Nuppin'

[Roscoe01]

You can try a slight tilt to the coil also to help with spitting. I usually do one coil center with the air hole and the other coil a lil higher than center of air hole. I don't use a tip and never have any juice in my mouth

Exactly how I do It [emoji651] . I tailpipe(no dt) also with no juice in my mouth.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Thanks for the tips everyone - I'll keep trying later, got a busy day ahead

I've tried about 7 more builds, 26g and twisted 30 - hot legs every time. Sloths aren't advanced enough for a Nuppin but Sloths are also persistent and will rock this baby in due time. I must say, if I could get a decent 26g dual without hot legs, it would be on par with my twisted builds. It tasted amazing last night on short drags, but the hot legs ruined it after more than a 2 second drag.

X, I can't do plain ol' 29 brother, I hate to say - I just don't like it unless it's twisted bro the flavor lacks in my opinion on 29g, not sure why - I also want to be in the .4 range especially after having tasted Wakonda in a Nuppin @ .4 ohms. I'd call you but I've gotta get caught up on everything I've been procrastinating this morning.

This ain't no thang peeps! I'm rocking 2 Odins producing hellacious flavor and vapor. Plenty of vapor goodness to keep me satisfied until the Nup comes around what a cool little atty though, worth the learning curve. Does anyone else find it a very smooth vape? So smooth, I love it.

I do notice all of you have the leg that goes into the center post coming off the bottom. Mine comes off the top. I may try doing it like you freaks and see if that makes a difference too.

oh and X I've been snipping the wire on the gizmo like you do...incredible tip bro, makes that part super easy!!

 

[Sloth Tonight]

This is how the Nuppin' was meant to be coiled. There is no turning of the center post or anything like that. This is the coils i put in mine 3 months ago. I'm still rockin' this bad boy right now...

I do notice a huge difference between your build and the way I do mine, which is that your coil sits close to the deck hole wire capture. I've been bringing mine out so that they are facing the deck opposite the center post's hole. Thanks for the pic muzic. Most pics I've seen are wicked so I can't really get a feel for peoples coil placement.

 

[Spydro]

Muzichead's build is how pdib suggested building the Nuppin', with the coils relative position set by the down leg straight down into the deck holes. How I build my 3 Nuppin's. That doesn't make it wrong to build how Russ, others build theirs though. It's a versatile atty. I get massive flavor rich vapor with no joose in mouth from any of mine even with Routers and my very long lung hits. So I'm not going to try to fix what ain't broke until they actually need changing.

 

[xxbodkinxx]

Anyone have a Nuppin to sell? That's the last on my list of Atties I want to own. Got my rm2, rm4, Odin and now I want this one. If I can't source one of these I want a derringer but would rather have a Nuppin.


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[muzichead]

I do notice a huge difference between your build and the way I do mine, which is that your coil sits close to the deck hole wire capture. I've been bringing mine out so that they are facing the deck opposite the center post's hole. Thanks for the pic muzic. Most pics I've seen are wicked so I can't really get a feel for peoples coil placement.

Muzichead's build is how pdib suggested building the Nuppin', with the coils relative position set by the down leg straight down into the deck holes. How I build my 3 Nuppin's. That doesn't make it wrong to build how Russ, others build theirs though. It's a versatile atty. I get massive flavor rich vapor with no joose in mouth from any of mine even with Routers and my very long lung hits. So I'm not going to try to fix what ain't broke until they actually need changing.

I would guess there is no real wrong way to coil the Nuppin', but the reason I did mine the way I did was because that is the way Peter showed how to do it. I figured if the mfg suggested it, it must be right. Like I said, I still have the same build in mine as on Nov 1st and have had no problems with hot legs or hot spots at all. I dry burn every 2-3 days as needed. Sure my coils right now look a little ragged, but the vape is still like the day I set it up. Flavor and vapor is off the charts. The only thing I would do different on the next build would be to slightly raise the coils. Right now they are just shy of being centered, top to bottom, in the AFC. My next setup I will concentrate on centering the coils.

I will also add that the reason, (I think), Peter coiled his with the bottom wind to the center post and top wind down to the negative is when the coil is relative to the AFC, it sits centerline almost at the top of the post. This would put the bottom wind directly in line with the wire capture hole in the center post. If it was a top wind going into it, your coil would lean downward on the center post side and could cause problems with airflow and or connectivity.

This is a pic from a few weeks ago aftet a dry burn...

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I vape mine with the coils being asymmetrical - one coil is higher (and therefore, slightly closer to the center).

Posted earlier about how I discovered this accidentally, but pdib does the same, and it really rounded out the flavour profile for some reason. Won't help with the spitting, likely, but more food for thought.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Yeah, it seems the pic I posted was an old one - before Elvis. I just uncorked the Elvis build to rewick and shot these pix. Notice that the neg leg goes straight down. Also notice how short that pos leg is - that's what you get when you back out / rotate the centerpost so the positive holes are closer to the neg holes)

I also realize I am enjoying some true "papa-esque" eccentricity in the height of my coils

Yep, the cutting flush with the gizmo edge is money baby.

And yes Odins do kick solid ayuss too

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I'm gonna wait until the new driver and screws come in. I think a major problem is that my center post screw is stripped, so I'm unable to get that final turn in - ie one of my coils remains a little loose, I see wiggle on the lead even after tightening "all the way." I also need to learn how to wind a coil with the correct lead coming off the bottom, that'll take some practice.

If the new driver/screws/coil winding fail, off to the classies I want to love this little dude but I don't like the design at all. I just like the flavor I've gotten hints of.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I also realize I am enjoying some true "papa-esque" eccentricity in the height of my coils

Booyeah!

I find it lets me fine tune the TH and some of the flavour aspects. The coils are still identically wound and the legs are the same, of course.

I also need to learn how to wind a coil with the correct lead coming off the bottom, that'll take some practice.

Just wind in the other direction with the gizmo handle.

 

[finagle69]

I also need to learn how to wind a coil with the correct lead coming off the bottom, that'll take some practice.

LOL. Just go the other way.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

LOL. Just go the other way.

I did but it didn't work out

Will try again

It's funny because hot legs were a thing of my past entirely, then the nup comes along

This atty is on track to become a KFL in my eyes. ROFL I'll get blasted for that one...take it easy, Reoville, I am but a sloth

 

[super_X_drifter]

Tim, in the beginning of this video you will see how I wind the gizmo to get the legs coming off right. Don't feel bad bro. I have it draw on my gizmo to remember it. Now it's instinct

Here's the vid the coil master / kuro koiler types don't wanna hear

http://youtu.be/JcndUsgQHBU

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Thanks Russ! I'm gonna study your methods again in full, I just tried to rebuild an Odin and can't get rid of hot legs there either. Sometimes I go through a phase of making nothing but perfect coils. Other times I fail at every attempt - it's an issue of tension on the gizmo, I think. I'd rather not go back to hand wrapping, although when I hand wrap on a larger ID, it generally solves my problem.

I'll get it nailed down. in the meantime my one built Odin and I will be having quality time together

Carry on everyone. Nuppin happening here

 

[muzichead]

It's just a matter of turning the gizmo either clockwise or counter clockwise. For a Right handed coil you turn the gizmo counter clockwise and for a left handed it would be clockwise....

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Well she's a chuckin' and the other Odin's rebuilt too. Need to fiddle with the airhole alignment still but the flavor's good. On par with the Odin, so if ya'll say it's better I'll keep truckin and chuckin til she's better. Probably just an alignment thing.

I've realized two things in my hours of building tonight. 1) sometimes what I think are hot legs, aren't a problem. I've ditched several builds that lit up from the inside out, both coils firing evenly, because there was a glow along the leg (after the coil is fully lit) 1/4 to 1/2 the way to the post. I'm thinking this minor glow is just heat radiating off the wire from the nicely lit coils. 2) my biggest issue is getting the right amount of tension, and I'm thinking about buying a fly fishing reel

Nice little atty. Interesting, to say the least. The wicking is cool.

Edit - actually, I think the flavor's more "full," which is awesome considering one of my coils is off-center of an airhole horizontally...

 

[Soignee]

Thanks Russ! I'm gonna study your methods again in full, I just tried to rebuild an Odin and can't get rid of hot legs there either. Sometimes I go through a phase of making nothing but perfect coils. Other times I fail at every attempt - it's an issue of tension on the gizmo, I think. I'd rather not go back to hand wrapping, although when I hand wrap on a larger ID, it generally solves my problem.

I'll get it nailed down. in the meantime my one built Odin and I will be having quality time together

Carry on everyone. Nuppin happening here

Tim, I will say that with twisted wire I have found that I do have to do some compression on the coil to eliminate hot legs sometimes, not always, it seems to happen more with coils that I build with a smaller ID than 7/64 (or 2.77 mm). When I was playing with the Cyclone the other day I was forced to do a smaller ID coil and it was a real pain to eliminate the hot legs on that coil.

Hope that provides some insight...

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Tim, I will say that with twisted wire I have found that I do have to do some compression on the coil to eliminate hot legs sometimes, not always, it seems to happen more with coils that I build with a smaller ID than 7/64 (or 2.77 mm). When I was playing with the Cyclone the other day I was forced to do a smaller ID coil and it was a real pain to eliminate the hot legs on that coil.

Hope that provides some insight...

What's funny is with my twisted builds I didn't have hot legs, just tons of spitback. Now I'm running dual 26g @ .4 ohms and it's kickin really good. Some people suggested a larger ID for twisted to reduce spitback, so once I figure out how to set up the next biggest mandrel on my gizmo I'll try doing that. I know you always use larger ID with twisted; any spitback action?

It's a Nuppin thing though. The spitback is no issue on an Odin but I think the low profile of the Nup makes it prone to that. At any rate, no spitback on dual 26, just a nice smooth flavorful vape for now

I got in my new drivers and spare screws today. I'm pumped because the driver that comes with the Nup is garbage this will make building this little dude much more fun

 

[Soignee]

What's funny is with my twisted builds I didn't have hot legs, just tons of spitback. Now I'm running dual 26g @ .4 ohms and it's kickin really good. Some people suggested a larger ID for twisted to reduce spitback, so once I figure out how to set up the next biggest mandrel on my gizmo I'll try doing that. I know you always use larger ID with twisted; any spitback action?

It's a Nuppin thing though. The spitback is no issue on an Odin but I think the low profile of the Nup makes it prone to that. At any rate, no spitback on dual 26, just a nice smooth flavorful vape for now

I got in my new drivers and spare screws today. I'm pumped because the driver that comes with the Nup is garbage this will make building this little dude much more fun

I do get some spit back, but nothing that really messes with me...maybe a pop here and there. My coils are not compressed or tension coils either...and as the coil breaks in most spit back disappears. I just took a vape and squonked at the same time and that's about what it takes to get any real spit back. This coil is about 5 days old now.

I think you ought to send that Nuppin down here and let me see if there really is a spitback issue

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I do get some spit back, but nothing that really messes with me...maybe a pop here and there. My coils are not compressed or tension coils either...and as the coil breaks in most spit back disappears. I just took a vape and squonked at the same time and that's about what it takes to get any real spit back. This coil is about 5 days old now.

I think you ought to send that Nuppin down here and let me see if there really is a spitback issue

Hehe, I would but I'm keepin the Nupnup homie I'll probably try to score a second one from the next run. I like the Odin better so far but this is cool and I like how lightweight it is/the fact that it sits flush on the REO instead of overhanging. It's a great out-and-about atty. I do recommend you try to pick one up next run bro. It's a cool little atty with an interesting concept - you can tell this was designed by a bottomfeeding freak. That said I still don't like the design, but I can put up with it for how cool an atty and great flavor it offers.