On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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Mowgli

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It appears that many states do effectively ban online tobacco products sales even though they do not specifically state this.
Many exempt pipe tobacco and cigars though.
Not to rouse any rabble but Dimi answered my similar question on Smoke Free Radio tonight.
I asked if USPS could refuse to deliver vapemail if/when it's officially classified as tobacco.
He said yes, but it would be hard to enforce.
Terrifying.
 
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I thought they had until August? :confused:

They do. Here is the calendar. This is federal though. I guess that the state could enforce at any time.

The Vapor Technology Association has released an extremely useful document, outlining the key dates in the deeming implementation, and what manufacturers and suppliers must do to remain on the market.

I won't say anything more just now, but take a look through and understand that the implications of deeming do not start in 2018, but start almost immediately....
 

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There are probably many vendors in violation of state laws right now. It has only been a few weeks since vapor products have been deemed tobacco. They have to give them some time to comply.
If you believe that i have sone nice ocean front property to sell you ib AZ.

THESE DARN BUREAUCRATS ACT AS IF TGEY DON'T HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.
 

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If you believe that i have sone nice ocean front property to sell you ib AZ.

THESE DARN BUREAUCRATS ACT AS IF TGEY DON'T HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.

FYI- Implying that I or anyone else in this thread are not as smart as you are is not really being very helpful at all.

If you actually considered some of what others are saying, you may learn something. You have to have an open mind in order to do that though.
 

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No I did not show photo ID. Didn't need to...


Statute 14-313
This part follows what Robert already copied and pasted...

(b2) Internet distribution of tobacco products. - A person engaged in the distribution of tobacco products through the Internet or other remote sales methods shall perform an age verification through an independent, third-party age verification service that compares information available from public records to the personal information entered by the individual during the ordering process to establish that the individual ordering the tobacco products is 18 years of age or older.
 

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FYI- Implying that I or anyone else in this thread are not as smart as you are is not really being very helpful at all.

If you actually considered some of what others are saying, you may learn something. You have to have an open mind in order to do that though.

I was using an old joke.

Where did i say or imply that i was smarter than you or anyone.

I just know Bureaucrats. Give them an inch snd they take a mile.

Look at MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving.) At first that wanted 1.0 alcohol. Then they pressured for .8. Now they want .6. They are never satisfied with yes. They really want 0.0. But these Bureaucrats just keep chipping away at our liberties till we have none left.

Tge department of education doesnt educate s single child but has full Control over what is taught in public schools. Look how hard they have fought to stop vouchers.

Look how the freedim of speech has been quashed with this politically correctness.

Look how they EPA is controlling how land can and can't be used by the land owner.

Look at his residents in Colorado are b
Not allosed to catch the Rain Falling on their own roof.

The legislature is supposed to write the laws. Recently 90% of all new regulations are coming out of the mess of Bureaucrats in tge dept education, the EPA, and now the FDA.

When are thezey sheeple going to rise up and say NO MORE?
 

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No I did not show photo ID. Didn't need to...


Statute 14-313
This part follows what Robert already copied and pasted...

(b2) Internet distribution of tobacco products. - A person engaged in the distribution of tobacco products through the Internet or other remote sales methods shall perform an age verification through an independent, third-party age verification service that compares information available from public records to the personal information entered by the individual during the ordering process to establish that the individual ordering the tobacco products is 18 years of age or older.

Some States and fdAy on 8/8/16 require photo ID.
 

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Please explain how MFS is violating NC law. When I use my credit card to make a purchase the card ID identifies me as of lawful age to buy such products. Kinda harsh accusation!
A credit card has your age?
It clearly lists the ID's acceptable and a credit card is not one.
It also lists vape products....
 
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If you believe that i have sone nice ocean front property to sell you ib AZ.

THESE DARN BUREAUCRATS ACT AS IF TGEY DON'T HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.
The funny thing is, NOBODY has to OBEY any law :lol: We said that we were in the wild wild west of vaping pre- deeming. No, we were in an infancy state, a new market had emerged, unforseen it had grown till it's impact was unsettling the money game in play.

Post deeming we will see the wild wild west. Vaping will NEVER go away, the genie is already out of the bottle. What we will see is smuggled goods, delivery devices, highly concentrated nicotine, and there will be consequences. People will be poisoned from mis-handling of this highly concentrated nicotine. Quality of black market goods will be questionable. We know that it is safer to vape than to smoke, so some of us will venture into purchasing dubious goods. This is all inevitable. History repeats itself. Oh, and eventually, if things go as the fools at the federal level plan them to, things will eventually become criminalized to quell the tide of the new black market. We have already gone down this road several times in America, but the fools think they can actually control peoples behaviours with laws. How wrong they are. I laugh at the possibilities from these foolishly crafted deeming regs. Eventually the tobacco game will be over, the lies and corruption from enslaving countless millions to a deadly addiction to profit the state will be shone into the light of day.

BTW, when you see a smoker, thank them, they are paying with their life to keep this farce of a free country afloat from bankruptcy. They should be praised rather than bullied for their addiction. Yup, I'm a little bitter right now...
 

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Ever hear of LOST (Law Of the Sea Treaty that us terrifinh

We have already lost 2/3 of our first ammendment free speech and religius freedim.

We are 1 supreme court justice from losing our 2nd ammendment.

Chief justice Roberts has already changed Obama care law Twice.

Im a firm believer in the Klingon motto

"Better to die on our feet than live on our knees."

When will these sheeple wake up?
 
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The funny thing is, NOBODY has to OBEY any law :lol: We said that we were in the wild wild west of vaping pre- deeming. No, we were in an infancy state, a new market had emerged, unforseen it had grown till it's impact was unsettling the money game in play.

Post deeming we will see the wild wild west. Vaping will NEVER go away, the genie is already out of the bottle. What we will see is smuggled goods, delivery devices, highly concentrated nicotine, and there will be consequences. People will be poisoned from mis-handling of this highly concentrated nicotine. Quality of black market goods will be questionable. We know that it is safer to vape than to smoke, so some of us will venture into purchasing dubious goods. This is all inevitable. History repeats itself. Oh, and eventually, if things go as the fools at the federal level plan them to, things will eventually become criminalized to quell the tide of the new black market. We have already gone down this road several times in America, but the fools think they can actually control peoples behaviours with laws. How wrong they are. I laugh at the possibilities from these foolishly crafted deeming regs. Eventually the tobacco game will be over, the lies and corruption from enslaving countless millions to a deadly addiction to profit the state will be shone into the light of day.

BTW, when you see a smoker, thank them, they are paying with their life to keep this farce of a free country afloat from bankruptcy. They should be praised rather than bullied for their addiction. Yup, I'm a little bitter right now...

You are correct but there are supposed to be penalties for those that break the lsw.
 
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