OMG!!!! My battery justn now EXPLODED

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emus

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emus, I've always thought it was too bad that the industry didn't set standards for this. There is no excuse for making a charger that attaches to a battery that will explode when used with that charger. It's very easy to design a plug that will not physically attach to the wrong battery. Just like you can't plug a 110V wall plug into a 220V receptacle.

Unfortunately, maybe someone will have to get hurt before anything is done about it and that would really suck!

I can't imagine charging batt from business end could cause an explosion unless charger was defective and outputting high volts. Charger shouldn't fry when charging large capacity batt unless some serious penny pinching involved. I can charge tiny motor cycle batt or 700 CCA car batt w/ tiny cheap trickle charger. The trickle charger is happy producing <2 amps regardless of batt capacity.
 

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I bought a starter kit with a "peculiar" charger: It had no circuitry in it. Just wires directly from the USB to the 510. I only found out after I opened it. And I opened it only because it had ruined one of my batteries, making it swell and malfunction. I guess I'm lucky the battery didn't explode. (emphasis added)

And - there you have it. I am beating on this point because it needs to be beat on. DO NOT use those crap USB to eGo adapters on anything other than the crap battery they came with. Better yet - don't use the battery or the charger in those kits at all.
 

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I'm currently in Panama. I've got this tablet and a Trustfire charger plugged into a UK (usually 240V) 4-way adapter, which in turn has an IEC (kettle/monitor/PC) socket. Then a US (110V) mains to IEC plug cable plugged into the 100V mains.

So I am currently doing exactly what you say I can't, and even charging a vaping battery with it. :p

(I'm an engineer; I do silly stuff like this because I know how to do it safely.)

LOL, thank you for reinforcing my point. Other than plain rewiring the plug, you had to do all this to make it work.

So if you didn't know what you were doing and had blown yourself up, no one would have blamed the wiring, they would have said it was Darwin at work :thumb:
 

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I can't imagine charging batt from business end could cause an explosion unless charger was defective and outputting high volts. Charger shouldn't fry when charging large capacity batt unless some serious penny pinching involved. I can charge tiny motor cycle batt or 700 CCA car batt w/ tiny cheap trickle charger. The trickle charger is happy producing <2 amps regardless of batt capacity.

I'm thinking this was a case of the wrong charger used, but I have been wrong before ;)
 

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OK battery experts, I see two things in this thread that cause me concern about my own habits:

1. My ego came with usb charger but no wall plug. I plug it into my AC/USB adapter from my Kindle. Is this bad?

No. The AC to USB adapter will have a ratings plate on it. The output should always be DC 5 volts. But you want to make sure the output current it can provide is 500 mA minimum. Anything higher than 500 mA only means the adapter is capable of providing more current than the charger will ever need to use - and that's a good thing.

2. I always use my ego until it dies, completely, then recharge it. Is this also bad? If so, how long should it be used instead before re-charging?

No. If it's a real eGo battery "dies, completely" isn't "dies, completely". The internal circuit shuts the battery off when it drops to 3.2 volts, preventing the battery voltage from dropping any lower into a range that could do damage to the battery.

At the same time you don't have to wait for your battery to shut itself off before recharging. Charging a partially drained Li-On battery will have no impact on it's overall run time or life span. In other words, these aren't your Grannie's old fashioned NiCad batteries.
 

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I'm thinking this was a case of the wrong charger used, but I have been wrong before ;)

He already admitted that he was using the wrong charger and knows it was totally user error. He basically first posted because of fear for what had happened then continued after thinking about it and realizing it was his fault but wanted this to be a lesson on what NOT to do. Just because it fits doesn't mean it's safe to interchange batteries and chargers. He used a cig-a-like charger on an eGo type battery.

He now knows this is a big no-no. :)
 

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    Jeez Fishee, be more careful! shock.gif
     

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    I'm glad you are ok and hopefully no damages to anything else were made?
    (sorry, usually I try to read entire thread before posting...but today is one of my limited attention span days)

    after reading robin's reply...yes I've done that before too...thankfully nothing bad happened but as rickajho and badittude had beat into me not to ever do it again and then also helped explain why not to and helped with my idea of one charger to charge them all theory was a bad idea...I keep all chargers and mods with each other as to not mix them up
     

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    It hasn't been said, but I don't plug the AC to USB adapter into a wall. I use an extension cord. If you plug the adapter into a wall, then if something happens, what can you do? An extension cord allows you to place the charging bat away from a wall and to a safer surface. I use a power strip. It has the added protection of a circuit breaker, not to mention the on/off switch.

    These amazing batteries that we utilize have a LOT of potential energy. Respect them and all safety instructions.

    Never charge batteries unattended. Ever.




    Ever.
     

    edyle

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    I charge in a big clay flowerpot in the middle of my concrete slab porch. I am a little over cautious with batterys.

    That's a nice one; I was thinking to use a toolbox thingy, then I though maybe a metal pot, but a clay flowerpot type thing sounds perfect, thanks.
     

    Rocketpunk

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    I may get flayed alive for saying this, but I think batteries exploding like this are kind of like hearing about airplane crashes. They're very, very rare, but when they happen, it's major national news and always tragic. I've been vaping a year and a half and I've charged ego and Efest batteries at night while I slept and never had an issue. Of course, I use the proper charger with the proper battery, and I use a Nitecore intelllicharger for my external batteries. But, that's just me. Many here would consider that unwise, and I understand. So don't do what I do, do what you feel is best and safest.
     

    Ryedan

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    He already admitted that he was using the wrong charger and knows it was totally user error. He basically first posted because of fear for what had happened then continued after thinking about it and realizing it was his fault but wanted this to be a lesson on what NOT to do. Just because it fits doesn't mean it's safe to interchange batteries and chargers. He used a cig-a-like charger on an eGo type battery.

    He now knows this is a big no-no. :)

    Thanks for the info :thumb:. I thought so, but didn't remember the details.
     

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    Im very happy you are ok! :) Glad you figured out what happened.

    This just goes to show that whether its batteries or chargers for Mechs/VV/VW mods or Egos that these things do occur and we should all make sure we are using correct chargers and keeping track of our batteries and being safe.

    I had friend who had 18350 vent in his pocket .I told him time after time to keep them safe and what did he do .Toss it in pocket with car keys :facepalm:
     

    Rickajho

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    And another one today even:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/halo/529030-ruined-battery-g6-charger.html

    Battery didn't explode in this case, but using the incorrect charger did kill the battery and render it non functional. And this one, sadly, is still being done by people with batteries and chargers from a site where they go out of their way to tell the user DO NOT charge "this" battery with "that" charger. And they still do it - with predictable results.

    And while I'm on the topic: Blu batteries are 510 threaded, so that means you can just mix and match any old 510 batteries and a different charger - right? BZZZZT!!! WRONG!!! Blu uses reverse polarity from the standard for 510 batteries and chargers. Putting a Blu battery on any other charger is a great way to kill or explode a Blu battery.
     

    emus

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    Im very happy you are ok! :) Glad you figured out what happened.

    This just goes to show that whether its batteries or chargers for Mechs/VV/VW mods or Egos that these things do occur and we should all make sure we are using correct chargers and keeping track of our batteries and being safe.

    I had friend who had 18350 vent in his pocket .I told him time after time to keep them safe and what did he do .Toss it in pocket with car keys :facepalm:

    I did that twice before I learned better. Both times it melted 1/4th of the insulation off. I threw those hot potatoes on the ground. They both still worked after cooling. I practice safe batt now.

    Did your friend's batt vent a little or a lot?
     

    emus

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    And another one today even:

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/halo/529030-ruined-battery-g6-charger.html

    Battery didn't explode in this case, but using the incorrect charger did kill the battery and render it non functional. And this one, sadly, is still being done by people with batteries and chargers from a site where they go out of their way to tell the user DO NOT charge "this" battery with "that" charger. And they still do it - with predictable results.

    And while I'm on the topic: Blu batteries are 510 threaded, so that means you can just mix and match any old 510 batteries and a different charger - right? BZZZZT!!! WRONG!!! Blu uses reverse polarity from the standard for 510 batteries and chargers. Putting a Blu battery on any other charger is a great way to kill or explode a Blu battery.

    Reverse polarity. Wow. Wonder if that was marketing decision. Pretty sure engineering couldn't come up with that idea.
     
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