Oh Holy Cow!!!!!!!!
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"I", "I'd" "I" "I'd"...this is YOUR experience. So YES, splitting hairs.Nah, not hair-splitting.. Just the fact if I were to stop vaping tomorrow, within 2 days, I'd be at that smoke shop buying my usual $55.00 carton, plus cigars...I haven't touched tobacco in 3 years, and ever since I quit, I put the same amount of $$ away for my vape budget. I didn't really quit.. I substituted vaping for tobacco smoking. Whatever I don't spend out of the budget goes towards other things..
And lets be honest, most drop way more than the upfront for a Provari on the things they buy anyway. Mostly during the first few months.
Of course you can...get 'em girl!
It wasn't just her, I was guilty as well, but you do have to admit he came in like a bull in a China closet from the get go! I think we get a little slack for that?
Just as good... is the common phrase in most of the disparaging posts, that and the poster never having owned one. Why do they come on the ProVari threads? You don't see people posting on threads for other devices about how much less an XXX is compared to a Chi You (for example), plus it has VW!
This, of course, is not directed at those who someday hope to join the ProVarinati, it is for the nimrods who crash our threads:
This is sarcasm. Ocelot told me exactly the same thing when I admitted I had an inexpensive Mod of Vapage and not a REAL bottom feeder like a Reo. Did I take offense to this, or take it personal? No, of course not. We often rib one another here. We are happy folk here. We own Provari's. We are the ProVarinati.TheSystemHasFailed said:
Vapage VMod-XL bottom feeder box mod
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Of course you can...get 'em girl!
There are times I get tired of posting this one.
Hey, I'm on your side/s...AAMOF I just told a friend of mine who is getting into vaping to NOT get the floor model they have at a local B&M...go straight to Provape.
I very rarely, if ever, recommend a ProVari to new vapers. I don't believe there is one "best" device that fits every person's needs. I am also well aware that the price of a ProVari (and many other APVs) is pretty steep for people who aren't sure vaping is going to work for them.
It is very stressful to quit smoking and it's close to cruel to suggest that unless someone buys an advanced mod or RBA they might not be successful; especially if it is beyond their budget and comfort level. Learning to vape can be quite frustrating and telling someone everything other than XXX is junk &/or a waste of time isn't helpful. Taking baby steps can build confidence.
A Twist/Spinner or even a regulated eGo is more appropriate in most cases. It's been my experience that they don't break nearly as often as people claim they do (at least not Joyetech or Vision). I have 3 and have PIF'd 2, all of which are working fine after a year. Just about everyone has something similar in their arsenal somewhere and, if anything, they make good back-up. Saying to a new vaper that they should get XXX since they'll end up getting one anyway is ridiculous. I believe that in the beginning spending most of the budget on different delivery devices and juice flavors is a better plan.
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I'm more and more convinced that vaping is an experience akin to smoking, in that you have to find your own way to do it satisfactorily - or else it's probably back to analogs..
My only suggestion is to try and find what works for you, be it an ego or a provari, and stick to it. Yes you're probably going to spend more money than by adopting immediately an high-end device, but what the hell you were going to waste money on analogs anyway, so what's the point?
Ah, BTW: yes, you can build yourself something as good as a provari... Have a look here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/465688-wood-carbon-dna20-mod.html ;-)
And you don't need to be a rocket scientist either. If I could, anyone else can.
My only suggestion is to try and find what works for you, be it an ego or a provari, and stick to it. Yes you're probably going to spend more money than by adopting immediately an high-end device, but what the hell you were going to waste money on analogs anyway, so what's the point?
Ah, BTW: yes, you can build yourself something as good as a provari... Have a look here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/465688-wood-carbon-dna20-mod.html ;-)
And you don't need to be a rocket scientist either. If I could, anyone else can.
Well, my friend has a knack for "going for the head" in terms of researching things he's currently into. Thanks a mill. for that advice, I've been lurking since December, so I've already thrown the spinner advice at him. Not only that, he insists on e-bay, and bought a "spinner" from there. He presses the button 8 times, and it broke! Then we had the talk...
Oh, and he smokes Shisha, this is why he wants to switch.
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I'll take good care of him.Just don't let him buy the batteries off of eBay.
This disclaimer appears at the top of your linked page. So you can say that anyone can do it, but there are costs in time, risk, equipment, etc. If it took you two months to build it, that is a lot more cost to me than $159 or $179. The mod looks nice, but it is governed by a DNA20 chip, which is superior to the ProVari for sub-ohm vaping, but is not able to limit the low end output like the ProVari does spectacularly (uniquely, I would say) well for 1.2 ohms and up.
Is this mod, "as good as a ProVari?" Perhaps to you and many other vapers, yes. To some who have no interest in sub-ohm, it is not.
Either way, it is some nice work you did there and I am sure you are rightfully proud of the effort. Impressive. Mod on!
It's just the usual CYA boilerplate... Since the advent of the DNA chips, just about anyone can make their own e-cigs with relative ease
I don't do sub-ohm vaping, yet I find the DNA chip as good as my (1yr old, trusted and beaten) provari, for what I do with them at least.
But my point wasn't about which one is better, anyway, it was just a reinforcement of the "you have to find your own way" concept. Zen, sort of
Whatever keeps people off the analogs, it's A-OK in my book ;-)
I don't do sub-ohm vaping, yet I find the DNA chip as good as my (1yr old, trusted and beaten) provari, for what I do with them at least.
But my point wasn't about which one is better, anyway, it was just a reinforcement of the "you have to find your own way" concept. Zen, sort of
Whatever keeps people off the analogs, it's A-OK in my book ;-)
fixed that for ya
DNA20 is a good chip but is never going to match a provari.
Very kind of you
Yes I've explored the nivel chip as well but the DNA was a bit cheaper and more readily available, so that was it.
I don't know what you guys do with your provaris, but (robustness aside) I don't actually miss anything when using a DNA-based mod... As a matter of fact, my provari is taking the backseat these days.
Enough 'flames', though, I can't stand anymore to see the word provari in just about any threads.. ;-)
It's just the usual CYA boilerplate... Since the advent of the DNA chips, just about anyone can make their own e-cigs with relative ease
I don't do sub-ohm vaping, yet I find the DNA chip as good as my (1yr old, trusted and beaten) provari, for what I do with them at least.
But my point wasn't about which one is better, anyway, it was just a reinforcement of the "you have to find your own way" concept. Zen, sort of
Whatever keeps people off the analogs, it's A-OK in my book ;-)
Very nice looking mod, and I by no means am meaning to berate you about it, but roughly what do you have in it? I know the DNA chip is $50 right off the bat!
I was involved in the developmental phase of a box mod built off the DNA chip set. My instructions were to design it, out of aluminum, in a machinable manner, and make it as durable as a Provari.
Now, mind you, owning a Provari, I'm quite aware of it's durability, and to achieve this out of aluminum, that would take some doing! 6061t6 was the only choice! I made it with 1/4" wall thickness, a trick dovetailed sliding door, the whole ball of wax!
Problems, it was too big, it was too heavy and to mass produce it, well, it just really wasn't feasible and the market testers were not impressed!
Now had we used Titanium, we might have gotten away with it, other than price point. Had we used stainless, the price goes up, but the size comes down.
I've dealt a lot with carbon fiber, incredible stuff for sure! But I don't give it the strength SS has for a heavy use object!
This is going dangerously close to threadjacking, for which I'd like to apologize to the OP.
Briefly: you're looking at maybe 70/80 bucks worth of materials. What makes a difference cost-wise is the time you sink on it, but being it a hobby for me, not really part of the equation.
Briefly: you're looking at maybe 70/80 bucks worth of materials. What makes a difference cost-wise is the time you sink on it, but being it a hobby for me, not really part of the equation.
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