odd question... Are there Carbs in vaping?

[alisa1970]

My step father used to say "ignorance is bliss". That was his approach to some minor back pain. Turns out it was kidney cancer that ended up killing him. Never stay ignorant about your health. It could cause irreversible damage.

It only takes one person to start a revolution.

Agreed. It can be difficult to find the information you need. There are far too many whacko health sites on the web.

Thanks both of you - my doctor and I are keeping an eye on it - the supplement is a prescription neutraceutical. Getting the autoimmunity under control and the meds I'm taking for the main problem *should* resolve it. If not, it's likely type 1.5 and I'll likely end up on insulin regardless of how we try to control it.

 

[e-pipeman]

Thanks both of you - my doctor and I are keeping an eye on it - the supplement is a prescription neutraceutical. Getting the autoimmunity under control and the meds I'm taking for the main problem *should* resolve it. If not, it's likely type 1.5 and I'll likely end up on insulin regardless of how we try to control it.

If you can avoid insulin and go with metformin and a low carb diet then go for that. Insulin will immediately increase your weight. This is unhelpful imho. Good luck!

 

[TheRac25]

not a doctor and i know next to nothing about diabetes but i would think inhaling burning plants and paper would be far more dangerous to your health than the tiny amount of vg/pg/sweetener you may ingest from vaping

 

[ian91]

I am a type-2 diabetic and have been vaping 60/40 juice for 8+ months now. I have had no ill effects from vaping and all of my test results have stayed at or below the levels they were before I took up vaping.

 

[Chas F.]

Congrats on making the healthier choice Mogar. I'm a type 1.5 and quit smoke just shy of 1 year ago. I did not notice an increase in BG as a result of vaping, but I started regular exercise and eating clean at the same time. I read a report that stated that nicotine itself can increase bg levels so be aware that if you are vaping more than you smoked it might have an effect.

When I started vaping, I was advised to start at 9 nic but chose to start at 6 because I suspected I'd vape more than I smoked. I was right. I now vape much less than when I started (down to ~2ml day) but increased by nic to 10-12.

 

[ian91]

I smoked 2+ packs a day when I quit after 50 years. I started at 18mg and am trying out 6mg now. Think it should be fine. I want to get down to 3mg but will wait a few more months to try it out. I think that much of the addiction to smoking is the act of smoking itself. Vaping allows us to retain that part of it so I think most people should be able to wean themselves off nicotine or at least seriously reduce their dependency on nicotine over time. I know that if I am sitting in a 3 hour meeting now, I can deal with it a lot better than I could when I was smoking.

 

[alisa1970]

If you can avoid insulin and go with metformin and a low carb diet then go for that. Insulin will immediately increase your weight. This is unhelpful imho. Good luck!

Have been eating 70 fat/20 protein/20 carbs since I was diagnosed w/Hashimoto's almost year ago...and am only about 20lbs overweight (due to undiagnosed Hashi's), eat NO refined sugar (pretty much Paleo/Primal), but doesn't seem to affect the BS. We shall see! Thank you.

 

[e-pipeman]

Have been eating 70/20/20 since before I was diagnosed w/Hashimoto's...and am only about 20lbs overweight (due to undiagnosed Hashi's), eat NO refined sugar, but doesn't seem to affect the BS. We shall see! Thank you.

When you say Hashimoto do you mean hypothyroid? Levothyroxine would be the answer, perhaps?

 

[alisa1970]

When you say Hashimoto do you mean hypothyroid? Levothyroxine would be the answer, perhaps?

I'm on Nature-Throid (natural dessicated thyroid) a combination T4/T3 med. Like Armour, if you have heard of it. Levo is T4 only, and many Hashi's patients don't convert T4 to the active T3 well. Also a MTHFR defect (cannot process B vitamins or folic acid), so these may be a big reason for my bs imbalances. As I said, we are working on it and at least now I am losing some weight. A1C was middle of May, and we just discovered MTHFR about a month ago. Am on an aggressive methylation protocol now.

 

[e-pipeman]

I'm on Nature-Throid (natural dessicated thyroid) a combination T4/T3 med. Like Armour, if you have heard of it. Levo is T4 only, and many Hashi's patients don't convert T4 to the active T3 well. Also a MTHFR defect (cannot process B vitamins or folic acid), so these may be a big reason for my bs imbalances. As I said, we are working on it and at least now I am losing some weight. A1C was middle of May, and we just discovered MTHFR about a month ago. Am on an aggressive methylation protocol now.

Well, good luck with it - and a happy 4th July too,

 

[alisa1970]

Well, good luck with it - and a happy 4th July too,

Thank you!

 

[DoubleEdge]

When you say Hashimoto do you mean hypothyroid? Levothyroxine would be the answer, perhaps?

Two different things. Hashimoto's is an immune disorder. One of its symptoms is hypothyroid, but you don't need Hashimoto's to have hypothyroid.

(I'm hypothyroid, my sister has Hashimoto's, I don't but we both take Levo. My son is T1 diabetic. Ah, immuno-disorders)

 

[Mogar]

Just as an update.
I conducted an experiment. I am attached to a CGM (Constant Glucose Monitoring system) that measures my BGL every 5 minutes. I maintained a very strict diet for a day to maintain a very flat 110 BGL level using the CGM and finger stick check 8 times throughout the day, I had a 5 point variance throughout the day. The following day I did the same, with one difference. I vaped as I saw fit. The BGL levels did change slightly +3% over what was done the day previous.
As I am not willing to eat a very closely guarded diet for more than 2 days I stopped. I could try to do this for a week as a baseline and another week as the test (which would be more scientific), however the food I ate to maintain a flat level is boring and does nothing to sedate my palate.
I figure a 3% margin is not harmful and I can increase my basal rate by .03 to compensate through my insulin pump. However if I go for a few hours without it, my sugar levels would drop.
The doc said (he is a mod fanatic himself) that it could actually be (as someone posted above) psychosomatic. He suggested not adjusting the pump to cover it, but to increase (slightly) my bolus for meals to cover the increase.

Sorry to those non-diabetics for the terms used above if you do not understand them.
LATA for 12 years
Pump user for 1 year
H31A of 6.8 (Im working on that = goal of 6.0)
Smoker for 20+ years.
Quit analog for Vape 3 months....