On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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I just used some Wizard Nic mix that expired in 2014 so I must have bought in 2013. Not frozen or kept cold and was in a plastic bottle. I'm vaping it now and it seems fine. My one flavor in it seemed a bit flat so I added more flavor but the Nic level is fine. No weird smell at all, just bit of yellowing but not much.
A buddy of mine bought the vapocalypse.org & vapocalypse.us domains.
Alternatives are his intended focus
WL will have to get a tobacco retail license after 8-10.
Also no mail order from WL? This from the FL statutes.
569.007 Sale or delivery of tobacco products; restrictions.—
(1) In order to prevent persons under 18 years of age from purchasing or receiving tobacco products, the sale or delivery of tobacco products is prohibited, except:
(a) When under the direct control or line of sight of the dealer or the dealer’s agent or employee; or
(b) Sales from a vending machine are prohibited under the provisions of paragraph (1)(a) and are only permissible from a machine that is equipped with an operational lockout device which is under the control of the dealer or the dealer’s agent or employee who directly regulates the sale of items through the machine by triggering the lockout device to allow the dispensing of one tobacco product. The lockout device must include a mechanism to prevent the machine from functioning if the power source for the lockout device fails or if the lockout device is disabled, and a mechanism to ensure that only one tobacco product is dispensed at a time.
(2) The provisions of subsection (1) shall not apply to an establishment that prohibits persons under 18 years of age on the licensed premises.
(3) The provisions of subsection (1) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of cigars and pipe tobacco.
(4) A dealer or a dealer’s agent or employee may require proof of age of a purchaser of a tobacco product before selling the product to that person.
(5) A wholesale dealer or distributing agent, as those terms are defined in s. 210.01, or a distributor, as defined in s. 210.25, may sell or deliver tobacco products only to dealers who have permits.
Also no mail order from WL? This from the FL statutes.
569.007 Sale or delivery of tobacco products; restrictions.—
(1) In order to prevent persons under 18 years of age from purchasing or receiving tobacco products, the sale or delivery of tobacco products is prohibited, except:
(a) When under the direct control or line of sight of the dealer or the dealer’s agent or employee; or
(b) Sales from a vending machine are prohibited under the provisions of paragraph (1)(a) and are only permissible from a machine that is equipped with an operational lockout device which is under the control of the dealer or the dealer’s agent or employee who directly regulates the sale of items through the machine by triggering the lockout device to allow the dispensing of one tobacco product. The lockout device must include a mechanism to prevent the machine from functioning if the power source for the lockout device fails or if the lockout device is disabled, and a mechanism to ensure that only one tobacco product is dispensed at a time.
(2) The provisions of subsection (1) shall not apply to an establishment that prohibits persons under 18 years of age on the licensed premises.
(3) The provisions of subsection (1) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of cigars and pipe tobacco.
(4) A dealer or a dealer’s agent or employee may require proof of age of a purchaser of a tobacco product before selling the product to that person.
(5) A wholesale dealer or distributing agent, as those terms are defined in s. 210.01, or a distributor, as defined in s. 210.25, may sell or deliver tobacco products only to dealers who have permits.
That would be a best case scenario in my estimation. The way this has been playing out, to me reads a lot like another chapter in US history of prohibition, one we are still living with. Fortunately today, we have the internet, and information travels uninterrupted for whatever that is worth. Reading comments from the general public here and there on hot button vape articles leaves me feeling a little hollow inside as to whether the information age has really brought us as a whole any further in the factual dissemination of knowledge.
I'm just storing it with the rest of my flavorings in a plastic drawer. However, if I need to grab another bottle I'll probably keep it in my fridge.
Do you mix your own stevia in distiller water or PG/ VG?
It appears that many states do effectively ban online tobacco products sales even though they do not specifically state this.
Many exempt pipe tobacco and cigars though.
Many exempt pipe tobacco and cigars though.
That's why I hope everyone grabs nic before then otherwise there are going to be alot of people sol. This is the one thing people cannot sleep on and think they should wait.
Thanks for the reassurance. I may still buy one more. Probably not.
Oops, too late. I already have a liter of it.crxess said:If concerned, purchase the Smallest available sample to try out. Just don't wait to long.
I've got a bad feeling....................
You're not alone. I have that same bad feeling. I think most of us do.
And MFS is located in NC....
MFS is already violating NC law.
North Carolina
Minimum Age:
It is illegal to sell or distribute tobacco products to or for persons under 18 years of age, or to aid, assist or abet another person in selling or distributing tobacco products or cigarette papers to or for minors (other than to employees in the performance of their duties).
Restricted Products:
Any product that contains tobacco and is intended for human consumption, as well as cigarette wrapping papers and, e-cigarettes (i.e., tobacco-derived products and vapor products).
Affirmative Defense:
Proof of any of the following shall be a defense to any action brought under this subsection: (1) the retailer demanded, was shown, and reasonably relied upon proof of age; (2) the retailer relied on the electronic system established and operated by the Division of Motor Vehicles; or (3) the retailer relied on a biometric identification system that demonstrated (i) the purchaser's age to be at least the required age for the purchase and (ii) the purchaser had previously registered with the seller or seller's agent a drivers license, a special state identification card, a military identification card or a passport showing the purchaser's date of birth and bearing a physical description of the person named on the card.
MFS is already violating NC law.
North Carolina
Minimum Age:
It is illegal to sell or distribute tobacco products to or for persons under 18 years of age, or to aid, assist or abet another person in selling or distributing tobacco products or cigarette papers to or for minors (other than to employees in the performance of their duties).
Restricted Products:
Any product that contains tobacco and is intended for human consumption, as well as cigarette wrapping papers and, e-cigarettes (i.e., tobacco-derived products and vapor products).
Affirmative Defense:
Proof of any of the following shall be a defense to any action brought under this subsection: (1) the retailer demanded, was shown, and reasonably relied upon proof of age; (2) the retailer relied on the electronic system established and operated by the Division of Motor Vehicles; or (3) the retailer relied on a biometric identification system that demonstrated (i) the purchaser's age to be at least the required age for the purchase and (ii) the purchaser had previously registered with the seller or seller's agent a drivers license, a special state identification card, a military identification card or a passport showing the purchaser's date of birth and bearing a physical description of the person named on the card.
Nope I get the one I showed above. the powdered stevia is not suitable for vaping.
I will put about 5-6 drops in a 120 ml batch of juice.
There are probably many vendors in violation of state laws right now. It has only been a few weeks since vapor products have been deemed tobacco. They have to give them some time to comply.
Please explain how MFS is violating NC law. When I use my credit card to make a purchase the card ID identifies me as of lawful age to buy such products. Kinda harsh accusation!
I must have missed it, the liquid stevia you use ? I have sweetener for ejuice but use stevia all the time in other foods. I get it powdered or liquid.
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