Odysseus official

[SuperSonic]

Just found Rick's "The Kiln Master's" post on the same issue I'm currently experiencing. Additionally I just found the Odysseus Leakage thread. Also going to apply some of Mr K's advice with some extra lube on the 1.78 X1.78 O-ring.

Currently still reading posts as my Ody is waiting to be assembled for the 6th time.....

Man.... I hope this works.....

 

[SuperSonic]

Update: (Leaking Odysseus in Full Mode)

Good news... so far so good!
Haven't had any leaks in Full Mode in over 4 1/2 hours. Although it's only the first tank fill with the new Ody mods its still encouraging.

Here's what I did.

Disassembled the entire device including Odysseus completely including O-rings.

Cleaned all the pieces and soaked all the O-rings in warm-hot water for about 15 minutes or so.

Put in a brand new ceramic (burned it anyway, just in case)

Cut 1 piece of 1.5mm Stock Ody Wick at twice the length. (Doubled the wick (looped at one end and left it that way) Doubled the length) The wick doubled, reaches from below the center post lower O-ring on both sides after draping it over the ceramic. It will sit at the very bottom of the Ody GGTS Base.

Basted every O-ring in vaseline. Then vaselined all the fitting threads.

Built my coil. Wrapped one side of the NR (silver) wire (as Imeo suggested in another post) around one side of the doubled wick approximately 3/4 mm above the ceramic channel base, then tucked into the channel neatly. (Leaving the NR wire inside the knurled lock ring completely and inside the Ody GGTS base when the atomizer is completely screwed in), continued screwing the atomizer all the way in then attached the other side NR (silver) wired to the center post.

Now I attached and screwed the knurled lock ring on, good and tight. (No wires between the lock ring and atomizer base)

Something I discovered while cleaning all the pieces.... after washing, then drying each piece, I was lubing with vaseline and using a q-tip for the deeper threads..... while cleaning the long mode mouth piece a 1/2" piece of thread bur fell out of the mouthpiece on to my towel. This was long enough and thick enough to create seating issues between the mouthpiece (full mode) and the knurled lock ring.

I reassembled the rest of the device and Ody in Full mode and didn't connect Ody just yet. I filled Ody about 1/2mm at a clip and waited for leaking. None.

Completely filled Ody, then sealed with the O-rings and top cap. No leaks. I covered the mouthpiece hole and center post hole and shook Ody for a minute or so and let it sit. No leaks.

I blew down the mouthpiece through the center post for a few seconds, a few times.... No leaks.

I attached to the device, adjusted as needed and after about 1ML of juice.... No leaks..... anywhere.

I removed Ody and checked the collection tank... no leaks and Ody did not leak when removed.

Then I got a little daring (crossed my fingers) and opened the juice flow control, first just a crack..... no leaks... then a full 1 1/2 turns to see if it would leak or flood. Nothing... No leaks, no flooding.

Anyway... so far.... so good.

I'll update again in a few days if no leaking still or sooner if I discover any leaking.

HTH those who may still be having leaking issues with Ody in Full mode or any mode.

Peace-

 

[CaptSteve]

SuperSonic, the Ody does not have any leaking issues. I have personally tested it under conditions which your average person will never face. The only issues were due to user errors in assembly. I read your post and obviously what you experienced was due to the piece of thread burr in the mouthpiece. It is always advisable when you receive new GG items to clean properly before use to remove not only oil residues from manufacture but also even burrs cause by machining

 

[SuperSonic]

Thanks Steve....

Yes, I did clean the unit when I received it. Apparently that thread bur was holding on deep up top towards the underside of the stem and it tried to go unnoticed. It wasn't until after multiple soakings and cleanings (getting the juice baths off) did the bur reveal itself, by way of lubing the threads with vaseline and a Q-tip, but I don't believe it was the sole issue. I lost over 8ML of juice in no time at all the center post only. There was no leaking from the tank(s), O-ring fittings or elsewhere..... only the center post. It was driving me nuts.

Not to debate you Steve, but I'm going to have to disagree with your post advising Odysseus doesn't leak as I experienced a messy leaking issue upon multiple cleanings and assemblies which was not due to improper assembly (user error), but rather a few variable circumstances, and found I was not the only one. I understand you've done altitude tests and pressure tests with your Ody (I read your posts) I'm just saying that if more than quite a few people are experiencing the same exact issues that there may just be a problem that deserves looking into.

I'm just saying dude....

As read in these threads:

As OP'd by Imeo
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/262649-odysseus-leakage.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/270347-frustrated.html

Pretty much these two threads were all I needed to kick start my resolve. There was more information I did find on the topic, as well as videos put out by Imeo to address this specific issue. Not everyone achieved the same results (from the prior posts) but most, if not all had their Ody leaking issues resolved.

Thank for reading Steve.... I always appreciate your input.

Peace-

 

[bapgood]

My questions are not solely for the Odysseus but since it goes with the GG I figured this was the place. If not, I apologize and will re-post where I'm instructed.

First off the GG line of products seem to be high quality, which is what has brought me here. But I'm a little overwhelmed trying to figure out just what is what today. With all the acronyms (AFS, AVS, UFS, etc) and all of them listed in the manual I found, yet none of them seem to apply anymore.

I want to apologize, I have not gone through all 401 pages of this thread.

However I have done some research, and seeing that neither the GG or Odysseus is going to be available for a couple of months I have some time before I have to commit.

Questions:

- To my understanding the GG is a battery tube with collector tank and air adjust (over simplified). The Odysseus is a rebuild-able atty tank system with flow adjust (again over simplified). So when they become available a GG Telescopic Storm or GGTS and a Odysseus would give me - rebuild-able atty, air and liquid adjust, collection tank, battery tube....Basically I would need to build and install the atty coil/wick, install battery, add juice, and vape.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

- I'm a little confused with the collection tank.
How do you vape from the collection tank when it's below the atty?
How does the collection tank not leak when it has holes in it to let air through? (at least it looks like it in the manual, but I may be looking at it wrong or an old version)

- Is there any type of a pass through?

- Would the GGTS be compatible with the EvolV Kick?

I really like the adjustability, rebuild-able atty, and some of the other great features, especially no leaking and the ability to close both air and liquid passages. Just want to make sure I'm totally understanding what is what, and what I need.

A little bum hurt that I will have to wait until June or so to make the leap

Thanks Bradey

 

[Kingzkross]

Questions:

- To my understanding the GG is a battery tube with collector tank and air adjust (over simplified). The Odysseus is a rebuild-able atty tank system with flow adjust (again over simplified). So when they become available a GG Telescopic Storm or GGTS and a Odysseus would give me - rebuild-able atty, air and liquid adjust, collection tank, battery tube....Basically I would need to build and install the atty coil/wick, install battery, add juice, and vape.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

- I'm a little confused with the collection tank.
How do you vape from the collection tank when it's below the atty?
How does the collection tank not leak when it has holes in it to let air through? (at least it looks like it in the manual, but I may be looking at it wrong or an old version)

- Is there any type of a pass through?

- Would the GGTS be compatible with the EvolV Kick?

I really like the adjustability, rebuild-able atty, and some of the other great features, especially no leaking and the ability to close both air and liquid passages. Just want to make sure I'm totally understanding what is what, and what I need.

A little bum hurt that I will have to wait until June or so to make the leap

Thanks Bradey

Question 1: That is correct.

Question 2: The collection tank isn't used as a tank per say. Its more of a tank that collects any excess juice that would have overflowed if you were using a standard dripping atty. With the ody there shouldn't be any juice getting into the collection tank, since the ody will not leak if made properly.

Question 3: I believe there once was a passthrough for the GGTS, but it isn't being made anymore.

Question 4: The GGTS is compatible with the kick. See link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/277537-kicked-18350-ggts-odysseus.html

 

[The Yeti]

Thanks Steve....

Yes, I did clean the unit when I received it. Apparently that thread bur was holding on deep up top towards the underside of the stem and it tried to go unnoticed. It wasn't until after multiple soakings and cleanings (getting the juice baths off) did the bur reveal itself, by way of lubing the threads with vaseline and a Q-tip, but I don't believe it was the sole issue. I lost over 8ML of juice in no time at all the center post only. There was no leaking from the tank(s), O-ring fittings or elsewhere..... only the center post. It was driving me nuts.

Not to debate you Steve, but I'm going to have to disagree with your post advising Odysseus doesn't leak as I experienced a messy leaking issue upon multiple cleanings and assemblies which was not due to improper assembly (user error), but rather a few variable circumstances, and found I was not the only one. I understand you've done altitude tests and pressure tests with your Ody (I read your posts) I'm just saying that if more than quite a few people are experiencing the same exact issues that there may just be a problem that deserves looking into.

I'm just saying dude....

As read in these threads:

As OP'd by Imeo
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/262649-odysseus-leakage.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/270347-frustrated.html

Pretty much these two threads were all I needed to kick start my resolve. There was more information I did find on the topic, as well as videos put out by Imeo to address this specific issue. Not everyone achieved the same results (from the prior posts) but most, if not all had their Ody leaking issues resolved.

Thank for reading Steve.... I always appreciate your input.

Peace-

SuperSonic,

I've had the exact same experience as you and have come to the conclusion that the leaking in big mode (and in short mode, to a much lesser extent) is due to the ground wire being trapped under the knurled nut. This creates a very small space for niquid to get through.

There must be something that changes drastically when switching from short mode to big mode - I don't know what that is exactly, could be internal pressure or just the added weight of the juice (although I get most of my leaking in big mode when the juice level is below half). This perplexes me.

I'm going to try your solution tonight (no neg wire under nut) and will report back!

 

[SuperSonic]

My questions are not solely for the Odysseus .......

Question 1: That is correct.

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Bradley.... as well as the information supplied by King ... there are a multitude of Wikis that may answer some questions for you and give you breakdowns of each piece in diagram form.

You can begin here:

http://ggwiki.et.com.mx/index.php/Main_Page

HTH

Peace-

 

[SuperSonic]

SuperSonic,

I've had the exact same experience as you and have come to the conclusion that the leaking in big mode (and in short mode, to a much lesser extent) is due to the ground wire being trapped under the knurled nut. This creates a very small space for niquid to get through.

There must be something that changes drastically when switching from short mode to big mode - I don't know what that is exactly, could be internal pressure or just the added weight of the juice (although I get most of my leaking in big mode when the juice level is below half). This perplexes me.

I'm going to try your solution tonight (no neg wire under nut) and will report back!

Definitely Yeti ..... do it note for note what I posted. I went through six processes along with trying most others work around.

Thus far I have had exceptional results and still no leaking, no flooding when I crank the juice flow even more than 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 turns.

I'm truly Amped with the results I've gotten thus far.

Definitely post back..... I'm curious as to your results. We can get you Rockin' and Rollin' without the leakage... I'm confident!!

Good luck in your trials....

Peace-

 

[eyebrook]

SuperSonic, the Ody does not have any leaking issues. I have personally tested it under conditions which your average person will never face. The only issues were due to user errors in assembly. I read your post and obviously what you experienced was due to the piece of thread burr in the mouthpiece. It is always advisable when you receive new GG items to clean properly before use to remove not only oil residues from manufacture but also even burrs cause by machining

So burrs and machine detritus are user errors now and not quality control

 

[SAX]

Well.........the user didn't fix it...so YES

 

[bapgood]

Bradley.... as well as the information supplied by King ... there are a multitude of Wikis that may answer some questions for you and give you breakdowns of each piece in diagram form.

You can begin here:

http://ggwiki.et.com.mx/index.php/Main_Page

HTH

Peace-

Super,
No offense to you or the people contributing to the wiki or the other documentation, but I did go through the wiki/manual/forums/videos/etc/etc. None of which (IMHO) clearly define "what is what", where it is used, etc. There are tons of pictures of the GG in various configurations and very little definition of what is used and why.

IMHO the people who have a GG and can take it apart and who have watched the GG evolve would have a lot better understanding and the documentation would make more sense.

To someone who has never seen one other than in pics and video on the web it seems pretty confusing.

Sorry if I interrupted your argument or posted some brainless questions. I'm just trying to get an understanding of the product, which I thought was what this thread was for???

I will admit I did not look into the compatibility of the kick. As versatile as the GG is I assumed it would work, but figured it was worth asking.

Bradey (Bradley works also)

 

[bapgood]

Question 1: That is correct.

Question 2: The collection tank isn't used as a tank per say. Its more of a tank that collects any excess juice that would have overflowed if you were using a standard dripping atty. With the ody there shouldn't be any juice getting into the collection tank, since the ody will not leak if made properly.

Question 3: I believe there once was a passthrough for the GGTS, but it isn't being made anymore.

Question 4: The GGTS is compatible with the kick. See link http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/277537-kicked-18350-ggts-odysseus.html

King,
Thanks for your clear and concise reply!

Bradey

 

[echos67]

Bradey, your posts are helping me and like you, I hope to join the kids with a gg device soon too.

 

[bapgood]

Bradley, your posts are helping me and like you, I hope to join the kids with a gg device soon too.

Echos,
Great to hear! Thought I was going to have to start riding the short bus.....maybe we both will

Bradey

 

[SuperSonic]

Super,
No offense to you or the people contributing to the wiki or the other documentation, but I did go through the wiki/manual/forums/videos/etc/etc. None of which (IMHO) clearly define "what is what", where it is used, etc. There are tons of pictures of the GG in various configurations and very little definition of what is used and why.

IMHO the people who have a GG and can take it apart and who have watched the GG evolve would have a lot better understanding and the documentation would make more sense.

To someone who has never seen one other than in pics and video on the web it seems pretty confusing.

Sorry if I interrupted your argument or posted some brainless questions. I'm just trying to get an understanding of the product, which I thought was what this thread was for???

I will admit I did not look into the compatibility of the kick. As versatile as the GG is I assumed it would work, but figured it was worth asking.

Bradey (Bradley works also)

Brad, no offense taken on my behalf whatsoever.

The Wiki is a good place to start looking for information and sometimes it's all the information you need, especially for a noob fresh on the scene. It's a good place to gather information.

That's too bad you couldn't seem to find exactly what you were looking for, but you were probably exposed to the answers of other questions you will most likely have as you continue your search.

Argument? I wasn't aware that I was having one....no questions are really brainless unless one intends them to be that way..... and no you certainly did not interrupt me.

Good luck in you quest for information you are looking for Brad...

Peace-

 

[bapgood]

Brad, no offense taken on my behalf whatsoever.

The Wiki is a good place to start looking for information and sometimes it's all the information you need, especially for a noob fresh on the scene. It's a good place to gather information.

That's too bad you couldn't seem to find exactly what you were looking for, but you were probably exposed to the answers of other questions you will most likely have as you continue your search.

Argument? I wasn't aware that I was having one....no questions are really brainless unless one intends them to be that way..... and no you certainly did not interrupt me.

Good luck in you quest for information you are looking for Brad...

Peace-

I guess I should clarify.

I am by no means insinuating there is a lack of information! There is a ton of info, but it seems to be all lumped together and its hard for someone new to the GG (or at least me) to determine what is the latest/what I will get if I order the latest GG. I think its great that they keep legacy information up for people to reference.

The US supplier shows a picture without any kind of atty or tank, however the manual and most of the documentation on the wiki shows a complete unit. Just an example.

Bradey

 

[SuperSonic]

I guess I should clarify.
The US supplier shows a picture without any kind of atty or tank, however the manual and most of the documentation on the wiki shows a complete unit. Just an example.

Bradey

Oh, now I see where your frustrations lie.

Perhaps I can help you... while I'm on the thread, what additional questions did you have (limit 5 - ) so make 'em good ones.... lol

Yes, the GG device (Stealth / Telescopic Storm) I believe you are referring to on the site I believe you are referring to (COV - Clouds of Vapor) has the device listed on the site without an atomizer (coil / wick) cart, flux, clearomizer or tank, not to give the impression that the device sell with any of the above.

If you did read the GG Wiki.... you would have noticed in the legacy the GG Stealth / GGTS / SS GGTS (stainless steel version of the Telescoping Storm). On the specific page of the device you wish to inquire about you should have seen where it states that each device (above) is versatile to take multiple connections in the one device. That's alot of options.

If you would like to see almost the entire line of GG devices, visit the GG site and go to the gallery section which list many, many different combinations of devices.

I hear ya.... there are many aspects that are laid out in no particular order.... so you'll have to do your do diligence HAVE PATIENCE and put the information you are looking for together yourself.

HTH

Peace-

 

[bapgood]

Oh, now I see where your frustrations lie.

Perhaps I can help you... while I'm on the thread, what additional questions did you have (limit 5 - ) so make 'em good ones.... lol

Yes, the GG device (Stealth / Telescopic Storm) I believe you are referring to on the site I believe you are referring to (COV - Clouds of Vapor) has the device listed on the site without an atomizer (coil / wick) cart, flux, clearomizer or tank, not to give the impression that the device sell with any of the above.

If you did read the GG Wiki.... you would have noticed in the legacy the GG Stealth / GGTS / SS GGTS (stainless steel version of the Telescoping Storm). On the specific page of the device you wish to inquire about you should have seen where it states that each device (above) is versatile to take multiple connections in the one device. That's alot of options.

If you would like to see almost the entire line of GG devices, visit the GG site and go to the gallery section which list many, many different combinations of devices.

I hear ya.... there are many aspects that are laid out in no particular order.... so you'll have to do your do diligence HAVE PATIENCE and put the information you are looking for together yourself.

HTH

Peace-

Super,
Thanks, but I think I'm squared away for the moment. The legacy items aren't of real concern to me as they aren't offered any more. The Ody seems to only be offered in the short mode version, with either an expansion pack or individual pieces to achieve different configurations.

I was mainly trying to figure out what the GG came with and what in the manual was obsolete and replaced with the Ody, and I believe that has been answered.

Thanks Bradey

 

[SuperSonic]

Hey Bradey,

If its any consolation to ya' try checking out the classified section on the ECF forum for those selling something you may be looking for...... if its something you are interested in.

Peace-