Ody Post looks like its corroding
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its not corrosion my friend bf. Its the brass under the nickel plating. The nickel goes off where o-rings sits because o-ring keeps tight the center pin and while you screw unscrew the ceramic housing against the base the o-ring "eats" every time a little the nickel.
Is it food grade brass on these parts imeo and can I ask why they are not made of ss like the rest ?
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Imeo can respond in a more technical manner but until then...
The Ody post being made of brass produces better connectivity. Thanks to my wife (long story in an old post when it happened), the nickle on my first Ody post was stripped completely while cleaning it on first use. At that time there were no spares but until Imeo could make spares, I continued to be able to use it.Reason being is that the spots of wear mentioned (or completely naked in my case) are covered by other pieces (nuts, washers, o-rings, etc.) so no real contact with the juice you are vaping. Yes, I replaced my naked one as soon as a spare was available but haven't since and it is used daily.
Imeo at one point was making all contact points of stainless in current to the time GG devices but 403/404 stainless steel simply isn't a good enough conductor of current to be used instead of the nickle plated brass.
its very difficult to make an SS pin Bub. It has 3x0,5 threads outside and 1,5mm hole inside and its very long. This piece breaks on machines every time we try to make it from SS. But I am buying a new machine now that will be able to make those small parts from SS. It will be here in about 2 months so the most posssible is that Ithaka will have an SS pin
The contuctivity is an issue too as Major said. But in Ithaka the contacting post is brass if you remember the video. So we can have an SS pin with brass contact to cover both worlds
The contuctivity is an issue too as Major said. But in Ithaka the contacting post is brass if you remember the video. So we can have an SS pin with brass contact to cover both worlds
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Imeo can respond in a more technical manner but until then...
Reason being is that the spots of wear mentioned (or completely naked in my case) are covered by other pieces (nuts, washers, o-rings, etc.) so no real contact with the juice you are vaping. Yes, I replaced my naked one as soon as a spare was available but haven't since and it is used daily.
Imeo at one point was making all contact points of stainless in current to the time GG devices but 403/404 stainless steel simply isn't a good enough conductor of current to be used instead of the nickle plated brass.
Hi Major,
I think I remember when it happened, you were cleaning it and you drop it inside a glass with water and lemon juice? (you didn't know that there was lemon juice inside)
pb exists on brass at 2% bf. That means that even if lead leach from a so small surface the result is no harmful. Imagine that people are making mouthpieces from brass where a big amount of brass was inside out mouth. Also we whittled those mouthpieces for many hours per day and also we scratch them with our teeth. Nothing of those things is happening to the pin of Ody. Also the place where brass is exposed is covered by the o-ring
Imeo,
I guess I do have one more concern on the flaking of the plating even beyond the place where the o-ring is seated. If you look at the photo's you will see it is all the way up the post. This would have to be migrating into the juice and that can not be good.
I guess I do have one more concern on the flaking of the plating even beyond the place where the o-ring is seated. If you look at the photo's you will see it is all the way up the post. This would have to be migrating into the juice and that can not be good.
nickel is not harmful for our bodies exept you have an allergy bf. Nickel is everywhere and especially on food and water. We take small quantities of it every day. The most common harmful health effect of nickel in humans is an allergic reaction. So if you are not allergic to nickel then you dont have to worry. But even if you were allergic, you had to touch it first to see any possible effect. Skin is sensitive to nickel.
The quantity of nickel that exists on Ody's pin is minimum comparing to what quantities we take to our body from food, water and air
The quantity of nickel that exists on Ody's pin is minimum comparing to what quantities we take to our body from food, water and air
Chemical pneumonitis and acute lung injury caused by inhalation of nickel fumes.
Kunimasa K, Arita M, Tachibana H, Tsubouchi K, Konishi S, Korogi Y, Nishiyama A, Ishida T.
Source
Department of Respiratory Medicine, Kurashiki Central Hospital, Japan. kk11900@kchnet.or.jp
Abstract
A 50-year-old man with a 30-year occupational history of welding presented with low-grade fever, fatigue and persistent dry cough. Computed tomography (CT) of the chest revealed interlobular septal thickening and bilateral non-segmental patchy ground-glass opacities except in the sub-pleural zone. He revealed that he had inhaled nickel fumes 3 days previously at work. These findings suggested a diagnosis of pneumonitis induced by inhalation of nickel fumes. Fewer reports describe pneumonitis associated with the inhalation of nickel compared with zinc fumes. Although nickel compounds are particularly pernicious among the transition metals and more toxic than zinc compounds, nickel fume inhalation rarely induces lethal acute respiratory distress syndrome. Our patient was successfully treated with corticosteroid.
B-Acute Nickel Pneumonitis :
Accidental inhalation of metallic nickel particles can cause pneumonitis. For example, a welder died from acute respiratory distress syndrome after inhalation of a finely particulate nickel fume that was produced by a metal arc-welding process.
C-Acute Toxicity from Divalent Nickel :
Acute Ni2+ toxicity occurred when 32 electroplating workers accidently drank water contaminated with NiSO4 and NiCl2. Twenty of the workers promptly developed symptoms :
-nausea,
-vomiting,
-abdominal discomfort,
-........,
-giddiness,
-lassitude,
-headache,
-cough,
-shortness of breath,
that generally ceased within a few hours, but symptoms persisted for 1-2 days in seven cases.
In the workers with symptoms, the estimated nickel doses ranged from approximately 0.5-2.5 g.
All subjects recovered rapidly, without evident sequellae, and returned to work by the 8th day after exposure.
Kunimasa K, Arita M, Tachibana H, Tsubouchi K, Konishi S, Korogi Y, Nishiyama A, Ishida T.
Source
Department of Respiratory Medicine, Kurashiki Central Hospital, Japan. kk11900@kchnet.or.jp
Abstract
A 50-year-old man with a 30-year occupational history of welding presented with low-grade fever, fatigue and persistent dry cough. Computed tomography (CT) of the chest revealed interlobular septal thickening and bilateral non-segmental patchy ground-glass opacities except in the sub-pleural zone. He revealed that he had inhaled nickel fumes 3 days previously at work. These findings suggested a diagnosis of pneumonitis induced by inhalation of nickel fumes. Fewer reports describe pneumonitis associated with the inhalation of nickel compared with zinc fumes. Although nickel compounds are particularly pernicious among the transition metals and more toxic than zinc compounds, nickel fume inhalation rarely induces lethal acute respiratory distress syndrome. Our patient was successfully treated with corticosteroid.
B-Acute Nickel Pneumonitis :
Accidental inhalation of metallic nickel particles can cause pneumonitis. For example, a welder died from acute respiratory distress syndrome after inhalation of a finely particulate nickel fume that was produced by a metal arc-welding process.
C-Acute Toxicity from Divalent Nickel :
Acute Ni2+ toxicity occurred when 32 electroplating workers accidently drank water contaminated with NiSO4 and NiCl2. Twenty of the workers promptly developed symptoms :
-nausea,
-vomiting,
-abdominal discomfort,
-........,
-giddiness,
-lassitude,
-headache,
-cough,
-shortness of breath,
that generally ceased within a few hours, but symptoms persisted for 1-2 days in seven cases.
In the workers with symptoms, the estimated nickel doses ranged from approximately 0.5-2.5 g.
All subjects recovered rapidly, without evident sequellae, and returned to work by the 8th day after exposure.
I can post several sites that says that inhaling oxidised steel mesh can cause siderosis bf. I can also post links that shows where nickel exists and how we inhale it every day. Dont panic!!
To have symptoms from nickel or any other material you have to inhale or eat it very big quantities. For example, 2,5 gr of nickel is a huge amount of material and it was inhaled in a very short time. That caused the symptoms.
To have symptoms from nickel or any other material you have to inhale or eat it very big quantities. For example, 2,5 gr of nickel is a huge amount of material and it was inhaled in a very short time. That caused the symptoms.
plating is something that I dont like, thats why I stopped plating GGTS. Also I stopped plating every item on every GG construction bf. Thats the nature of plating and painting. And thats why I never paint any GG item, not even a tube
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