Official ProVari Radius Thread

[Zen~]

I don't think a swivelling bottom allows enough room for a battery. But who knows?

Probably not... We do know the battery comes out, that works for me... HOW it gets out is not as important as THAT it gets out and can be changed when needed.

 

[The Ocelot]

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice color. And I have several purple and pink mods in all shades.

How bout a nice burnt orange? That seems to be a hot color lately.

This isn't quite a "nice" burnt orange, I think it's more pumpkin. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with Cabernet for the base and there is almost no yellow in it.

 

[FringeChief68]

I'm liking the polycarbonate body that the color is all the way through
Something else to think about,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
Polycarbonates used in engineering are strong, tough materials, and some grades are optically transparent.
A Transparent ProVari Radius

 

[USMCotaku]

Question for anyone who knows (hopefully without the huge debate): is it possible to do temp control on a single 18650?

Simple answer, yes.
There are temp control mods that max at 25 watts.

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[Zen~]

This isn't quite a "nice" burnt orange, I think it's more pumpkin. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with Cabernet for the base and there is almost no yellow in it.

No... it's not a nice burnt orange... but it IS a lovely "Hamster Henna™"

 

[USMCotaku]

Here's a color I'd like to see....

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[FringeChief68]

Just picture a Transparent Radius with a glass bell cap on it

 

[RebelGolfer72]

The Cabernet is stunning... MUST have




I'm sorry, I just have to do this... I tried so hard to not comment on this... I really did... People just HAVE to stop using Ohms Law until they actually understand it... When you can tell me, or anybody else for that matter, how 3.3 x 20 = 60, then you can MAYBE get me to take your question seriously.

That being said, without knowing how much current the circuit requires to actually DO what it's doing then you have no way of using those numbers to calculate a single thing.

EVERY person that feels that by knowing Ohms Law they can calculate what a regulated device is going to do, under load, knowing ONLY the Amp limit of the battery and any one other factor is simply coming in here and broadcasting to the world that they SO LITTLE about electronics that they should head to the community college for a refresher course. Seriously...

ProVape has some of the most talented engineers working in the vaping industry... period. When you look at the new Radius pictures it is abundantly clear they have a design team that is second to NONE in this industry. What I see when I look at this device is so many talented people, in a WIDE variety of disciplines have come together and created a device that is far beyond anything that has come to market thus far. Do you KNOW how hard it is to design for injection molding Polycarbonate? The fit and finish on this device appears to be absolutely stellar.

People cry from the mountain tops calling for innovation... and when they get stuff that looks like it came from a high school wood shop they herald the creators as artists and geniuses... then ProVape does this.... and makes them all look like complete amateurs.

I don't know what they will release as power in the device, I'm speculating like the rest of us in here, but I DO know that THEY know more about what they are doing than ANY of the arm-chair engineers in this thread.

LOOK AT THE RADIUS....

From an industrial design point of view, does it actually HAVE a peer?

50% CDR, 30% CDR... I'm making educated guesses... who knows...

But I do know 3.3 x 20 isn't 60.

I guess 30+ years of working electronics knowledge, patents, and engineering school doesn't make me qualified to speak..but, the OP was not that far off.
power output (watts) = power in (watts) + overhead.
Assuming that the Baird is 90% efficiency (ProVape is 95%, but well error on the high side of loss to be safe)
60w output = 60watts input / 90% = ~66w total power consumed by the battery.
W = V*I. So assuming a battery cutoff of 3.3V, 3.3V * 20A = 66W power consumption by the battery. (If you want to calculate with a 95% efficiency, the consumption would be 63.1W, and at a 3.3v cutoff, it's now 19A at cutoff...and at 4v, which would be the average available voltage, you are sitting around 15a)
One factor that is overlooked (for good reason!), is that the CDR rating *IS* conservative, and has already factored in manufacturing tolerance, degradation over life of battery, as well as its padded a bit for good measure to protect against liability (I.e. The "idiot proofing factor").
With a good quality 20A battery, 60w is absolutely safe. 50 is even safer. And the fact that ProVape is including a good battery, and providing USB charging, a majority of users will never change the battery for at least the first year!

 

[440BB]

New Feature added... Internal Calculator automatically prevents 3.3 x 20 from being 60

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I think that crosses the line a bit. ProVape would most likely use the KISS principle and simply train and test the hamsters on the necessary math. Hamsters which can only count puffs need not apply. They would also most certainly use American hamsters.

 

[USMCotaku]

I guess 30+ years of working electronics knowledge, patents, and engineering school doesn't make me qualified to speak..but, the OP was not that far off.
power output (watts) = power in (watts) + overhead.
Assuming that the Baird is 90% efficiency (ProVape is 95%, but well error on the high side of loss to be safe)
60w output = 60watts input / 90% = ~66w total power consumed by the battery.
W = V*I. So assuming a battery cutoff of 3.3V, 3.3V * 20A = 66W power consumption by the battery. (If you want to calculate with a 95% efficiency, the consumption would be 63.1W, and at a 3.3v cutoff, it's now 19A at cutoff...and at 4v, which would be the average available voltage, you are sitting around 15a)
One factor that is overlooked (for good reason!), is that the CDR rating *IS* conservative, and has already factored in manufacturing tolerance, degradation over life of battery, as well as its padded a bit for good measure to protect against liability (I.e. The "idiot proofing factor").
With a good quality 20A battery, 60w is absolutely safe. 50 is even safer. And the fact that ProVape is including a good battery, and providing USB charging, a majority of users will never change the battery for at least the first year!

Careful. That kind of logic will earn you pages of snark [emoji15]

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[AstroTurf]

That's going a bit too far. The manual would be the test.

Then I would have to read the manual?!?

I don need no stinkin manual!!!


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[RebelGolfer72]

Careful. That kind of logic will earn you pages of snark [emoji15]

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I'm a big boy...I think I can handle it

It's funny, though, out of all of us hoping for a usable power range, I have not heard any of us put down anyone who vapes differently tha us... But those who do sure have a lot to say about not wanting us to have the Vape we like. Guess they want us all back on cigarettes.

 

[AstroTurf]

Nice. But it has to stay divinely purple, instead of being a faded black that is ashamed to be purple enough for us girls.

Us girls?!?

I like purple too!!!

Almost as much as I like girls!!!


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[FringeChief68]

I guess 30+ years of working electronics knowledge, patents, and engineering school doesn't make me qualified to speak..but, the OP was not that far off.
power output (watts) = power in (watts) + overhead.
Assuming that the Baird is 90% efficiency (ProVape is 95%, but well error on the high side of loss to be safe)
60w output = 60watts input / 90% = ~66w total power consumed by the battery.
W = V*I. So assuming a battery cutoff of 3.3V, 3.3V * 20A = 66W power consumption by the battery. (If you want to calculate with a 95% efficiency, the consumption would be 63.1W, and at a 3.3v cutoff, it's now 19A at cutoff...and at 4v, which would be the average available voltage, you are sitting around 15a)
One factor that is overlooked (for good reason!), is that the CDR rating *IS* conservative, and has already factored in manufacturing tolerance, degradation over life of battery, as well as its padded a bit for good measure to protect against liability (I.e. The "idiot proofing factor").
With a good quality 20A battery, 60w is absolutely safe. 50 is even safer. And the fact that ProVape is including a good battery, and providing USB charging, a majority of users will never change the battery for at least the first year!

Working nights so I'm missing a lot
Where did you read, ProVape is including a good battery, and providing USB charging,
I looked but can't find that here

 

[rbrylawski]

The real important question is what do Box Mod Vape folks use to keep their mod's held in place while driving? Huh? What? I bought one of these from Provape to keep my P3 safe while not in use in the car. It's been great.

 

[rbrylawski]

Us girls?!?

I like purple too!!!

Almost as much as I like girls!!!


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That's funny. I like purple more than I like girls! LMAO!!!

 

[AstroTurf]

I know the key is the manual and not an update, but I've never read it.

I read it...

But all it says is ProVape.


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[AstroTurf]

New Feature added... Internal Calculator automatically prevents 3.3 x 20 from being 60

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So many features...

But that's not all...

It also doubles as a Sofa, a Digital Camera, and if it's the right color... It can cure constipation!!!


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[rbrylawski]

I read it...

But all it says is ProVape.


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What are you on today? You've given me more laughs today than any other day, maybe like, ever!

 

[AstroTurf]

Looking at the knurled knob at the bottom I assume the entire bottom is to be removed when changing the battery?

Nah, I think that's there to kick start the Hamster?!?


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