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So now that Provape managed to develop the new High Performance End Cap for the Procyon, which offers X4 times electrical connection (quoting their website), they can certainly copy the design to the Radius as an upgrade, offering both a better conductivity and easier battery replacement.
I think you may have misunderstood things here. The radius design gave a better than 4x connection than the spring type. What the Procyon cap does is bring the connection quality of the radius to the tube mod, though not quite as good due to the fact that the radius negative plate is directly wired to the board. The Procyon still has threads in play but the spring is there only for pressure and not conductivity. The pyramid plate in the cap provides the main connection point the spring may be a secondary conductin path.

At least that's how I interpret the design from vape 360s comments and the look of the cap itself.
 

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I think it was a precondition for them in whether or not they would design a 40W device. That's just my opinion.

I believe they looked at their mission statement, which is safety first and foremost, and decided they would provide the battery. Then, at least, they could feel good about having done all they could to make sure that mission statement had been met. What we do with it after that they can't control, but they've done their best.

I'm sure there is also some technical reason they decided to go with double screws, and a one piece bottom plate. What that reason is.. no idea.

But you can also tell, precisely because of the way they decided to implement it, that getting at the battery was secondary, at best, in what they were trying to achieve with the Radius.

I think they want a good battery, in a stable envioronment, and they want it left alone. I also think they weren't much interested in producing a disposible product.

I don't really have an opinion on whether or not it's a good thing to be swapping batteries in and out of the Radius.

I believe that ProVape would rather we didn't, otherwise they would have made it easier to do in the first place.

It may just come down to the fact that they can't control the batteries that people are going to put in there.
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Please point to this statement made by ProVape.

It's not there anymore, it was gone with their new website design. But was there for at least two years..

Why should they?

Because it doesn't bother anyone if a battery could be swapped faster, and we'll also get the new cap which offer X4 times electrical conduction.
 
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I don't think anything got out of hand in here today. :?:


Mariusk post on not liking the last few devices Provape made didn't bother me, it was the comment on the Provape engineers that I might of took the wrong way. :unsure::blush:
But even at that, I was just having a little fun.
:p

I didn't mention the engineers specifically, but I still think the self scrolling menu and some other menu/ui related issues (like the long error messages you cannot escape from, and the fact you're thrown into the settings after each error) are "inferior" human engineering (used another term, some felt uncomfortable with my previous choice).
 
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Not to start a flame war here (because it seems so easy for flame wars to get started on EFC lol) but why are most of the replies in this thread about the Radius? This thread is about the Procyon and I feel like I'm reading the 10,000 page Radius thread all over again...:spam:
 

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I think it was a precondition for them in whether or not they would design a 40W device. That's just my opinion.

I think they want a good battery, in a stable envioronment, and they want it left alone. I also think they weren't much interested in producing a disposible product.

I don't really have an opinion on whether or not it's a good thing to be swapping batteries in and out of the Radius.

I believe that ProVape would rather we didn't, otherwise they would have made it easier to do in the first place.

It may just come down to the fact that they can't control the batteries that people are going to put in there.

They do want us to swap batteries on the Procyon, which offers more power than the Radius,
so why not swapping on the Radius ? My assumption (and maybe it's only me) is they wanted to create something new. If some of the mods offer internal batteries and others offer replaceable ones, they created something in the middle - an internal-replaceable battery. But the final result is a device with a complicated-replaceable battery, something which I (and again, maybe it's only me) find no technical reason for, mainly because I'm sure Provape is able to maintain the safety and the good conductivity even without these two Radius screws and the internal plate and wire (and the fact is they're able - they made the Procyon without this complicated swapping mechanism), but also because it's not a new technology - it was done before on even more powerful devices. And I'm not referring to China stuff, but to quality mods made by respectable US manufacturers.
 

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I think you may have misunderstood things here. The radius design gave a better than 4x connection than the spring type. What the Procyon cap does is bring the connection quality of the radius to the tube mod, though not quite as good due to the fact that the radius negative plate is directly wired to the board. The Procyon still has threads in play but the spring is there only for pressure and not conductivity. The pyramid plate in the cap provides the main connection point the spring may be a secondary conductin path.
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I'm sure the Radius cap won't allow more electrons to flow compared to the Procyon cap on their allowed current.
But even if (as you say) the Radius offers more than X4 connection, I'm sure that if Provape gives us a device with X4 connection (Procyon), then it's safe enough. No need for complicated battery swaps and X40 or X400 connection.
 
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I'm sure the Radius cap won't allow more electrons to flow compared to the Procyon cap on their allowed current.
But even if (as you say) the Radius offers more than X4 connection, I'm sure that if Provape gives us a device with X4 connection (Procyon), then it's safe enough. No need for complicated battery swaps and X40 or X400 connection.
 

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Can we focus on the Procyon instead of repeatedly steering this thread off topic?

Really love the Procyon design. The main display now shows you what's important - resistance, power and battery - everything at once and on the same screen.
I may even compromise on the fw updates. But the scrolling menu.... After it was solved on the Radius, I cannot accept it again on a new device.
 
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