom servive is also terrible. Ordered flawed box mod, only offered me 5e discount coupon which i didnt even get then stop replying my mails. That was my last eleaf order, glad i didnt get pico squeese 2. Their mods always leave gaps. Betweem mod and tank, yet they still advertise gapless mods.
 
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That was a real stupid theory by me. Maybe some coils are just faulty, but no fun when 10pac cost 10e from locals. Ali you get 20 coils 10e plus gift.

I must add the juice feed and return work perfectly. In normal use imposible to over flood, no mess or juice to mouth at all. Just need spare bottle which is hard to get and if something happen to the bottle the whole system is useless. Really dumb it only comes with 1.
 
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Sorry spam. Only negative i can say about wotofo profile that the gap sit very tight and feel bad for 510 connector to pull it off. Upper selection also come off becouse you choose your airflow setting by how you put it back, pretty genious.

About dual pulse mod i can say it have alot of options but only - + and fire buttons so you have to learn some combinations. I only need wattage mode, plus how to lock settings and turn it on and off thats easy. And how to refresh coil reading. But if you wanna learn all you need some time with the manual. You can also disable the menus you dont need, for easier navigation, but dont remember how. Squonk bottle cover is nicely made and taking it off is fast and easy. It is also very solid. Same for battery cover
 

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For learning I would suggest a Gorge or other similar RDA. It's single coil and very easy to build on. I got my last one for $19.99. 28ga. is too thin for high wattage building. It will get really hot. Thinner wire is great for mtl but I like Fused Claptons for dl. Advanced Vape Supply has a good selection of SS wire. My favorite is the quad core but you may not want to go that far. I like the 4×30 core with a 40 wrap. It makes a wide wire that is really flat and has a relatively low mass. A single coil with tri core would work nicely for up to 70W. On regulated mods I don't pay much thought to resistance. I build for surface area. I usually end up in the .35 to .4 range.
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Like your Pulse dual! This atty ^^^ is on my Pulse BF. it has served me well as my work mod for almost a year. Still looks and works like new.
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Very handsome mod indeed^^^ bottle look very similiar maybe they both use same bottle gotta check it and post picture of mine if anyone know what bottle 7ml would fit in pulse dual. But glad to hear it is wear resistant so i dont have to worry about it. The seller who sold me the pulse dual over squeeese 2 told me that pulse squonk mods have very good reputation and work great. I dont feel im gonna get any trouble out of it. Bottle is hard to open if i close it too tight but thats my own stupidity.

I can try 1 coil build on profile i have different claptons(alot) and A1 wires coming 24,26,28ga for learning. Tommorow i get tfv12 king gotta try the 3 coil deck rba should be interesring.. Now im gonna pick up my tools and some cottons, claptons maybe i try 1 coil build today, or prince rba now when i have the proper tools. I have alot of building material, but little know how :) gotta focus on something and make me backup setup. I cant see giving up dual pulse wotofo nexmesh combo anytime soon. Im not gonna spend anymore money on vaping exept spare parts and ejuice. Well thats what i always say.
 

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I made prince rba coil from big 2x ss316l claptons it became 0.12ohm. It took some time for the tester to heat it up but i made heatin even and all nice. It start to work at 140w but give dry hits very soon so need to take really short drags, any tips? It doesnt have alot of cotton like the profile but as much as i can pull thru the clapton coil and bend the ends. But still not much. Maybe i try to force more cotton into coil and see what happens. But still nice! With proper tools working is really pleasant. It calm down my adhd when i get to focus so much to something.
 

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I stuffed it much as possible and not the prettiest build... But it actually works now! Even at 160w it starts a bit slow and 180w is really brutal, i think 160w and preheat set to hard may be the best. But not dry hits anymore! Im so happy from the begining of this thread ive come to this, this actually work really well! Im learning and making stuff that actually work. This thing is really mean much nicotine rush lol
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Thanks for help they bended a little when i max stuffed them afterward for quick testing and it definetely improved with more cotton, thats what i needed to know. I think 190w with normal preheat. I have a feeling steinless steel is slow to heat vs kanthal. I will wick the 3 coil setup today this was more of a practise. And i dont like setup so much. I think its good when you forget your vapes and spend long day outside home and comeback and need a quick relief..

"vandyvape official store" in ali added pulse dual and bf squonk bottles for selection when i asked ifthey can get the bottles. Gotta love the chinese business!
 

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Making sword for the king beast went better than exepted! Heres some tidy coilwork, truly mighty giant. Airflow is superb good, not leaking a drip, vapor production insane and flavor really good. The key is to bend cottons so their ends cover the saturation holes perfectly. Got nice fat strips of cotton in claptons so it perform really well. Most pleasant surprise.
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