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Ah - I gotcha! Sounds like Modrod is having good luck with CE2's on a Volt, but I may be making a presumption there. I've had good luck with CE2's but I haven't tried a KR808 CE2. I'd be really leery of using them on auto batteries though. Sometimes the little devils develop leaks.
The newer CE2's have much better leak protection. The base is sealed much better than older versions. I have yet to have any of the new versions leak on me.
 

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I have. They work quite well in fact. The only thing to watch for with them, is to keep your Volt upright when not in use. If left on it's side for too long the coil gets flooded and you get some gurgling. Not a big deal really but something to be aware of. I just set mine down in a pen cup/holder when not in use. I've been using the 2.6-2.8 ohm 808's.
 

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Wow just awesome thank you!
I agree with Rave that the atties not firing could be an airflow thing. All of my atomizers have a flat bottom with an air hole down the middle. The "sealed" auto batteries have two tiny air holes on the sides of the main positive pin. So if you screw in a flat-bottom atty, there's no way to get any air flow through those tiny side-holes of the battery. Of course, the older unsealed auto batteries have the air hole straight down the middle, so those would indeed mate up just fine with any atty.

I see now and understand <3

You'll want to be careful about how many ohms, the resistance, of the atomizers, clearomizers, or other vendors' cartomizers you screw onto a Volt battery. I would not try a low-resistance (LR) one on a Volt battery, as the Volt batteries are not designed to be able to supply the high current they require. And if you screw on one that has too high of a resistance, say 3ohms or more, you're not going to get much performance at all. The Volt cartomizers I've tested come in right around 2.5ohms + or - .3ohms.

For myself I see no use in the RL but for sales just my opinion but I wont use them.. MY ce2's go no higher then 2.6 so those should be good if I read this right no?

It's one of the beauties of the Volt system, that the Volt batteries and cartomizers are perfectly balanced in voltage, ohms, and amps to work together without a user having to deal with fiddly bits. Sorry to hear you cannot tolerate cartomizer fillers, what a bummer.

I'm just happy the ppl here @ ecf had helped me to identify the cause to the allergy. My first e cig order included 15 more cartos then the 5 that came with my kit. I was so close to quitting and going back to cigs. the reaction was awful.

As for chargers, I only use Volt chargers with Volt batteries. Here again, Smokleless Image selected their USB charger dongle to supply the perfect charge current and voltage to charge the Volt batteries.

I so love the care and thought that went into this awesome product. is what I love my volts <3... Noted volt charger for volt batts check :thumbs:

I'm afraid I'm not quite following what you wrote about your charger situation, but I think you are saying one is a Volt charger and it's not working with the Volt batteries? Could you please look on your Volt USB charger (the little dongle) and see if it says this:

USB CHARGER
USB Input 5V DC 500mA
Output 5V DC 150mA


Where I'm getting at is that pretty much all 808 threaded USB charger dongles look identical. There is no logo on the Volt charger, so the only way you can be pretty sure that it came from Smokeless Image is if it says the above on it. You say some of your stuff you bought used, so I'm trying to figure out if you got the USB charger used and if so, if it is the one intended for the Volt or not, heck, if you bought it used, it may be broken. Some other vendor's chargers indeed do work with the Volt battery, but I'm trying to get a baseline on what your situation is.


I have the volt charger <3 imagine saw to it. the "others" 808 batts (suppler unknown as I got them in a PIF here) that wont charge on the volt's charger...

Also, remember that if your battery is already charged, the LED light won't light when you plug it into the charger. It might just blink three times to tell you that it's already charged and then go out.

If I put one of these batts on the volt charger the chargers LED is red not blue and the tip of the batt is not lit, so maybe not enough electricity? maybe use the ego and the adapter? Is this thought safe?

Thank you for all you time SteelJan, I'm eating this up :D

You know what I think I have learned a lot but my volts are my babies. I'm not messing with these. I'll just order more volts TEHE... I need my sky a nice red and an orange, hummm I think that will do for now. Giggle
 
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It's already been banned in Calif for a couple years now. Doesn't seem to stop a lot of people though, unfortunately. But I wonder if this new one includes using a bluetooth headset or the hands-free features in newer cars.
Obviously they didn't say "all electronic devices", as it would include the car radio or even the car for that matter! Both use a battery, just like the Volt :)
Yeah, I think they're just saying all electronic communication/GPS devices + iPods that are NOT built into the car, including headsets...but iPods? really? That part would suck. So the only way to make a call in your car would be to get a car with a built-in phone (like the one that comes with OnStar - then you'd have to pay for OnStar). And if your car stereo doesn't play mp3s (one CD can hold 4+ albums worth), then you're limited to what you can play. I've seen some crazy drivers listening to NPR. And if you want GPS, then that would have to be a manufacturer feature as well. That would suck too, because the dealer's version is not always that good, and very expensive. But supposedly, manufacturers' versions take all the necessary safety precautions, which makes their built-in features OK. But have you seen some of the AC/heater controls on some of these cars? Will that be next?
 

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Hmmm - I just tried a 901 atty on a couple of my sealed Volt batts and it won't fire either. I'm thinking airflow issue. :confused:

As far as your charging issues: Have you tried elevating the battery connector just a smidge?
Yeah, I think the difference between the 901s & 808s were holes and slits for air flow. The 901s didn't have them.
But I kinda remember that there are 901-to-808 adapters out there to fix that.
 

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I've not found anyway to take apart a Volt battery without destroying it because the threaded end is both press-fit and glued into place and that's the end that all the guts slide out of as one unit. So, if one of the wires broke inside at the threaded end, you cannot get to it. Or if one of the wires at the little chip end broke off, there's no way to pull it out far enough to solder it back on either.

Here's how the connections go inside of the battery. The "End Chip" as you call it, has both the tiny airflow-activated switch and has the LED on its little circuit board. When you suck in, the air passes through a tiny hole on this circuit board, activating the switch, and that switch turns on its LED and also completes the circuit to the positive center post way up at the threaded connector where the cartomizer screws on (+Threads). The negative side of the battery is soldered to the outside negative part of the threaded connector (-Threads). Here's my best crude attempt to give you a visual:

End chip <----------+ BATTERY- -------> -Threads, outside part of connector
|LED
V
----------------------------------------> +Threads, center post of connector

-------AIR FLOW -----------------------------------------------> CARTOMIZER -------> Vapor
Oh, so it's like a mini version of my garbage disposal switch (air activated - when you push the button, it pumps in enough air to turn it on)! I get it now - and here I was, thinking it was magic. :)
...so Jan, how hard is it really, to change the LEDs on these things?
 
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Yeah, I think the difference between the 901s & 808s were holes and slits for air flow. The 901s didn't have them.
But I kinda remember that there are 901-to-808 adapters out there to fix that.

There are 901 > 808 adapters, but they are for 901 batteries to 808 attys or cartos. It's weird, but the 901 atty's will work on an 808 battery, but not the reverse. You can use a 901 atomizer on an 808 without an adapter.
 

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Thanks for the input. :)

Speaking of stockpiling against the ANTZ, have you received your canned response today from the White House? Sucks.

Yeah - That cheesed me off a bit.

"E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death."

We have been arbitrarily written off in spite of meeting and exceeding the number of signatures required. Grrrr....
 

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yeah - that cheesed me off a bit.

"e-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death."

we have been arbitrarily written off in spite of meeting and exceeding the number of signatures required. Grrrr....
CHEEZED OFF!?!?
THESE PEOPLE ARE EFFIN' NUTZ:evil::glare::blink::(:nah::-x:censored:8-o

excuse me while i go outside and knowingly kill myself. i'm (literally) smokin'.
 
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Yeah - That cheesed me off a bit.

"E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death."

We have been arbitrarily written off in spite of meeting and exceeding the number of signatures required. Grrrr....

can i get a link to these please. i cant even believe that. thats basicly saying "lets ban this cause it could lead to this other thing." ban the original if anything then the problems fixed. e cigs are not the problem here. it appears to be ignorant politicians. i dont get it. not at all.
 

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Yeah - That cheesed me off a bit.

"E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death."

We have been arbitrarily written off in spite of meeting and exceeding the number of signatures required. Grrrr....
You Cheese me the example to ingredients & public health is nicotine! Not the products attractiveness to any group.
Who are these dummies? This county is so lost. :facepalm:
 
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Speaking of stockpiling against the ANTZ, have you received your canned response today from the White House? Sucks.

Yeah - That cheesed me off a bit.

We have been arbitrarily written off in spite of meeting and exceeding the number of signatures required. Grrrr....

CHEEZED OFF!?!?
THESE PEOPLE ARE EFFIN' NUTZ:evil::glare::blink::(:nah::-x:censored:8-o

excuse me while i go outside and knowingly kill myself. i'm (literally) smokin'.

Suicide on the installment plan.

Just in case no one got the White DungHouse response here it is in all its We Care response.

The White House

Protecting Public Health Through Safe and Effective Treatments

By Dr. Lawrence R. Deyton, M.S.P.H, M.D., Director of the Center for Tobacco Products at the FDA.

Thank you for signing the petition "Recognize electronic cigarettes as an effective alternative to smoking and support job creation in this new industry."

E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death. Because clinical studies of these products have not been submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), consumers currently have no way of knowing what types or concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals are found in these products, or how much nicotine people inhale when they use these products.

FDA is taking steps, as authorized by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, to include electronic cigarettes under the agency's regulatory authority.

However, in light of the lack of validated scientific data, including a lack of reliable indicators of nicotine and harmful chemical content, FDA cannot at this time conclude that electronic cigarettes are an effective alternative to smoking.

Make no mistake, the Obama Administration shares your concern about the public health risks associated with cigarette smoking and is committed to helping Americans quit. Cigarette smoking poses a serious public health risk to our Nation, accounting for about one-third of all cancers, including 90 percent of lung cancer cases. On average, adults who smoke die 14 years earlier than nonsmokers. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. A 35-year-old man who quits smoking will, on average, increase his life expectancy by 5 years.

As someone who is clearly engaged on this issue, we also want to make sure you know about the Great American Smokeout, the American Cancer Society's nationwide campaign to encourage smokers to make a plan to quit. Watch a special video from President Obama and learn more about it here:

President Obama

Related links:

NIDA InfoFacts: Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products
CDC Fact Sheet: Health Effects of Cigarette Smoking
CDC Fact Sheet: Secondhand Smoke Causes Heart Disease
The Health Benefits of Smoking Cessation: A Report of the Surgeon General. Available
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control and Federal Retirement Reform
FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes

Check out this response on We the People.

Stay Connected

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Notice that they ask you to stay connected...

I will stay connected with my foot up their &s* while they get booted out the door :D

I cant attach the actual email damg it .. If I was not sick I would holler even more
FDA = .......*n D*****t A******s
 
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My sample pack of cartos included ry4 which is delicious but i finished it. the other flavors in the pack are just not for me. Very disappointed in freedom (smells like popcorn) 555 (tastes too much like peanuts). Have yet to try cowboy or desert joe which also came in the pack. Hopefully my next carto sample pack of Smooth Sampler (cappuccino and minty flavors) comes quick!
 

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When it comes to tobacco or e cigs the government keeps talking about the attraction for kids (which none of us want) but what blows my mind is how the alcohol industry doesn't get any grief even with Birthday Cake Vodka on the market. There are more attractive liquor flavors on the market than it would ever be possible to have for eliquid... I just don't get it.
 

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Just in case no one got the White DungHouse response here it is in all its We Care response.

The White House

Protecting Public Health Through Safe and Effective Treatments

By Dr. Lawrence R. Deyton, M.S.P.H, M.D., Director of the Center for Tobacco Products at the FDA.

Thank you for signing the petition "Recognize electronic cigarettes as an effective alternative to smoking and support job creation in this new industry."

E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death. Because clinical studies of these products have not been submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), consumers currently have no way of knowing what types or concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals are found in these products, or how much nicotine people inhale when they use these products.

FDA is taking steps, as authorized by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, to include electronic cigarettes under the agency's regulatory authority.

However, in light of the lack of validated scientific data, including a lack of reliable indicators of nicotine and harmful chemical content, FDA cannot at this time conclude that electronic cigarettes are an effective alternative to smoking.

Make no mistake, the Obama Administration shares your concern about the public health risks associated with cigarette smoking and is committed to helping Americans quit. Cigarette smoking poses a serious public health risk to our Nation, accounting for about one-third of all cancers, including 90 percent of lung cancer cases. On average, adults who smoke die 14 years earlier than nonsmokers. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. A 35-year-old man who quits smoking will, on average, increase his life expectancy by 5 years.

As someone who is clearly engaged on this issue, we also want to make sure you know about the Great American Smokeout, the American Cancer Society's nationwide campaign to encourage smokers to make a plan to quit. Watch a special video from President Obama and learn more about it here:

President Obama

Related links:

NIDA InfoFacts: Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products
CDC Fact Sheet: Health Effects of Cigarette Smoking
CDC Fact Sheet: Secondhand Smoke Causes Heart Disease
The Health Benefits of Smoking Cessation: A Report of the Surgeon General. Available
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control and Federal Retirement Reform
FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes

Check out this response on We the People.

Stay Connected

Stay connected to the White House by signing up for periodic email updates from President Obama and other senior administration officials.

facebook Facebook twitter Twitter youtube YouTube flickr Flickr itunes iTunes


Notice that they ask you to stay connected...

I will stay connected with my foot up their &s* while they get booted out the door :D

I cant attach the actual email damg it .. If I was not sick I would holler even more
FDA = .......*n D*****t A******s

This was exactly what I expected. Government "by the people, for the people" is a fantasy. Big Pharma and Big Tobacco and The Government Machine all have way too much to lose here. They will make it as difficult for us as possible. I know that it sounds overly dramatic, but they want us to die - slowly and using as many chemicals and medical services as possible along the way - and hopefully, before we are old enough to collect Social Security. Just my :2c:
 
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