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nocturn4l3030

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Ok try this. Drip enought to get a good hit. Then stop and add enough drops until it gurgles on the draw if not gurgling add another drop untill it does then add ANOTHER drop then vape. This thing has a specific level of juice fill that it likes to stay at and even iff there is 5 drops in there it can still run dry it need to be able to cycle juice through the pump. In short 5-6 drops to prime the pump then another 2-3 to vape. If you flood just start again till u find the atty's sweet spot.

To make it easy don't even worry about counting drops if it doesn't gurgle for a second it needs more. :evil:

okay thanks H-Bomb, i'll see how that goes. taking a vaping break, nicotine coma >.<
 

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to everyone using the HH .357, how would you compare it to the 306? are you finding more vapor than the 306's? what about throat hit?

i'm still at the opinion where it very closely resembles a 901- less throat hit, little more taste, similar draw to a 901, and maybe a bit more vapor than the 901 though. haven't messed with the other one as much, but it seems to feel slightly different. i'll update on that another time.
 
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to everyone using the HH .357, how would you compare it to the 306? are you finding more vapor than the 306's? what about throat hit?

i'm still at the opinion where it very closely resembles a 901- less throat hit, little more taste, similar draw to a 901, and maybe a bit more vapor than the 901 though. haven't messed with the other one as much, but it seems to feel slightly different. i'll update on that another time.

I did not like the 306/510.......poor vapor production, terrible draw and the throat hit although flavorful was too much.

As far as the 357....... I had an issue like some others had with the center post of my PV pushing/breaking the seal.

Hanna has been there to support the issue and is replacing my atty.

Thanks Hanna.
 
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Cam, From all the posts I have read and the interviews I have heard, Hanna is an upfront person and really wants everyone to have a good experience with the .357. He did say, that it came to light, after the first two runs that customers may have a problem with the battery connection breaking the seal. If the seal broke the vacuum would not work and cause leaking. He is personally standing behind his product and that he would replace any atomizers, no questions asked, if any customer had this issue with the first two runs. I might be taking him a little longer to replace your atomizers because he has to make them all himself, by hand. I certainly can understand your disappointment. I would be feeling the same way had my two atty's not preformed as expected. I don't care if they had only cost $6 a piece! If I buy something I expect it to preform as advertised. And if it doesn't, then I expect the vendor to either replace the item or give me my money back. I have faith in Cisco and Hanna, they both have come forward and said that they will back this product. Give them a few days to make this right. Based on my experience with the .357, and others who were lucky enough to get one or two of the extremely limited supply, these atomizers are awesome. I know that hasn't been your first experience with them, but I will be hoping that your next experience, will exceed any expectations you had when you first ordered them.
 

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I did not like the 306/510 at all and as far as the 357,....... I had leaking issues/poor vapor and taste and as of now feel like I am getting the run around as far as getting the 2 i bought replaced. great draw on the 357 though.

The money I spent on the thing it should have been perfect. Hanna wants to replace my sealed unit with an open one...................but I have not received one yet.

My guess is.................nevermind what does it matter what I think. The 357 was just a waste of my time and money.

Hope others have a better experience. Peace

I am very sorry for the wait for those that are expecting new atty's. I thought it would be best if I got everyone the open terminals that will not cause any problems. Again I apologize that this whole battery terminal thing happened in the first place. I get the new terminals tomorrow and before I do ANYTHING else I will make and ship atty's to those I have spoke with.
 
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ok got 2 of these yesterday. used it for a couple of hours last night and pretty much all morning today. Mine only crackled and popped for the first few times then went into smooth mode. so far i am extremely impressed with its performance. Flavor and TH are fantastic and the vapor even exceeds as it appears to me the LR306. as others have stated it does go thru alot of juice. i guess the only question will be longevity. if i can get a good 4-6 months out of this its definately worth the price. going to use it for a bit and then make a video on it. in conclusion for now its #winning!
 

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ok got 2 of these yesterday. used it for a couple of hours last night and pretty much all morning today. Mine only crackled and popped for the first few times then went into smooth mode. so far i am extremely impressed with its performance. Flavor and TH are fantastic and the vapor even exceeds as it appears to me the LR306. as others have stated it does go thru alot of juice. i guess the only question will be longevity. if i can get a good 4-6 months out of this its definately worth the price. going to use it for a bit and then make a video on it. in conclusion for now its #winning!

good deal man. def keep us updated on performance. looking forward to the vid.

I wonder if H-bomb's home is starting to look like a dominoes set of atty parts all lined up next to one another. -Magnus

yup sure does. lol its taken over so we are cleaning out the guest room for a workshop....guests will be sleeping vertically in our newly converted "guest closet"
 

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yup sure does. lol its taken over so we are cleaning out the guest room for a workshop....guests will be sleeping vertically in our newly converted "guest closet"

While they sleep shove attys on their temples so they come out resembling Frankenstein. -Magnus
 

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While they sleep shove attys on their temples so they come out resembling Frankenstein. -Magnus

lol nice!

guys ill have a vid up in a few minutes that will show the vapor you should be getting along with a short tutorial on starting up as well as cleaning.

juice is 64% vg 35% pg. the atty is about 3 weeks old.
 

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First of all, the product demonstration in the following video is the reason why the concept of the HH.357 atty initially appealed to me. My vaping habits have evolved over the past year and a half. While I used to find pleasure in talking long, flavorful drags with penstyle atties, I've grown to find more satisfaction vaping with 306 atties which offer greater TH while taking shorter drags, even if at the slight expense of flavor. The HH.357 appeared like it could fit my current vaping arsenal for my 3.7V needs, so I gave it a shot.




Well, my initial impression after using it for about the first hour on Monday afternoon was not so stellar. The atty was not bad but it was certainly not as great as I hoped it would be, especially considering its current price tag. The vapor production was just OK even with four-second drags, the TH was pretty mild even with a fully charged AW 18650 2600mah battery, and the flavor was so so. It felt like this atty wanted to give more but just couldn't. Since many atties require even a full day to break in, I kept on using it in hopes of noticing some improvement eventually.

By the late afternoon, this atty started developing a rather pleasing personality. Vapor production increase was significant as was the TH but the flavor still had a certain undertone which I didn't care for. By the late evening, after a little over 3ml of juice, the vapor production seemed to hit the full throttle. TH became pretty solid but not as "reckless" as I prefer. After blowing it out in the morning and repriming it, I kept on using this atty exclusively all day yesterday (Tue) and it really kept on improving more and more throughout the day.

I believe that by today it's operating at or close to it's maximum potential and I'm very pleased with what it has to offer. Vapor production is pretty insane even with very short drags, TH is fantastic with fully charged batteries down to about 3.9V unloaded, and after about 11ml of juice the flavor is just awesome and pure. That initial "weird" flavor undertone has simply disappeared. Maybe the atty just needed to cycle through enough juice, I don't know... Bottom line is that this atty is rocking my world on a 3.7V MOD right now and I'm very impressed!

So, the million dollar question is whether the HH.357 atty is worth $22 or not. I don't know if I have the answer to that question yet, I believe that only time will tell. Here are at least my thoughts. This atty has such a beautiful draw, the best draw from any atty I've ever tried, and I've tried a few. The draw is simply perfect and I don't think it could be any better. Many atties, especially 510s, stiffen up after a few weeks and the draw becomes tight. If this atty still has the same draw three or more months from now, well, that's worth something IMO. If this atty needs to be replaced in 4-6 weeks from now due to a dramatic drop in performance, I will choose to discontinue using it. But if it ends up providing three or more months of solid consistent performance that I'm getting from it right now, I will be very happy about my decision for purchasing it.

It is important to understand that there is a slight learning curve even for experienced vapers. While with regular 510 and 306 atties the gurgle sound usually indicates a flooded or semi-flooded atty, that same initial gurgle sound from the HH atty actually lets you know that you have added a proper amount of juice in the atty, as stated by Hanna. No split-second gurgle pretty much guarantees a dry hit. Now that I got used to it, I think it's a nice feature for those of us who can be forgetful at times.

The reason for this post is not to suggest to anyone to try or not to try this atty. I simply wanted to share my experience for anyone who is about to step into the HH world and shares similar vaping habits as I do. I really suggest following Hanna's directions and having patience to learn how to use this atty properly in order to fully enjoy its benefits. Thanks.
 

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Phenomenal writeup, Vaporologist. I was lucky enough to get in on one of the 3 atties put up for sale the other day. I should be receiving it tomorrow. I can't wait to try it, and I hope my initial impressions are at least as good as yours. I completely agree that, regardless of performance, the price tag will only be worth it to me if it lasts at least twice as long as a $7-$9 atty.

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