Official DNA 40 introduction

[TIGwelder]

Watch the freezer temp hit the room temp when you open the door. You can see the possible mousture/condensation issues just from the vapor where the two meet when you open the door. You might chill it and then bring it out in the room and condense some water in/on it.

Tony beat me to it

 

[dougward1960]

My fridge is one of those no frost ones... It actually dries out everything not bagged or closed in a container.

The problem might be when you remove it from the fridge and condensation forms in ambient temperature... Not good for the board

Regards
Tony

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true but at 8 minutes it never had time to form condensation and a quick reset and screen was fine. it was just cold not FROZE same as going outside at 20 degrees and mod was in my pocket there has never been any condensation as its never been froze just in my pocket.

 

[TIGwelder]

Doug,
I just commented on what could possible happen. Not saying you did anything wrong. Just posting lf others decide to try it

 

[Frocket]

Im not sticking my mod in the freezer. I see no reason to. Is rather make observations during normal use if I were troubleshooting, and as several posts have stated, freezing your mod probably isn't a good idea. Chances are, nothing significant will happen, but rapid temperature fluctuations are bad for battery health, if nothing else.

BOOM!

 

[MJMcMahon]

Anyone know the warranty length on the VaporFlask?

Thx,

Mike

 

[tchavei]

Well in all honesty, I'm more worried about how to solve the problem if I happen to get a bad board than actually getting a bad board... I'm in Europe. If the board is f* up what am I supposed to do? Send it to the states?!? Call upon the seller?

It's not so simple for us here

Regards
Tony

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[rusirius]

I have and I'll probably order a third.

About testing for the screen glitch, you'll notice it sooner or later. It happens on firing the device. But it's just very very very random. Sometimes it won't happen for a long time, sometimes it happened every time directly after battery reset and fire button. So don't count on the fridge actually being the cause for triggering the screen glitch, might as well have been (bad) luck.

It's possible it could have accelerated the issue. Cooling spray and heat guns are common practice for engineers trying to diagnose and troubleshoot wonky electronics.

In my own personal experience though, at least with my bad board, (and I've seen other reports on other forums that seem to indicate it happening in some others as well) the frequency of it occurring seemed to increase as wattage was increased. With TP off it rarely happened (i.e. initially there were lots of reports of it only happening with nickel builds). Once it was turned on running at say 10W might go an entire day without problems... Crank it to 40W and it might happen instantly. In my own experience I noticed the less I pushed it the less likely it was to happen.

 

[TIGwelder]

Well in all honesty, I'm more worried about how to solve the problem if I happen to get a bad board than actually getting a bad board... I'm in Europe. If the board is f* up what am I supposed to do? Send it to the states?!? Call upon the seller?

It's not so simple for us here

The only thing I can suggest is to buy directly from the mod builder. Explain you're in Europe and you understand there have been issues and that you would like to order one built with the latest components instead of buying from stock somewhere else.

If there have been issues with the ribbon cable on some boards, they have to be aware and have replacement boards by now.

 

[BNEAT]

My car froze solid last night. The electronic thermometer in it said 11 degrees!

 

[DejayRezme]

With TP off it rarely happened (i.e. initially there were lots of reports of it only happening with nickel builds). Once it was turned on running at say 10W might go an entire day without problems... Crank it to 40W and it might happen instantly. In my own experience I noticed the less I pushed it the less likely it was to happen.

Quite possible! But the only thing we can be absolutely sure of is that if you press buttons, things happen

Or that if you put your mod in your freezer long enough, your screen will be frozen.

Or maybe we should just boil it? Haha I better go to bed now

 

[Woofer]

Quite possible! But the only thing we can be absolutely sure of is that if you press buttons, things happen

Or that if you put your mod in your freezer long enough, your screen will be frozen.

Or maybe we should just boil it? Haha I better go to bed now

perhaps do both and then run over it with a vehicle!

 

[dougward1960]

people with mods are subjected to all kinds of weather extremes hot and cold so are we supposed to leave our mod in the house in the room we set resistance and temp in. i wouldnt leave my mod outside in the cold or outside in the summer but i would expect it to work correctly in both environments. my resistance was rising when cold its not supposed to rise it should go down or stay the same. they're was others with the same problem but not sure what they determined their problems were. i dont normally run high watts 15-20 range but i kept getting burnt hits when going from inside to out in the cold my screen never glitched till i was testing to see where i was getting the increase in resistance from turns out my board was causing it to do what others say it couldnt do but was clearly doing it. i could of just said f it and lived with it but it bugged me till i finally did the test i did so once again i dont recommend putting your devise in the freezer but find a way to test things or live with it not working correctly

 

[TIGwelder]

...or repackage it, bubblewrap it and place it in a shipping box. I'm having no issues with it right now ;-)

And now this carto on a legend tastes like crap, but I'm not goofing with it constantly lol

 

[HolmanGT]

If it cant survive freezing then they have a serious problem. These guys aren't dummies. Surely they thought of freezing conditions when they designed these things. Think of all of the other day to day devices that work in freezing temperatures.

BNEAT,

I wouldn't be too sure about other devices having extreme environmental operating ranges. i.e.

iPhone 6 Environmental Requirements

Operating ambient temperature: 32° to 95° F (0° to 35° C)
Nonoperating temperature: -4° to 113° F (-20° to 45° C)
Relative humidity: 5% to 95% noncondensing
Operating altitude: tested up to 10,000 feet (3000 m)

Not as extreme as you might think for something that gets most of its use in the field or going between the great outdoors and your living room.

For what it is worth here it has been cooling off here in Utah and I keep my thermostat set at seventy two. I don't care to put my VF in the freezer I am too concerned about the unit going below the condensation dew point when removed from the cooler usually not a good thing for most electronics. In this case I would be more concerned about the display because I think the circuit board has a conformal coating.

Actually what I started out to say before loosing my "Train"... I have noticed on mine that when it has sent on the end table for a time when I pick it up it feels cool to the touch and the resistance reads 0.19 ohms. When I have been holding it and it is pretty much at body temp it reads 0.18 ohms. No idea why that is so but I will agree with most it is the exact opposite of what I would expect. My example is not very extreme but non the less crazy results.

 

[Spirometry]

I absolutely would.... BUT... If the B&M won't let you do it there, I'd get some sort of acknowledgement up front that if you find out it has glitches that you can bring it back right away and swap it for another. Take it home, slap a nice dual coil build on it, set the TP and fire it at 40W for a bit and make sure the screen doesn't glitch. Even then it looks like you can't be absolutely certain it doesn't have a wonky attitude, but I think it's a fair judge. Since getting my second board I've had absolutely 0 problems with it and absolutely love it. I wouldn't trade it for anything at this point. In fact, I haven't touched a single other mod since I've had it.

When the screen glitches, temperature protection doesn't work, so be careful.

I set my Kayfun to 420 ° and power to 40W. I think I burned my tongue.

 

[Snapdragon]

I really hope we'll look back and laugh at all this someday,

as we fondly remember our pioneer vaping days .............

 

[TIGwelder]

Can anybody see if the test below does anything to theirs

Note: To reset/force "new coil", unscrew cooled atty out half way so it's not making contact. Hold fire button and then re-tighten. Message will appear. Choos yes

Test:
- Let sit unused to ambient temp.
- Reset coil detection
- Check start resistance ( compare to external )
- Let everything sit for over 7 minutes
- Wake board up by using up or down button
- Check resistance ( Change? -0.02 ? )
- Reset coil detection
- Check resistance ( back to original? )

I get :
0.24
0.22
0.24

Mines a Hana DNA 40

 

[Rossum]

10 or 20 years from now: "Son, I was vaping before temperature control even existed. Back then, you had to worry about burnt wicks and dry hits, and when Evolv first introduced temperature control to the market, they had a few teething pains with it..."

 

[MJMcMahon]

10 or 20 years from now: "Son, I was vaping before temperature control even existed. Back then, you had to worry about burnt wicks and dry hits, and when Evolv first introduced temperature control to the market, they had a few teething pains with it..."

...back when I started vaping, we vaped at 20 below, in six feet of snow, uphill both ways! ;-)

 

[Rossum]

...back when I started vaping, we vaped at 20 below, in six feet of snow, uphill both ways! ;-)

.... using blue foam and tea bags.....