Never had a problem with preheat. I have had loose post screws, adjustable 510 center pins and posts that give harsh vape.
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Forgive me, because I haven't been active enough in the community to recognize those names or which companies they're associated with.
I watched part of the video, but came to a similar conclusion: whatever valid points he might have were lost in the rambling and vitriol.
In response to Robert Ellis's video angrily bashing Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers...
People should know - and contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed - when the glitch was discovered (and yes by the beta testers) Evolv worked day and night to find and fix the cause and thought they had with the silicone treatment to the exposed vias. Only after there was a huge end user base did it become apparent that there were screen issues on some boards that weren't corrected by the silicone treatment.
I have no clue as to what the current cause of the issue is or why it randomly presents itself on some boards, but I do know there was a diverse group of beta testers that put the DNA40 through its paces with various nickel coil builds/various attys/various settings and gave feedback to Evolv. FWIW - there were 30 or so beta testers, during beta testing only 2 testers experienced screen issues and I believe a few more had screen issues after beta testing, but the rest of us did not. This is also contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed both about the beta testers and also about the frequency of the boards that have a glitch.
Although I do feel that everyone is most certainly entitled to their opinion and entitled to express that opinion, there should be at least some facts to base that opinion on - and that should be especially so with reviewers who have a following of people that take their every word as gospel (well some do anyway - just look at the comments on Robert Ellis's video smdh lol).
Any reputable reviewer should be very cautious about slinging angry rants that are subjectively biased and agenda based. For Robert Ellis to angrily bash Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers with derogatory innuendos and statements that are unsupported as well as just plain outright wrong assumptions lends discredit not only to him, but also to his reviews. It also discredits any credentials the reviewer claims to have. When you put yourself in the public eye as reviewers do, you also put yourself under the eye of public scrutiny when your actions/words don't support the facts and the public will hold you accountable.
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In response to Robert Ellis's video angrily bashing Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers...
People should know - and contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed - when the glitch was discovered (and yes by the beta testers) Evolv worked day and night to find and fix the cause and thought they had with the silicone treatment to the exposed vias. Only after there was a huge end user base did it become apparent that there were screen issues on some boards that weren't corrected by the silicone treatment.
I have no clue as to what the current cause of the issue is or why it randomly presents itself on some boards, but I do know there was a diverse group of beta testers that put the DNA40 through its paces with various nickel coil builds/various attys/various settings and gave feedback to Evolv. FWIW - there were 30 or so beta testers, during beta testing only 2 testers experienced screen issues and I believe a few more had screen issues after beta testing, but the rest of us did not. This is also contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed both about the beta testers and also about the frequency of the boards that have a glitch.
Although I do feel that everyone is most certainly entitled to their opinion and entitled to express that opinion, there should be at least some facts to base that opinion on - and that should be especially so with reviewers who have a following of people that take their every word as gospel (well some do anyway - just look at the comments on Robert Ellis's video smdh lol).
Any reputable reviewer should be very cautious about slinging angry rants that are subjectively biased and agenda based. For Robert Ellis to angrily bash Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers with derogatory innuendos and statements that are unsupported as well as just plain outright wrong assumptions lends discredit not only to him, but also to his reviews. It also discredits any credentials the reviewer claims to have. When you put yourself in the public eye as reviewers do, you also put yourself under the eye of public scrutiny when your actions/words don't support the facts and the public will hold you accountable.
Great Post ma-lady....... quick look back in history..... Evolv has been/is the industry leader in bringing game-changing technology to the vaping community for many years now and for Robert to bash Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers is at least a misguided response fueled by lack of familiarity with the new technology. It is my hope that he will become familiar with and truly experience the benefits of TP .
In response to Robert Ellis's video angrily bashing Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers...
People should know - and contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed - when the glitch was discovered (and yes by the beta testers) Evolv worked day and night to find and fix the cause and thought they had with the silicone treatment to the exposed vias. Only after there was a huge end user base did it become apparent that there were screen issues on some boards that weren't corrected by the silicone treatment.
I have no clue as to what the current cause of the issue is or why it randomly presents itself on some boards, but I do know there was a diverse group of beta testers that put the DNA40 through its paces with various nickel coil builds/various attys/various settings and gave feedback to Evolv. FWIW - there were 30 or so beta testers, during beta testing only 2 testers experienced screen issues and I believe a few more had screen issues after beta testing, but the rest of us did not. This is also contrary to what Robert Ellis said/assumed both about the beta testers and also about the frequency of the boards that have a glitch.
Although I do feel that everyone is most certainly entitled to their opinion and entitled to express that opinion, there should be at least some facts to base that opinion on - and that should be especially so with reviewers who have a following of people that take their every word as gospel (well some do anyway - just look at the comments on Robert Ellis's video smdh lol).
Any reputable reviewer should be very cautious about slinging angry rants that are subjectively biased and agenda based. For Robert Ellis to angrily bash Evolv, the DNA40, and the beta testers with derogatory innuendos and statements that are unsupported as well as just plain outright wrong assumptions lends discredit not only to him, but also to his reviews. It also discredits any credentials the reviewer claims to have. When you put yourself in the public eye as reviewers do, you also put yourself under the eye of public scrutiny when your actions/words don't support the facts and the public will hold you accountable.
Well put. This is what I wanted to say in my initial post but I lack the knowledge that you so obviously have. What I really found bizarre and outlandish in Robert's review, was the fact that he said he had all the credentials and experience in the world because he has worked in IT for so long and was the vice president (or something like that) of a software company that makes his word and reviews hold water....what? This guy has delusions of grandeur but the last time I checked, he is just a youtube e cig reviewer. I really think he has something against evolv, whatever that may be. Regardless, I unsubscribed and his word is about as useless as t!ts on a bull.
Me either, but I'm guessing it could happen if I was running say a kayfun that performed well at say 12 watts. If instead of setting the temp at the temp I basically want to vape at, and instead set it as a safety for my wick, so let's say I have it set for 490. The preheat dumps high wattage to the coil to try to get it up to the temp set as wick add possible. So if it throws all 40 watts on their until the temp hits 490 (or the designated preheat time is over) then cuts back to 12 watts I can see it being pretty annoying. But if I want a cooler vape and set the temp then it shouldn't be a problem. I haven't noticed one anyway. Just instant on.
Just a quick update on the hybrid wires. As mentioned before, I was using 28ga Ni200 drill-twisted with 30ga kanthal, very tightly twisted.
And I FINALLY have a TP-capable coil that vapes well on my r91 (I've been whining to some folks about how the massive coils just make for a harsh and poor vape on atties with smaller airflow like the kayfun or r91
9 wraps around 3/32 to give me 0.16 before wicking, and 0.13 after wicking and juicing.
I've decided to go ahead and pulse fire the guy just to show yall how it looks
The coil is SO MUCH more robust mechanically, so wicking and mounting is back to being dead easy.
Vaping extremely well and im happy. Currently set at 22W, and temp limit of 450F
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And I FINALLY have a TP-capable coil that vapes well on my r91 (I've been whining to some folks about how the massive coils just make for a harsh and poor vape on atties with smaller airflow like the kayfun or r91
9 wraps around 3/32 to give me 0.16 before wicking, and 0.13 after wicking and juicing.
I've decided to go ahead and pulse fire the guy just to show yall how it looks
The coil is SO MUCH more robust mechanically, so wicking and mounting is back to being dead easy.
Vaping extremely well and im happy. Currently set at 22W, and temp limit of 450F
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Let's not forget regardless of temp control what we got here with the 40 vs the 30 at no extra cost for devices that have moved to the new board. Step down, reverse battery protection, lower ohms allowed, screen that does not stay on forever, 10 more watts, and the ability to try nickel builds to me was icing on the cake. I had a unit with a bad board myself and now that it has been fixed it has been perfect. I understand they had a bunch of boards with issues but how would beta testers be able to know they would receive and put out boards that had problems if theirs did not. Love how he rips reviewers in the past for not doing a correct in his eyes review and then he does this. Here is another person who will not waste time watching him and his ego do another video.
I have aøways thought that Provari used the DNA chip,Do ProoVape make there own chips? Zen and HOH does use the DNA,no?
Provape makes their own chip. HoH's Zna uses the dna.
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So Kiwi did you try any other gage twisted coils? I don't have a 40 yet but have been watching. The way the 28ga / 30ga worked I wondered if you tried 28ga/32ga?
Nope I haven't! All my tanks were fully loaded up unfortunately. But I'll try it tmr
def wanna do so that I can go back to building more reasonably sized coils. All my Ni200 have been monstrous haha.
I have Ni200 in 28 and 30ga, and kanthal in 32, 30, 28 and 26. Which combinations would you be interested in?
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Update: RMA Status to Hana Modz for screen glitch repair.. Item was delivered to their facility on 11/17. It's expected to arrive at my doorstep on 11/24. So expect a week wait if you want to go through Hana.
Reason to live test (at least if you've some early boards) ... This one required only a little use time at 420F and 39W. A few good burns and the numbers shifted. Reset ... for a couple more functional hits and then a complete scramble.
2 not siliconed = 1 good 1 untested (goop added)
3 with silicone = 2 bad 1 untested
2 not siliconed = 1 good 1 untested (goop added)
3 with silicone = 2 bad 1 untested
30/30 is all I've tried, but I only have 30 gauge nickel. The 30/30 is relatively robust, coils reasonably well and holds up to wicking. It's particularly well suited for spaced coils - when I wrap a tight coil, then let off tension, it spreads just enough that the wraps aren't touching, and pretty evenly as well.
It's certainly not the most efficient coil I've worked with; I've been running it at higher watts than I'd run a twisted 30 gauge kanthal build. Heat up / cool down times aren't great either. The good news is temp control works like a charm. Running single coil on an Erlprinz right now, and it's vaping nicely at 420° max temp, board is throttling wattage to around 20 watts.
Since using this, I can't see myself going back to pure nickel coils. They're just too delicate for my taste.
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Nope I haven't! All my tanks were fully loaded up unfortunately. But I'll try it tmr
All my Ni200 have been monstrous haha.
I have Ni200 in 28 and 30ga, and kanthal in 32, 30, 28 and 26. Which combinations would you be interested in?
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Well I don't have a DNA40 so doesn't really matter. Just seemed that the 28/30 twisted looked to be giving a good result. So maybe a 28/32 might improve it or some other combination.
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0.46Ω lots of loose coils in my test rig. 450 degrees was to hot at 22.4 watts . At least no screen issues. 350 degrees is just clouds of cool vapor. Seriously liking this.
About Joe and Nitro. Follow the money. Their interests are transparent. They have no clicks to make for DNA products = no $$. Not to mention they have to try to curb the rush away from those things they promote. Sad they have to be so venal and childish. Nitro is selling his soul to keep the clicks happening. When the bargain chip devices come out of China they may change their tune as these will likely go thru normal retail channels. Maybe even Fasttech eventually. That's when their science will come around and rave about the new technology. Just some vape charlatans playing their game.
About Joe and Nitro. Follow the money. Their interests are transparent. They have no clicks to make for DNA products = no $$. Not to mention they have to try to curb the rush away from those things they promote. Sad they have to be so venal and childish. Nitro is selling his soul to keep the clicks happening. When the bargain chip devices come out of China they may change their tune as these will likely go thru normal retail channels. Maybe even Fasttech eventually. That's when their science will come around and rave about the new technology. Just some vape charlatans playing their game.
My board has been sitting at evolv for a week and a half. No word yet.
I have a board that has been at Evolv for a week and no word? Also, built another device for my brother that is experiencing screen issues? It's kind of a pain to take out! I have 2 more DNA40 boards that I have not wired and installed. Should I inquire of Evolv as to weather I should send those back to make sure there are no problems before I use them?
Any advice would be appreciated.....
Any advice would be appreciated.....
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