OMG, NO!! A New, Deadly Addiction!

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I wonder if the AOCZ (Anti Oreo Cookie Zealots) will want the FDA to ban the peanut-butter and mint varieties, as these flavors might attract new cookie users...

Yaaaah! Peanut butter! That contains carcinogens!!! Think of the chiiiiildren!:evil:

... sewing AOCZ tag on my clothes and marching up and down....
 

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Oh, I sooo hope fat and sugar get pursued as addictive substances. It will affect so many more people and make them see just what nut jobs we've been dealing with. I can hear it now: "Do you smoke?" "No." "Do you use nicotine?" "No, but I eat Oreos, is that going to affect my insurance premiums?" "Not yet, but know that they are considered a gateway drug so your premiums might be affected in the future if your lipid profile indicates addiction."

On a serious note, once you buy into the belief that people who make lifestyle choices considered unhealthy contribute to overall healthcare costs and should be penalized by higher insurance premiums for same (as in smoking) then it's logical to predict that *any* "unhealthy* lifestyle choice will be viewed in the same light. And you can bet the insurance companies will jump at the chance to pump up the bottom line....

Now, going for a vape and an Oreo... :vapor:
 

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I'm quite amazed by this article.

Either they haven't reported the full details of the experiment, or even the scientists concerned are talking utter..... rat droppings.

rats on one side if the maze got an injection of saline while those on the other side got injections of ....... or morphine

I blame the parents. What do they they think they're doing, letting their kids hang out unsupervised in mazes where random strangers can inject them with God-knows-what? They should be at school or in church.

Rats seems to like the cookies about as much as they liked the addictive drugs. When allowed to wander freely, they’d congregate on the Oreo side for about as much time as they would on the drug side.

I could have designed another experiment. This time, the rats either get no food, or some rice cakes. In a shock-horror surprise result, the rats go for the "rice cakes" side as much as they go for the drugs. Then I replace the rice cakes with some seeds and nuts. Shock-horror surprise, the rats go for the "seeds and nuts" as much as the drugs. Since rice cakes are different from seeds and nuts, the common factor is eating, and I've proved that eating at all is as addictive as taking hard drugs. 8-o

Remember, you read it here first. Sorry, I'm very busy at the moment, my assistant will pick up the Nobel prize for me.

I've no idea where this

These findings suggest that high fat/sugar foods and drugs of abuse trigger brain addictive processes to the same degree

came from either. Did I miss the bit where the put the rats in a some kind of MRI scanner to see what was happening in their brains? Perhaps I didn't. Perhaps they're just talking about "brain processes" because it sounds kind of "science-y".

Relief from all this nonsense about "addiction" in Carl Phillips' blog post here: Does ANYONE have a valid definition of “addiction”? | Anti-THR Lies and related topics
 

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I could have designed another experiment. This time, the rats either get no food, or some rice cakes. In a shock-horror surprise result, the rats go for the "rice cakes" side as much as they go for the drugs. Then I replace the rice cakes with some seeds and nuts. Shock-horror surprise, the rats go for the "seeds and nuts" as much as the drugs. Since rice cakes are different from seeds and nuts, the common factor is eating, and I've proved that eating at all is as addictive as taking hard drugs. 8-o

Remember, you read it here first. Sorry, I'm very busy at the moment, my assistant will pick up the Nobel prize for me.

Bwaahaaaahaaaa!!!!! :lol:
Yes, you most certainy deserve the Nobel prize for having proven that eating at all is as addictive as taking hard drugs :lol:
Yes, yes, you should definitely publish that groundbreaking study :) - It might make a great change from all the .. rat droppings.. that have been published recently :)

Relief from all this nonsense about "addiction" in Carl Phillips' blog post here: Does ANYONE have a valid definition of “addiction”? | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

great link, thank you!

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And I agree about the rats stashing the not-so-desirable food :)
I have been keeping pet rats for over 10 years, and that is precisely what all my (rat) boys have done.
Of course, when offered tasty, calorie-rich food instead, my boys stuff their faces with it - and they eat the parts first that are richest in calories and / or protein. Rats are not stupid, and they live in packs, usually - so if rat A does not devour the best parts first, rat B will eat them instead while silly rat A is gnawing on not-so-rich food. ;) Ain't gonna happen ;)

And now, excuse me please while I go eat some calorie-rich cookies :)
 

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I could have designed another experiment. This time, the rats either get no food, or some rice cakes. In a shock-horror surprise result, the rats go for the "rice cakes" side as much as they go for the drugs. Then I replace the rice cakes with some seeds and nuts. Shock-horror surprise, the rats go for the "seeds and nuts" as much as the drugs. Since rice cakes are different from seeds and nuts, the common factor is eating, and I've proved that eating at all is as addictive as taking hard drugs. 8-o
Actually, National Lampoon published a similar study many years ago. IIRC, the mice with access to a certain drug produced from coca leaves became cliqueish and effected a world-weary demeanor...
 

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Fortunately, this non-study is total nonsense.

Here's how it went down: Our furry friends were dropped in a maze. On one side, there was a tasty cookie. The other, a rice cake. Without exception, the hungry little rodents opted for oh-so-sweet sandwich cookie goodness over the flavorless simulated Styrofoam snack.

Essentially, what the less-than-competent students actually demonstrated was that the critters preferred Oreo's to rice-cakes.

The FDA might find that compelling, sure, but no one here as ever accused them of scientifically literate. :)
 

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As a graduate of Paris Island, my thoughts on mazes. Cookieeees.

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Fortunately, this non-study is total nonsense.

Here's how it went down: Our furry friends were dropped in a maze. On one side, there was a tasty cookie. The other, a rice cake. Without exception, the hungry little rodents opted for oh-so-sweet sandwich cookie goodness over the flavorless simulated Styrofoam snack.

Essentially, what the less-than-competent students actually demonstrated was that the critters preferred Oreo's to rice-cakes.

The FDA might find that compelling, sure, but no one here as ever accused them of scientifically literate. :)

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You have summed up that non-study very well indeed! :lol:

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And@NorthofAtlanta:
I love your picture. That is just about what my rat boys would do :lol:
I wonder what conclusions the FDA would draw from that? How about " Do not - repeat: not - mess with us" ? :lol:
 
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Of course, when offered tasty, calorie-rich food instead, my boys stuff their faces with it - and they eat the parts first that are richest in calories and / or protein. Rats are not stupid, and they live in packs, usually - so if rat A does not devour the best parts first, rat B will eat them instead while silly rat A is gnawing on not-so-rich food. ;) Ain't gonna happen ;)

No, no, no, you're misinterpreting this completely. You're starting from the assumption that rats (or children, or smokers, or people in general) have any intelligence. This has now been proved to be completely wrong. It's like the Ptolemaic system in astronomy - intelligent people believed in it, but then Copernicus came along, flipped the whole thing inside out, and everything became much simpler.

There is no such thing as intelligence. What people mistake for intelligence is just a manifestation of the fifth fundamental force of nature: like magnetism, it draws living things irresistibly towards things containing Addictium. (Evidence is emerging that the Ptolemy cunningly stuffed large quantities of Addictium into his theory, the sneaky b*st**d - this is why people believed in it for so long). So what's actually happening with your rats is:

1. Rat A goes for the Oreo-centre, drawn in by the Addictium contained in it.

2. Oreo-centres are singularities ripped in the fabric of space-time by concentrations of Addictium beyond our imagination. That much Addictium simply cannot exist in one Universe - thus the laws of the Universe are suspended. The outside parts of the Oreo are the event horizons: once you take them off and your eyes behold the naked singularity, there's no going back. (To conceal the true, sinister nature of these Irresistible Black Holes of Evil, Big Sugar cunningly colours them white).

2. As Rat A approaches the Oreo, tidal forces in the titanic Addictial field emanating from the Oreo tear apart its brain structure, causing it to think it might be quite enjoying this.

3. The total collapse of Rat's A's brain-structure under the Oreo-influence gives off a deadly cloud of high-energy (8 YeV) particles called addictons. Nobel prizewinner Peter Higgs speculates that addictons are made up of quarks of flavour Gloopy, JazzFunk and CherryMint, but needs a bigger collider to prove this.

4. Their brains hopelessly irradiated by addictons, Rats B, C and so on are drawn into the sphere of influence of the Oreo, thinking "I want a part of this!", only to fall hopelessly beyond the event horizon into the gaping maw of the singularity, eventually emerging elsewhere in the space-time continuum as giant babies. (Or was that last bit in a film I saw once?)

This also explains scientifically why one person, anywhere, smoking or doing something that looks a bit like smoking, constitutes a public-health disaster worse than the Black Death.

[Philosophy Break Time!

If one child eats one Oreo in a forest, but there are no "scientists" to observe it, is the child addicted to Oreos?

Free pack of Oreos for the best answer!]
 
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No, no, no, you're misinterpreting this completely. You're starting from the assumption that rats (or children, or smokers, or people in general) have any intelligence. This has now been proved to be completely wrong. It's like the Ptolemaic system in astronomy - intelligent people believed in it, but then Copernicus came along, flipped the whole thing inside out, and everything became much simpler.

There is no such thing as intelligence. What people mistake for intelligence is just a manifestation of the fifth fundamental force of nature: like magnetism, it draws living things irresistibly towards things containing Addictium. (Evidence is emerging that the Ptolemy cunningly stuffed large quantities of Addictium into his theory, the sneaky b*st**d - this is why people believed in it for so long). So what's actually happening with your rats is:

1. Rat A goes for the Oreo-centre, drawn in by the Addictium contained in it.

2. Oreo-centres are singularities ripped in the fabric of space-time by concentrations of Addictium beyond our imagination. That much Addictium simply cannot exist in one Universe - thus the laws of the Universe are suspended. The outside parts of the Oreo are the event horizons: once you take them off and your eyes behold the naked singularity, there's no going back. (To conceal the true, sinister nature of these Irresistible Black Holes of Evil, Big Sugar cunningly colours them white).

2. As Rat A approaches the Oreo, tidal forces in the titanic Addictial field emanating from the Oreo tear apart its brain structure, causing it to think it might be quite enjoying this.

3. The total collapse of Rat's A's brain-structure under the Oreo-influence gives off a deadly cloud of high-energy (8 YeV) particles called addictons. Nobel prizewinner Peter Higgs speculates that addictons are made up of quarks of flavour Gloopy, JazzFunk and CherryMint, but needs a bigger collider to prove this.

4. Their brains hopelessly irradiated by addictons, Rats B, C and so on are drawn into the sphere of influence of the Oreo, thinking "I want a part of this!", only to fall hopelessly beyond the event horizon into the gaping maw of the singularity, eventually emerging elsewhere in the space-time continuum as giant babies. (Or was that last bit in a film I saw once?)

This also explains scientifically why one person, anywhere, smoking or doing something that looks a bit like smoking, constitutes a public-health disaster worse than the Black Death.

[Philosophy Break Time!

If one child eats one Oreo in a forest, but there are no "scientists" to observe it, is the child addicted to Oreos?

Free pack of Oreos for the best answer!]

IMO, quite possibly the funniest post ever! :lol:

Q: If one child eats one Oreo in a forest, but there are no "scientists" to observe it, is the child addicted to Oreos?

A: If there are no "scientists" to observe it, the question is irrevelant, because no one else gives a flying f:censored:k...
 
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