While mine still vape and taste better than most attys once gunked, the air flow tightens up and the amount of actual vapor gets frustratingly low, no matter how long I hit the trigger. Amazing really how the flavor stays no matter what. I've never had one pop due to gunk build up, I just get annoyed by the deterioration of the vapor production and break them trying to fix them. Maybe because you have so many mods going you aren't abusing them the same as someone like me with only two going at a time, one of which I am using 80% of the time. With 10 I'd get totally confused, I guess I am a simple style vaper. I can use the same juice exclusively 6 ml at a time. If I can't I don't buy the juice again.
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While mine still vape and taste better than most attys once gunked, the air flow tightens up and the amount of actual vapor gets frustratingly low, no matter how long I hit the trigger. Amazing really how the flavor stays no matter what. I've never had one pop due to gunk build up, I just get annoyed by the deterioration of the vapor production and break them trying to fix them. Maybe because you have so many mods going you aren't abusing them the same as someone like me with only two going at a time, one of which I am using 80% of the time. With 10 I'd get totally confused, I guess I am a simple style vaper. I can use the same juice exclusively 6 ml at a time. If I can't I don't buy the juice again.
the amounts that some of you all vape per day blows me away. i feel like im constantly hitting my reo all my waking hours and still go through only about 4ml tops every day.
I vape between 4-6 ml a day. Someone on another thread had a formula that 5 cigs ~= 1ml. Matches my vape numbers because I smoked 1 to 1/2 PAD. Curious how much did you smoke per day?
Are there more windings on the coil of the 3.0 ohm HH.357 510 (Long or Short Barrel) than on the lower resistance (i.e. 1.5 or 2.0 ohm) versions of the same model ?
Or is it the same number of windings but a higher resistance wire ?
I ask because I have a theory about flavor and vapor production I want to test.
Or is it the same number of windings but a higher resistance wire ?
I ask because I have a theory about flavor and vapor production I want to test.
The 3.0 has about 50% more coils than 1.5 Wire looks thinner. 2.0 wire looks similar to 1.5 but 3-4 more coils. Comparing brand new shorties. I can photograph them tomorrow if it helps your research. Too tired now.
im coming up on 1 year smoke free. for most of 29 years i smoked about a pack per day, some days a little more. so that may fit with that formula as 4ml would equal a pack but it sure seems like i vape alot more than i smoked.
Probably takes longer to vape 1 ml than smoke 5 cigs, but we settle on a strength that delivers that nicotine level. Interesting the formula works for you as well. I am over a year too, but my vaping level of 12mg (occasional 18) 4-6 ml has been consistently keeping me happy for a long time. I could go lower or vape less, but so far nothing has pushed me to change my habits.
wanna give a quick shout out to hanna and cisco for putting out a quality product that makes it easy to love my attys and never smoke again. 1 year friday!!!!
Ukeman, I have too many questions to ask so I will just pm you.
Hey Hildi buddy, the Reo with the Kick does kick some aS$ but having it set at max only gets me about 2.5ml battery life out of it. Also tested it using a brand new AW IMR 18650 2000mAh and barely got past the 2ml mark when the power got too low so I guess the Kick does work, just not as long as I had hoped.
Good luck with your 901 but I doubt the higher coil placement will extend it's life, if it does, let me know.
Scott,
you are not going to believe this but I tried your technique the minute I read it. I remember reading about it and tried it once before but didn't do the vigorous shaking part. I thought it was the chemical reaction that was supposed to do the cleaning and now realized I was wrong. I noticed that the salt doesn't melt as fast or at all in the isopropyl and that the shaking part helps sort of sandblast the gunk off. After trying your method in a plastic tube, I poured the remaining contents into a clear pyrex cup and saw that there was some fine black soot that came out. Not sure if the coils looked any cleaner after that but my arm is sure tired. I will try it again and let you know though, thanks for the tip. 
Juicejunky, I gave your needle poking technique a try and also used some dental tools as well. The one thing that I noticed while trying that was, the atties I just received this past Saturday seem to have tighter wound coils that are closer together than my previous ones. Cleaning them with a needle is near impossible because every where I touched was just solid wound coils with no spacing between. Mine are all the 1.5ohms so maybe they started using a lower resistance wire and taking more wraps around the wicks.
One last cleaning technique that I failed to mention was cleaning it with my water pik set on low(#3). Do not by any means attempt this because the water pik will rip the wicks to shreds. Trust me on this and don't try it on a perfectly good atty.
All I know is this, the 4 new 1.5ohm atties that I recently received are losing flavor dramatically within a day or two. The coils seem to be wound way too tight for it to allow adequate wicking which may be why they are losing flavor so fast. So far I have never asked to have any atties sent back regardless if they crapped out within the 4 weeks allowed but something is definitely wrong these.
Hey Hildi buddy, the Reo with the Kick does kick some aS$ but having it set at max only gets me about 2.5ml battery life out of it. Also tested it using a brand new AW IMR 18650 2000mAh and barely got past the 2ml mark when the power got too low so I guess the Kick does work, just not as long as I had hoped.
Good luck with your 901 but I doubt the higher coil placement will extend it's life, if it does, let me know.
Scott,
you are not going to believe this but I tried your technique the minute I read it.
I remember reading about it and tried it once before but didn't do the vigorous shaking part. I thought it was the chemical reaction that was supposed to do the cleaning and now realized I was wrong. I noticed that the salt doesn't melt as fast or at all in the isopropyl and that the shaking part helps sort of sandblast the gunk off. After trying your method in a plastic tube, I poured the remaining contents into a clear pyrex cup and saw that there was some fine black soot that came out. Not sure if the coils looked any cleaner after that but my arm is sure tired. I will try it again and let you know though, thanks for the tip. Juicejunky, I gave your needle poking technique a try and also used some dental tools as well. The one thing that I noticed while trying that was, the atties I just received this past Saturday seem to have tighter wound coils that are closer together than my previous ones. Cleaning them with a needle is near impossible because every where I touched was just solid wound coils with no spacing between. Mine are all the 1.5ohms so maybe they started using a lower resistance wire and taking more wraps around the wicks.
One last cleaning technique that I failed to mention was cleaning it with my water pik set on low(#3). Do not by any means attempt this because the water pik will rip the wicks to shreds. Trust me on this and don't try it on a perfectly good atty.
All I know is this, the 4 new 1.5ohm atties that I recently received are losing flavor dramatically within a day or two. The coils seem to be wound way too tight for it to allow adequate wicking which may be why they are losing flavor so fast. So far I have never asked to have any atties sent back regardless if they crapped out within the 4 weeks allowed but something is definitely wrong these.
Would you also happen to vape 8-10ml of Boba's or another dark juice per day? Once the residue builds up on the coil, there is absolutely nothing you can do to clean it and what good is atty that tastes bad?. All the alcohol washes in the world won't do it and I have even went as far as to try over cleaner, can tell you right now that it doesn't work.
If I were a light vaper of clear juices, I can make any atty or carto last me months. Anyone who strictly uses time to measure the atomizer's longevity is not telling a clear story.
The truth is, the HH.357's will not and cannot last long using any dark juice or one that is made with real tobacco.
See that 10ml syringe in the picture? I fill that every morning to fill whatever device I am going to use so I know exactly how much I consume daily. And yes, I vape strictly Boba's and purchase a 1000ml monthly.
Wow!! Nice pic!
No, I don't quite put my HH's through the same test that you do... no wonder mine last longer. Do you still enjoy them even though they are only lasting weeks?
The 5 that I have going for 5 months are putting out as much vapor as they where on Day #1 ! I just dont see how this can possibly be that they dont put out as much vapor for you when all of mine are. I vape constantly and go through as much liquid as anyone does in a day too. I specifically have put these 357's on so many Mods and each with a different juice in them, all 100% VG or darn close to 100% VG . have you turned up your voltage a bit on them once you see a performance issue ? seems to me that when I bump mine up just a bit when I have a performance issue of any kind the Atty performs again then I lower it back to where I had it. All in all I have been through every Atty on the market and cant find one better then the 357.
I've tried the water pik too and noticed all the wick fibers. I was hoping to push up any blockage. I'd put this on the Definitely Don't list too.
The needle method works even better on the 1.5s because the coils are so tight. The needle shouldn't go between the coils. WHen I clean them they are so gunky I can no longer see the coils. The gunk forms a hard solid casing over the coil. Actually the more build up the easier it is to clean. When you poke it with the sharp needle with a little pressure the gunk casing shatters and substantial pieces break off. Once you see part of the coil it is easier to poke the rest off by working the angles. As the needlle penetrates the solid gunk build up and breaks it, it has a very distinct feeling like going through a piece of charcoal--kind of crunchy. Very satisfying.
Sometimes by breaking the gunk casing off the coil sides you inadvertently get the stuff blocking the holes stuck on the bottom as one big continuous hunk. Not worth fussing too much if it doesn't since if you move the coil around you could break the wire. If you do get the bottom stuff off the renewed vapor production and air flow is closer to 100%.
Dental tools are too blunt to shatter the gunk. An extremely sharp needle point goes deeper into the gunk to shatter it, without excessive force.
I've been soaking the approx 1 mm pieces of broken off carbon gunk in different liquid chemicals hoping to find the holy grail solution to dissolve it, but so far no success. They stay solid and can only be crushed to pulverize them. I'd love to find an easier method.
I just cleaned my attys last night. When they gunk up next time in about 5 days, I'll do a before and after photo to show how clean they get. My befores look similar to the coil H_Bomb showed as the worst he had ever seen.
I have a new batch here I haven't tried yet. I'll be really bummed if I don't get at least a hassle free week or so of top notch vaping before needle surgery is necessary.
Wow, 10 killed HH357 attys since January seems excessive no matter how heavy you vape. My sympathy on your losses. I've only killed 6 since September and technically 2 of those still fire but unusable.
I hear ya,,,, still though I have had 2 357's on 2 non VV Grands for 5 months and these Attys are still running super and like new. I also hear all of these people cleaning these Attys, I rarely ever even do that, I think I may have cleaned each of these 5 month old Attys once since I twisted them on the units, and believe me they get a lot of use.
Can you tellus what kind of juice you are putting through those 2?
I hope it works for you on your HH.357's. Let me know what you think. I haven't seen this method posted around here correctly done, so I had to share the secret. You may have to do it and repeat to get the best results. Just a tip, the kosher salt works best b/c the grain size isn't to big or small. The chemical reaction works only when it is shaken without the salt isn't melted into the solution. This method is great on removal and build up of any viscous or crusted substance on metals or glass, even skin. It is safe to use, but make sure all the alcohol evaporates or is cleaned out before you use it.
Scott,
you are not going to believe this but I tried your technique the minute I read it.
Ukeman, I have too many questions to ask so I will just pm you.
All I know is this, the 4 new 1.5ohm atties that I recently received are losing flavor dramatically within a day or two. The coils seem to be wound way too tight for it to allow adequate wicking which may be why they are losing flavor so fast. So far I have never asked to have any atties sent back regardless if they crapped out within the 4 weeks allowed but something is definitely wrong these.
Not good news especially to vapers just getting interested in HH357 (me)... expecting mine any day.
Here you go
Here is the big one if you want to zoom in
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k534/ecfstuff/HH357s75big.jpg
Here you go
Here is the big one if you want to zoom in
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k534/ecfstuff/HH357s75big.jpg
wow i can almost taste it....
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