Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[ENAUD]

Going the Brick and mortar only soft release will likely also diffuse some of the angst that could occur from a pre-order type of scenario like was done with the original ProVari, and give Provape early feedback as well, while they are ramping up production to meet demand.

 

[Lemwise76]

In fact as provape said, they are doing this to honour the b&ms that carry their product.

It's the customers who bought Provape products in the past who made the brand big. This is a .... move if you ask me.

 

[AngiBe]

I was finally able to watch Busardo's vid on the P3. Although I did say the looks of it aren't very impressive to me (prefer more custom cut outs or something unique), the features look awesome. If it is the same price range as the 2.5 (as it should be) or a tad higher, I'll be getting one, especially if it launches in other colors.

 

[DPLongo22]

If it is the same price range as the 2.5 (as it should be) or a tad higher...

Idunno about that, Ang...

 

[rbrylawski]

I was finally able to watch Busardo's vid on the P3. Although I did say the looks of it aren't very impressive to me (prefer more custom cut outs or something unique), the features look awesome. If it is the same price range as the 2.5 (as it should be) or a tad higher, I'll be getting one, especially if it launches in other colors.

You can pretty much bet the farm, it will cost more than the 2.5, especially since the 2.5 will still sell along side the P3. When you say launch, I think in terms of an Apple Launch where everyone who orders one can get one on 'launch' day. If you mean when it first launches, they've already said Satin Silver will be the only color available to start, with other options rolling out over time.

 

[Limpar]

Although it looks very nice, I was a tad disappointed with one aspect of the design. I felt that the 2 tube extensions could've been incorporated into the design better in regards to their seams.

For example: the seams on the Wizard's Apprentice II are made to look like the lines that are actually milled into the rest of the tube.

 

[dhaiken]

Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

The first Vertical Market Software system I co-developed back in the 80's cost $500k to produce and sold for $7,500.00. I told my prospects if they wanted it to be exactly what they wanted it would be $500k. If they would settle for 95%, they could save $492,500.00. Never did sell a $500k version.

Congratulations on a job well done Provape!

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

I think even that will put a lot of people out of the market. Provape says themselves they are going for the general mass market of vapers. Or at least that's my impression. $300-350 would turn away a lot of the mainstream market IMO. Myself included. I'm hoping the v2.5 gets a price drop and the v3 is somewhere near the current 2.5 price.

Well their current prices are not really what the "general mass market" pays. Not saying these prices are not justified BTW, but not everybody can afford a brand new Mercedes. I hope it doesn't exceed the $300 mark, but if it does I will understand and do some serious saving.

 

[hadid10]

Hey does anyone know when is it going tobe available at provape.com? Kind regards

 

[AngiBe]

Hey does anyone know when is it going tobe available at provape.com? Kind regards

No word on that yet.

 

[SeniorBoy]

Congrats and best wishes ProVape. You have a winner. Remarkable move in lieu of the FDA deeming regs. Please don't worry about 30-100 watt crowd. No single mod is or should be all things to all people. ALL mods have pluses and minuses. Looks like you hit the sweet spot.

Pricing is a guess but you can't cannibalize your 2.5 sales so a guess is around $299. or about $100 more than a 2.5. and a web site sale date about 6 months away. These are just my own guess with no inside information other than the 3 2.5s I currently own.

 

[amolson]

My complaint is how much they get marked up, not the Provape price.

I have bought some very expensive toys, like the Samsung 12" Note when it came out, for full price. It's rare, but if I really like a product, I'll do it.

But when the standard markup is 2 to 3 TIMES the MSRP, no. I'll wait or make do with something else. I'm the same way with tickets to events and really appreciate it when limited availability things are doled out by lot, or at least partially by lot, so that I have a chance.

Maybe have a drawing for limited number of factory sold units for those of us who aren't willing to pay scalper prices? Anything to prevent price gouging. A 'factory store' where say a certain number are available per week, one per customer, while the B&M sales are going on. Particularly if only prior customers can get in on it. Do a drawing on MyRewards numbers, for example. Customers who get picked can order one at MSRP or pass on their pick if they don't want to buy one (or have already bought one).

Because with it being B&M only, if nothing is done, the prices are going to be astronomical. Maybe the B&M might only be able to mark it up 2 or 3 times recommended, but do you really think people aren't going to buy them and then sell them for 5-10 times what they paid for them? Not to mention the fact I bet NO B&M is going to be able to keep any stock. The first person in the door is going to buy all available stock and then flip them. There's just too much potential profit margin there.

The dragon was one thing. It was purely cosmetic. Not that big a deal. However, I really don't like it when a company throws their customers to the scalpers on a significant upgrade. I was hoping to get one before Christmas, but I'm really reconsidering how badly I want to continue doing business with a company that prides itself on "Made in the USA" on one hand then throws their customers to the tender mercies of flippers and speculators on the other.

 

[bosun]

RE: B & M Prices.
"We" have a price set in our heads of what an item is worth/what we will pay for it. If the price is too high we don't buy it. If a B & M wants to charge $500.00 for the new P3 then that is their business. If their business model is cost plus 200 percent then they must figure they either have a well-heeled clientele breaking down their doors to buy a rare item or believe in "A fool and his money are soon parted". If no one buys their stock they will lower the price. If getting something three months before everyone else is worth a premium price then buy it. Rest of us can wait and buy it direct from Provari at their price. I don't see any reason to get my knickers in a knot about it (G)..

 

[Hemptation]

Lol. My local b&m has sold me 5 provari's. All at the same cost I can buy then from provape. Would anyone like their number to go ahead and place an order. For cost plus shipping? It's really not this big of an issue.


Scalpers. And abandonment. Lol.

honestly, just have to find a good dependable vendor. that is not trying to rob you or take advantage of you. and they are out there. they really are. not saying that there are not vape shops that are taking advantage of people that don't know who to operate a computer. but there are good shops to. and in helping local shops, and good shops. we support local vaping and the local vaping community. there are pros and cons to this on both sides. from business to the customer. and back from the customer to the vendor. all back on provapes. but maybe they are trying to make a statement. something we, online shoppers, are not seeing. this has been the topic of complaint on every page. but there has to be something we are missing. some other perspective that is not ours.

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[rbrylawski]

Exactly. My Vape Store won't rape me either. If they get the P3 and I want one, I'll pay the same retail price I can order one for. I'll pay tax of course, but if I want it, I have no fear buying from them.

 

[Hemptation]

I also have the understanding that the dealers get the beta mods. and have to use them. and let customers use them. then report back to provape on personal experiences along with what the customers say. that is work. and I am eagerly waiting on my local shop to get onme. just so I can go in there and try it. even knowing I can not take it home with me that day. so that entitles them to maybe getting it a week early. or something. not like they are saying it is only going to available at the shops for a year or something. come on. give em a chance. they are trying to be fair. if you are that eager. get up with a prover dealer. check their prices on ongoing 2.5's and get your order in. I am sure any good shop is trying to help any vaper get their gear in anyway they can.


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[amolson]

Heh. The nearest Provari dealer is literally over 100 miles away in another state. If they actually get any stock for regular customers, well, I doubt it. I've seen this happen way too often with limited run items. A handful of speculators buy up all the stock and then you see them on eBay for insane prices. Regular customers have no chance at items like this, or at least those who don't have the option to line up days in advance and even then, only the first few get all of them.

Mostly though it's the attitude, that only the extremely wealthy are going to have any chance at a P3 near the release. Not to mention how valuable those diamond marked ones are going to be.

Now I don't expect anything to be fair. Life isn't like that. It's just disappointing to me that Provape, a company that's good to their employees, is playing the 'Apple game' of limited supply to drive prices and interest up. Sure it will look great when that diamond P3 breaks 10K on eBay as 1 of 100 or whatever they're planning on making, but I don't have to like it.

Of course I won't buy Apple products either, because I consider the way they treat their customers to be abusive, excessively paternalistic and far, far too greedy.

Meh. I'm thinking that 50W bottom feeder is looking better and better.

 

[rbrylawski]

Heh. The nearest Provari dealer is literally over 100 miles away in another state. If they actually get any stock for regular customers, well, I doubt it. I've seen this happen way too often with limited run items. A handful of speculators buy up all the stock and then you see them on eBay for insane prices. Regular customers have no chance at items like this, or at least those who don't have the option to line up days in advance and even then, only the first few get all of them.

Mostly though it's the attitude, that only the extremely wealthy are going to have any chance at a P3 near the release. Not to mention how valuable those diamond marked ones are going to be.

Now I don't expect anything to be fair. Life isn't like that. It's just disappointing to me that Provape, a company that's good to their employees, is playing the 'Apple game' of limited supply to drive prices and interest up. Sure it will look great when that diamond P3 breaks 10K on eBay as 1 of 100 or whatever they're planning on making, but I don't have to like it.

Of course I won't buy Apple products either, because I consider the way they treat their customers to be abusive, excessively paternalistic and far, far too greedy.

Meh. I'm thinking that 50W bottom feeder is looking better and better.

Interesting you refer to Apple. When they launch a new product, like iPhone or iPad, their process is very fair and anyone who wants one can order it at the same time and the same price from Best Buy, their Cellular Carrier or Apple Directly and be pretty assured they'll get it on the day everyone get's one. I'm not sure how much more fair they could be?

Provape could actually learn from Apple's very fair process.........There's no price gouging and if you want one, you know exactly what it costs and when you'll get it.

 

[kbf101998]

It is disappointing that only the B&M's will have it first, and then a wait for online sales. When the Dragon was released, I called 45 B&M's--all were either within 50 miles of Nashville, or in Nashville or one of the larger suburbs. ALL but one said they did not carry Provari--the ONE that said they did carry Provari knew nothing about the Dragon release.

They did attempt a little customer service after I asked if they could get me one, they said they would check on it and get back to me.

They never bothered to call back.

 

[Hemptation]

I'm telling everyone. Right now. My Local Vape Shop. Will order and mail. Anyone. Any vape gear. You want. And not price gouge you for it. I have already said it 3 times. I am not going to say it again. They are an authorized provari dealer. Look them up. cool vapes. In flowood Mississippi. And I have the regular non blem dragon provari with blue led. Got it the week after the dragon dropped. I paid 245 with the extension.


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