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I will answer to you after knut's suggestions negrete. Answer is easy but lets wait for knut first
Thats easy Imeo, DO MORE! We all know that you dont really do much.
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I don't know why my meter wasn't working
Lets try again
Maybe they are disciplines in your country.
Also, ask Germans, most influential in philosophy in 20th century. They and their educational system would not agree with you
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Also, ask Germans, most influential in philosophy in 20th century. They and their educational system would not agree with you
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ok, lets ask vaporeta about this. Hei buddy, what are your suggestions about GG production?
Well that´s a problem you should think about and try to solve if you are interested in. I think waiting for more than 3 months is really dangerous because people can move to another product and if there are people ready to spend money there will be people ready to offer the products they are looking for, and I´m not talking about trash but about quality products. You know that mechanical products are easy to imitate but they are also easy to transform in a way that they couldn´t be exactly called a copy and it can be done not only by chinese people.
As Knut said in another message some people are begining to sell to this group of customers that want quality stuff. Look at Russia, for instance. There are a lot of people waiting for a russian product (I don´t say the name for not giving publicity) and it is going to be out in a few days.
The solution: Trying to produce more to retain your customers and get new ones. But its up to you to decide if you want to do it or not, as at the end it´s your bussiness. I don´t know the way you can increase production but I think in Europe you will be able to find factories to do so and with quality.
The problem Imeo is that if you don´t provide customers with a product somebody else will do and customers will buy it and sooner or later will forget the previous one, that in economy is the substitution effect.
vaporeta, thats a nice post but you dont give me any real solution here. Better give solutions that complaining, right? And I will tell you what is going on with GG production line but first of all people cant forget the real thing as you said. Real thing made its name and also its always updated so people will not go to copiers.
As for the production: I have already 10 cnc machines, that is the bigger number of machines of all other modders. But why I cant make more products? Its because they are difficult to be made. Complicated devices, with many and difficult parts. If I make a simple tube with 2 caps and you think that you will buy it then I will do it like this. But you will not buy it, you want the best, yes?
2. Big quantity will dramatically increase the production time. That means that if you are now waiting for 3 months then you will wait for 6 months and you dont want me to do that to you yes? You were the one that said that you cant wait and you will go and buy a copy
3. If I make big quantity you will lose the opportunity to taste quick my new inventions. Why? Because a) I will have no time for samples of a new GG and b) I will not make anything new until I sell all the old batch first.
4. If I send production to Europe or China I will not be able to control quality and if the batch is not good I will spend 2 months to make things right. If things dont get right, I will spend another 2 more months. As you see, if the factory is not in your neighborhood, things will be very difficult and you will wait way more than 3 months (that is already big time for you as you said).
Do you think that I dont want to make bigger batches? But be sure that bigger batches will not meet your needs. Time is precious and we have to think of new things ASAP. No reason to stuck on older models. Dont you prefere to vape on dual Ithaka instead of Ody? Dont you like UFS better than AVS and AVS better than the first tank that I made 3 years ago? Dont you prefere to vape on GGTS than Grant?
Finally, why do you need bigger batches when we have the preorder system?
As for the production: I have already 10 cnc machines, that is the bigger number of machines of all other modders. But why I cant make more products? Its because they are difficult to be made. Complicated devices, with many and difficult parts. If I make a simple tube with 2 caps and you think that you will buy it then I will do it like this. But you will not buy it, you want the best, yes?
2. Big quantity will dramatically increase the production time. That means that if you are now waiting for 3 months then you will wait for 6 months and you dont want me to do that to you yes? You were the one that said that you cant wait and you will go and buy a copy
3. If I make big quantity you will lose the opportunity to taste quick my new inventions. Why? Because a) I will have no time for samples of a new GG and b) I will not make anything new until I sell all the old batch first.
4. If I send production to Europe or China I will not be able to control quality and if the batch is not good I will spend 2 months to make things right. If things dont get right, I will spend another 2 more months. As you see, if the factory is not in your neighborhood, things will be very difficult and you will wait way more than 3 months (that is already big time for you as you said).
Do you think that I dont want to make bigger batches? But be sure that bigger batches will not meet your needs. Time is precious and we have to think of new things ASAP. No reason to stuck on older models. Dont you prefere to vape on dual Ithaka instead of Ody? Dont you like UFS better than AVS and AVS better than the first tank that I made 3 years ago? Dont you prefere to vape on GGTS than Grant?
Finally, why do you need bigger batches when we have the preorder system?
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Well Svoe Mesto thats a different product for sure. On this way all tank mods is copies
. Here we discuss copy of gg. To be clear.
imeo.. even before the king of the modder, a man of rare intelligence, wit and courtesy..
I understand you perfectly well but I´ll tell you something. In Spain we have got an example it´s called Amancio Ortega. In 1975 he opened his first shop Zara in a small city in Spain now he is the biggest fortune in Europe and the third in the world. But as he said he took risks and he was surrended by a good team because he couldn´t be everywhere.
When I read you I think you are really lucky man because you have got a fantastic product (something that most businessman haven´t) but you don´t talk like a bussinessman you talk as if you were producing homemade stuff for a group of friends in your house. A businessman wouldn´t understand you if you told him that you can´t produce more. If you have a good product and you have the customers the rest is the smallest problem
Well that´s only my opinion. If you want to jump out at the business world depends on you.
But I am and I feel exactly like this vaporeta. An amateur maker who loves his work, an e-cig lover with apettite to bring the best in the market and to drive the e-cig world. I dont want to be a businesman, I dont want to make factories, I want to just make the best.
I hope that you understand now why we dont agree for 2 days. Because you have something else in your mind.
ps....... But I am a businessman too if you think that I have 10 cnc machines that work for me. Do you know any other modder with 10 cnc machines around?
I hope that you understand now why we dont agree for 2 days. Because you have something else in your mind.
ps....... But I am a businessman too if you think that I have 10 cnc machines that work for me. Do you know any other modder with 10 cnc machines around?
Imeo, I have a suggestion too and please tell me why it won't work. I already know that it won't work, or you would have already done it. LOL
You say that you have 10 cnc machines (I do not even know what that means, but that's ok). I am thinking that these are the machines that help the operators make all the bits and pieces.
kk here is the suggestion. What about if you purchased 1 or maybe 2 more of these (I already am thinking they are incredibly expensive) and you have 1 or maybe two of these machines that are just used for making bits and pieces and parts of things that your customers are needing for units they already own. Maybe one of these machines would be good for that. Just for that, running all the time.
now, I am thinking...... you may not have room in your facility for other machines, they are much too expensive, or you cannot afford to have your operators all the time on bits and pieces.
anyway, that is my suggestion. LOL
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Morri
You say that you have 10 cnc machines (I do not even know what that means, but that's ok). I am thinking that these are the machines that help the operators make all the bits and pieces.
kk here is the suggestion. What about if you purchased 1 or maybe 2 more of these (I already am thinking they are incredibly expensive) and you have 1 or maybe two of these machines that are just used for making bits and pieces and parts of things that your customers are needing for units they already own. Maybe one of these machines would be good for that. Just for that, running all the time.
now, I am thinking...... you may not have room in your facility for other machines, they are much too expensive, or you cannot afford to have your operators all the time on bits and pieces.
anyway, that is my suggestion. LOL
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Morri
And something else vaporeta. Have you seen anyone else that tries to keep small the length of his constructions? I was pushing my head all the time to save 1 mm from the length of Ody and penelope before bring it in the market and at the same time to make it fit more liquid. Finally penelope fits 3ml of liquid, it has liquid control, its thin and only at 47mm in length!
All the above cant be done without too much effort. I could make a 10mm taller penelope. It would be nice, yes? But this 1cm more annoys me. GG constructions have to be just perfect from all angles
All the above cant be done without too much effort. I could make a 10mm taller penelope. It would be nice, yes? But this 1cm more annoys me. GG constructions have to be just perfect from all angles
And Zara is just average quality product.
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