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I asked many times about the same thing, even asked about bulk purchases and was told "No". I am now on my 10th 357 atty out of 12 since Jan 21st 2012, all the others are dead and I only have 2 left. As long as people keep buying them, I doubt they will put them on sale.
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Ok, I cleaned it out, banged it off a table, re primed it, and she is good to go. Thanks for the help guys!
2012 or course.No way can these atties last more than a few weeks.
All of mine have lasted MONTHS
Would you also happen to vape 8-10ml of Boba's or another dark juice per day? Once the residue builds up on the coil, there is absolutely nothing you can do to clean it and what good is atty that tastes bad?. All the alcohol washes in the world won't do it and I have even went as far as to try over cleaner, can tell you right now that it doesn't work.
If I were a light vaper of clear juices, I can make any atty or carto last me months. Anyone who strictly uses time to measure the atomizer's longevity is not telling a clear story.
The truth is, the HH.357's will not and cannot last long using any dark juice or one that is made with real tobacco.
See that 10ml syringe in the picture? I fill that every morning to fill whatever device I am going to use so I know exactly how much I consume daily. And yes, I vape strictly Boba's and purchase a 1000ml monthly.
I'm glad you clarified that - from your previous posts it sounded like you were saying these atties couldn't possibly work longer than a few days/weeks, which might turn some potential buyers off, which would be kind of bad for HH and Cisco I would think.
Personally, my HH 357 is going on a month or two now with no issues - but then I'm not soaking it in tobacco infused rubber cement 24 hours a day
edit: for the record - I do like boba's bounty and gorilla juice, I just don't vape them all the time. AVE makes some awesome stuff, but it does wreck cartos and atomizers.
Personally, my HH 357 is going on a month or two now with no issues - but then I'm not soaking it in tobacco infused rubber cement 24 hours a day
edit: for the record - I do like boba's bounty and gorilla juice, I just don't vape them all the time. AVE makes some awesome stuff, but it does wreck cartos and atomizers.
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I've been using mine for a just over a week now and I vape around 5ml/day of KBV - GBC exclusively. The stuff is like a syrup color when it's well steeped. I think tomorrow I may try a cleaning b/c the coil is getting pretty gunked up, which is muting the flavor a little.
i was really loving my Cisco LR 901 1.8 which i got before the HH357's were in stock, on my 3.7's (Mini Reo and eGo p/t) yow... but after a week, it's not the same atty... gotta be the juice. It still works, put it on my Provari VV, just to keep it as hot as it needs to be.
I vape Snickerdoodle, like Keith vapes Boba's ... gotta have it and plenty of it.
I don't think it's a bad as Boba's... is anything?
But it's not exactly clear either. No cinamon oil, but a water based cinamon goes in Snickerdoodle (wish there was an abrev. for that).
Anyway I have 4 HH357's coming; all 1.5's; 2 long barrel 510, and 2 x 901. First time.
I vape Snickerdoodle, like Keith vapes Boba's ... gotta have it and plenty of it.
I don't think it's a bad as Boba's... is anything?
But it's not exactly clear either. No cinamon oil, but a water based cinamon goes in Snickerdoodle (wish there was an abrev. for that).
Anyway I have 4 HH357's coming; all 1.5's; 2 long barrel 510, and 2 x 901. First time.
i use mrs ts strawberry shortcake which is kinda an orange color. i kinda fell for another of her juices and ordered a good size bottle. its chocolate fudge peanut butter brownie and it is much darker. im hoping it doesnt jack my 357 i have on the way.
Howzit again Ukeman, aloha bruddah !!!
Don't get me wrong though guys, the HH.357's are by far the cleanest tasting of all atties, just the cost of changing them once every 5-7 days can get very expensive.
If anyone is interested of what doesn't work to clean off the built up gunk on the coils, here a few of the techniques I have tried.
Steam cleaning with espresso machine. Doing this is good for sanitizing and removing most of flavor from an old juice. Does nothing to remove coil residue.
Soaking in 190 proof alcohol. Does pretty much the same thing as steaming with espresso machine. Basically nothing.
Soaking it overnight in oven cleaner ( tried both Easy Off and a CVS brand). Also tried Simple Green, leaves a nasty pine/lime fragrance behind. Used baking soda and Lemon/vinegar which again did nothing.
Also found a way to use the atty with tank, well sort of. I used a 510 to 510 extender and slid the tank down whenever was needed. It works just as long as you remember to keep lowering the tank to refill. Same principle as the drip sleeve, just holds way more juice.
Don't get me wrong though guys, the HH.357's are by far the cleanest tasting of all atties, just the cost of changing them once every 5-7 days can get very expensive.
If anyone is interested of what doesn't work to clean off the built up gunk on the coils, here a few of the techniques I have tried.
Steam cleaning with espresso machine. Doing this is good for sanitizing and removing most of flavor from an old juice. Does nothing to remove coil residue.
Soaking in 190 proof alcohol. Does pretty much the same thing as steaming with espresso machine. Basically nothing.
Soaking it overnight in oven cleaner ( tried both Easy Off and a CVS brand). Also tried Simple Green, leaves a nasty pine/lime fragrance behind. Used baking soda and Lemon/vinegar which again did nothing.
Also found a way to use the atty with tank, well sort of.
I used a 510 to 510 extender and slid the tank down whenever was needed. It works just as long as you remember to keep lowering the tank to refill. Same principle as the drip sleeve, just holds way more juice.
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mahalo Keith!
I guess that pretty debunks a lot of atty cleaning methods.
i always felt, even with dry burning, the atty was never up to par after.
that's why i bought a lot of bulk deals... and well, if HH357 is the best, you gotta "pay the cost" to be the boss.
this is gonna force me to rethink rebuildables - i just know it.
I guess that pretty debunks a lot of atty cleaning methods.
i always felt, even with dry burning, the atty was never up to par after.
that's why i bought a lot of bulk deals... and well, if HH357 is the best, you gotta "pay the cost" to be the boss.
this is gonna force me to rethink rebuildables - i just know it.
Would you also happen to vape 8-10ml of Boba's or another dark juice per day? Once the residue builds up on the coil, there is absolutely nothing you can do to clean it and what good is atty that tastes bad?. All the alcohol washes in the world won't do it and I have even went as far as to try over cleaner, can tell you right now that it doesn't work.
If I were a light vaper of clear juices, I can make any atty or carto last me months. Anyone who strictly uses time to measure the atomizer's longevity is not telling a clear story.
The truth is, the HH.357's will not and cannot last long using any dark juice or one that is made with real tobacco.
See that 10ml syringe in the picture? I fill that every morning to fill whatever device I am going to use so I know exactly how much I consume daily. And yes, I vape strictly Boba's and purchase a 1000ml monthly.
How are you digging your kicked Reo? I didn't get one when I had the chance and now I'm starting to regret that decision.
Have had a similar experience with the 357 and Ave's Raf-a-licious. Wonder what Ave puts in the juice that kills these so quickly. Whatever it is, its delicious! When it does work, nothings better than Raf through a 357. If only I could make that sweet, sweet spot last forever. Currently on my last 510 357 and have a 901 on the way. Wish me luck people.
I know of a method that will take the gunk off for sure. It's an old secret from the olden days. You take isopropyl alcohol and kosher salt. You put them together in a container with the atty and shake vigorously.
Your post made me laugh because I have tried or thought of all those. Dry burning gets the gunk off but kills the atty almost immediately, so I've stopped that. From researching build up and scorching on engine to kitchen pots, the general consensus is a soaking and filing/scrubbing combination are the only thing that works. Hard to do with an atomizer.
My current revive the HH.357 routine is
1)PGA soak with a run through the ultrasonic. This cleans out old juice and make the wick snow white again. Does nothing for the coil except get the sticky juice out of the carbon build up.
2) Blow out and inspect under 7X loupe.
3) With an extremely sharp needle I poke at the crust and with minor pressure and the sharp needle breaks off chunks. With perseverance I can get it pretty clean and see the coil again. The loupe helps and a a few quick trips to the ultrasonic and blow outs get rid of the hunks. You have to be careful they don't go down and clog the air holes. Perfection isn't necessary and can get dangerous if you put too much pressure on the coil wire. SHort hh.357s are much easier to work with.
4) After last PGA rinse and blow out, I add plain PG soak for 10 minutes, then vape away. It usually brings the vapor and flavor back to 80% and is good for another 25ml. I repeat this until it eventually dies.
I've been getting about 45 ml of BWB tobaccos (70PG/30VG) through a new one with no problem. Sweet dark juices and high VG content start tightening up at about 20-25 ml. Must admit I haven't been consistent with sticking to one juice per atty. Considering using the gunking juices only on 306s unless I hear good news about the customs lasting with them.
Love my HH.357s. Specifically the short 1.5s on my REO Grand/mini. I wish I could afford to crack open a new one every 45 ml. Cleaning sux.
45 ml. could last me at least a week... i have a ton of conventional attys.... bulk prices... but once you taste a great atty, it's all over.
There are a few good ones from a couple of vendors.... but no bulk discounts.
There are a few good ones from a couple of vendors.... but no bulk discounts.
Well, my story is a bit different,,,, maybe the coil may get some gunk on it but this doesn't stop my 357 Atty's from working just fine and I'm still getting great flavor too. I have about 10 Mods set up each with a 357 on them 2 Reo Grands, 1 Reo Mini, 1- Reo Woodvile, 1- VV Reo Woodvile, 2 Darwins, 2 Provaris, and my new VVPV, 5 of these Mods are now running 5 Months with a 357 on them, all taste super and are still working exceptional. So even if there is a little gunk on the coil of the Atty after I have cleaned it the heat from the coil also has to help burn some off too, now I'm not saying any gunk cant be left because I'm positive there is but all 5 of these 357's are still running super and putting out a great vape. NO Atty will taste like it did as the initial break in I think after 5 days, but all in all I think these 357's are the best of the best on the market and those 5 that are still going for 5 months now still taste great and provide me a super vape. By the way I use Boba's, the Raf, and some other dark juices and I use all VG too, in my honest opinion keeping them wet always is what makes them last.
Uke - the re-build-ables are a different animal as well, they use a much bigger piece of wick and a much looser wrap of wire when compared to the 357 and its why they gunk up so fast in my opinion, plus they dont perform nearly as good as a 357 either, I ran them all and cant achieve the same quality vape as the 357
These 357's have been worth every cent to me, hell what other Atty performs anywhere even close to these ? = None of them ! Cisco spec coils are fa-nominal !!!
Uke - the re-build-ables are a different animal as well, they use a much bigger piece of wick and a much looser wrap of wire when compared to the 357 and its why they gunk up so fast in my opinion, plus they dont perform nearly as good as a 357 either, I ran them all and cant achieve the same quality vape as the 357
These 357's have been worth every cent to me, hell what other Atty performs anywhere even close to these ? = None of them ! Cisco spec coils are fa-nominal !!!
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