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Papa_Lazarou

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Loki lab Router bit drip tips here X 2.... swapped from the odins.... I might end up buying another nuppin' or two before they sell out... (for a woody or new grand or sumpin' ;) ) Im in love with them. The only thing is that they're in limited supply-- I can't think of anything else not to love... well, to get nit-picky, that they're allen head screws, but at least they don't get in the way/loosen themselves- they are smooth to tighten.

Routers - lucky snake.

I had one of the screws fall out of the atty during a rebuild. Thank god it didn't fall off the table. Tiny, tiny, little so and so's.
 

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You aren't going to get better performance in the Nuppin' with the same coils you ran in the RM2 and RM3. Just not going to happen. The biggest reason is it has an actual AFC. You need to lower your resistance to get a more effective vape. For instance, if you are running dual 28g coils @ .7Ω on the RM3 you need to drop to .4-.5Ω on the Nuppin'.

Thanks muzic. Trying a little higher ohm setup now (per Papa_L's suggestion) and will give it time to break in to see if the sweet notes will show up. Was running 4.5 +/- on the RM3 and have 5.5 going on the Nuppin now.If that fails, I'll go the other way and drop the ohms down some. Again, first experience with the AFC - is it best to go wide open with it to get the higher sweet notes?
 

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What size is the air hole on your RM2 and RM3s? I run with 1/16 on my non AFC RBAs and have my Nuppin set to 1/2 or slightly less of a single air hole.

I ran both at 1/16. I have the AFC now at 1/2 open. Wasn't sure if opening it up all the way would help or not. Is the general rule that a more closed AFC produces more flavor?
 

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There's a balance between air flow and ohms, and as the ohms lower you need more airflow to keep the vape cool and produce to clouds. So yes to a point, if you go too small the vape will get hot, harsh and/or just not produce enough vapor.

I suggest to just stay with that for now and play with coil placement until you get that as good as possible, then move on to finding your personal air flow amount. Moving the coil by 1 mm can have a big impact and change the vape greatly.
 

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There's a balance between air flow and ohms, and as the ohms lower you need more airflow to keep the vape cool and produce to clouds. So yes to a point, if you go too small the vape will get hot, harsh and/or just not produce enough vapor.

I suggest to just stay with that for now and play with coil placement until you get that as good as possible, then move on to finding your personal air flow amount. Moving the coil by 1 mm can have a big impact and change the vape greatly.

Ok, thanks for the tips FB.
 

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Thanks muzic. Trying a little higher ohm setup now (per Papa_L's suggestion) and will give it time to break in to see if the sweet notes will show up. Was running 4.5 +/- on the RM3 and have 5.5 going on the Nuppin now.If that fails, I'll go the other way and drop the ohms down some. Again, first experience with the AFC - is it best to go wide open with it to get the higher sweet notes?

I'm assuming you mean .45 and .55 (decimal adjustment). I'm getting my best vape on the Nuppin' at about .5 (up from the .4's I run in Odins, for example), and I run with the afc about half open for that balance that FB was talking about. I can open it up more, and sometimes do, but I find the flavour backs off a tick when I do.
 

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I'm assuming you mean .45 and .55 (decimal adjustment). I'm getting my best vape on the Nuppin' at about .5 (up from the .4's I run in Odins, for example), and I run with the afc about half open for that balance that FB was talking about. I can open it up more, and sometimes do, but I find the flavour backs off a tick when I do.

Yes, my fault - meant .45 and .55. I'm set up the way you're describing and will give some time for the break in. Thanks
 

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OK...Nuppin' will be here on Thursday. I will be using 29 gage Kanthal at 1/16 ID tension coil using the gizmo. How many wraps do you recommend? I will also be using sheshidi cotton. How long should the wick be and how should it be positioned? I will be starting with a single coil setup.

edit: almost forgot...how about coil position?
 
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OK...Nuppin' will be here on Thursday. I will be using 29 gage Kanthal at 1/16 ID tension coil using the gizmo. How many wraps do you recommend? I will also be using sheshidi cotton. How long should the wick be and how should it be positioned? I will be starting with a single coil setup.

edit: almost forgot...how about coil position?

That would depend on what type of vape you are requiring. a 6/5 wrap will put you at about 1Ω which would be about neutral vape wise. I would highly recommend dual 8/7 wraps for .6Ω and that is a good middle of the road vape for the Nuppin'. As to wicking, short tails is preferred. You don't want this atty to be sucking any cotton back down into the atty. It is very easy to squonk and drain it.
 

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That would depend on what type of vape you are requiring. a 6/5 wrap will put you at about 1Ω which would be about neutral vape wise. I would highly recommend dual 8/7 wraps for .6Ω and that is a good middle of the road vape for the Nuppin'. As to wicking, short tails is preferred. You don't want this atty to be sucking any cotton back down into the atty. It is very easy to squonk and drain it.

I have some RxW too, 2mm and 3mm. I did not like it's taste on the RSST, 3mm. Do you think it, 2mm, will work better on the Nuppin' compared to cotton. How about the coil position for your recommended dual coil setup?
 

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I have some RxW too, 2mm and 3mm. I did not like it's taste on the RSST, 3mm. Do you think it, 2mm, will work better on the Nuppin' compared to cotton. How about the coil position for your recommended dual coil setup?

If you wanted to use the 2mm you need 2 1/16" duals 8/7 wrap and for the 3mm you need 2 2.5mm 7/6 wrap. Either one will work good. If you don't have a coil gizmo, I highly suggest you getting one. Use the 2nd and 3rd smallest rods to wrap with.

ADDIT; Forgot to mention I only use RxW in all my atty's. My Nuppin' is setup w/ dual 1/16" tensioned micro's coming in @.44Ω and vapes very much the same as my Mephisto setup w/ dual 2.5mm tensioned coils coming in @ .24Ω, because of chamber size.
 
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As said, keep the tails free of the center drain. Nothing drains better than this baby if you let it do its job.

Duals really unlock the power of this atty - it's so versatile with the afc. MTL or direct lung inhaling are both doable and quality. Net .5 - .6 ohms would be wicked.

Coil height is a little high with the Nuppin'. Just make sure they are at air hole height and close to the outer edge of the platform. RxW would work fine for wicking - 2 ml with the coil ID you're going for fits well.

Make sure you play with the afc once you've got a setup - this atty really changes its characteristics as you adjust.
 

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Great...thanks for the insight Muzi and Papa. You guys are talking me into a dual coil set up. I am a little hesitant about using the RxW because of the bad experience I had with a RSST dual coil setup...taste was very funky. Cotton worked much better for the RSST. Well, I won't know until I try. It's easy enough to switch out the wicks if needed. I will post some pics once it arrives and get her built.
 

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Now that I have had my Nuppin for a few days I've had the chance to experiment with the afc. Wow! That's all I can say! I can't believe the differences in flavor and vapor production characterics with the slightest adjustments. While I am very happy with my Rm2s & Hornet, this baby opens up a whole new world. Tight & flavorful or airy cloud producer and everything in between. very fun to tinker with and, I haven't even explored dual coils yet as I'm loving the single so far.
I never realized how good the flavor of "unflavored" juice really is!
Lovin' my Nuppin'! :)
 

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As said, keep the tails free of the center drain. Nothing drains better than this baby if you let it do its job.

Duals really unlock the power of this atty - it's so versatile with the afc. MTL or direct lung inhaling are both doable and quality. Net .5 - .6 ohms would be wicked.

Coil height is a little high with the Nuppin'. Just make sure they are at air hole height and close to the outer edge of the platform. RxW would work fine for wicking - 2 ml with the coil ID you're going for fits well.

Make sure you play with the afc once you've got a setup - this atty really changes its characteristics as you adjust.


I'm soooooo disappointed! I had my Nuppin just long enough to get a sweet single coil build in it, and was very impressed. No sooner than I started working on a dual coil my chest/head cold kicked into ultra high gear, and I haven't been able to taste anything at all for like three days. From that one day of actual use, I can already tell this is going to be the atty for me. Thanks to Papa l for suggesting it!
 

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I was so excited to try a dual coil set up in this. I've done it in the Odin as well as the RM2. To be honest, I've found that with a braided coil set down to .5 I really don't need to go dual coil. As everyone has said, with a little bit of AFC adjustment I can make it as hot or as cool as I really need without having to engage a second coil. And flavor? The flavor on this one beats every set up I've tried in my limited RBA experience. My current favorite is the braided coil but with both air holes open about halfway to give huge clouds and big flavor. The only two things I've found fiddly about it are based on the post placement as you really have to pay attention to adjusting the coil once its locked into the atty and with the 90 degree turn required to set the coil correctly. However, once I figured that out its been smooth sailing.
 
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