On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[SleeZy]

It's global madness right now. Between out right bans like the ones in South America and Asia and the rapidly increasing harsh regulations makes me wonder if if sanity and common sense will ever prevail.

I've been using the same 3 Kayfun lites for the last 2 years. I've bought a few tanks since but none ever satisfy like the lites. They're not for everyone of course but they are bullet proof and simple to build on. I can do it in my sleep.

My order has the new v3 mini's in it. I need my wife to get away from disposable coil aerotank minis. If I like the performance I may use one as well for stealth and then order a bunch of the v3+ tanks that hold 3+mls.

Yea i'm with you on that one... There's only 1 simple explanation to these regs, that is money. Which is sad in my opinion, for some reason money always rules, even above common sense. And even knowledge for that matter.

Yea me too! Haha! I've been using my kayfun lites for about 2 years aswell.
I've been ordering some spare parts and going to order some more nic base + some flavors. Then i'll let the time tell. If everything will get doomed and banned or whatnot, i'll prolly just lay of the vaping once my supplies runs dry.
But i also guess that'll depend on the blackmarket aswell. Because there will for sure be BM for vaping products.

 

[Two_Bears]

Sounds like me then! Been using mech + kayfun since... ages... And i'm perfectly happy with them.
I also DIY. However DIY might become hard (in sweden) So i might need to stock up on some Nic. Even more so since, sweden loves to be the worst, we might get it even worse than finland.
TPD Finland

These particularly

Kayfuns are ok. If they had post holes or some easier way to trap the leads it would help my messed up left hand.

 

[crxess]

Looks like flavored ecigs will be allowed so there is even less reason to think that flavors will be an issue.

White House OMB scrapped FDA plan to ban flavors

I will Repost my thoughts on this here:

I hope to Make it Clear to Everyone here

This is the WORST Headline Hit we could take at this time.

It likely has little to do with Calming Vapers Fears, and EVERYTHING to do with Grabbing the Attention of - FOR THE CHILDREN - Shielded, Agenda Driven Lobbyist
Which in turn will Increase their Drive to Have the Cole-Bishop Amendment Stricken from the Final Agriculture Budget Bill.

This is a Fire to Rekindle their Drive to Stomp us out, Not an Extinguisher to Cool our Concerns........or is it Both, to give them less resistance?

DO NOT BE FOOLED - We are Government , we are here to Help You

 

[Bonskibon]

I will Repost my thoughts on this here:

I hope to Make it Clear to Everyone here

This is the WORST Headline Hit we could take at this time.

It likely has little to do with Calming Vapers Fears, and EVERYTHING to do with Grabbing the Attention of - FOR THE CHILDREN - Shielded, Agenda Driven Lobbyist
Which in turn will Increase their Drive to Have the Cole-Bishop Amendment Stricken from the Final Agriculture Budget Bill.

This is a Fire to Rekindle their Drive to Stomp us out, Not an Extinguisher to Cool our Concerns........or is it Both, to give them less resistance?

DO NOT BE FOOLED - We are Government , we are here to Help You

Well that was short lived. Very valid point.

 

[SleeZy]

Kayfuns are ok. If they had ppsy holes or some easudrvway to trap the leads it would help my nessed up left hand.

Yea i can agree, that trapping the leads are pain in the ... at times...

 

[Mowgli]

Two plus years ago, when the Deeming was first proposed/published, I was stressed. It had only been a few months since the miracle of vaping got me off a 36 year old 2 PAD habit in less than one week, and I only had a single liter of nic in my freezer.

But I figured I had a year or so before the bureaucrats could possibly get their act together and their nonsense would take effect. It ended up taking twice that long, and I made the most of it. So stressed now? Nope.

Upset that others in the future won't have the same opportunity I did? Yes, very much so.

We finished off a few liters of Heartland dated 7/2014
About half of my current 2 gallons is from 7/14 & 8/14 (RTS & VT TH)
other half is NN & VT TH from late 2015
I'll have another 250,000mg dated 6/16 (RTS)
Maybe another next month
C Y A

 

[r055co]

I will Repost my thoughts on this here:

I hope to Make it Clear to Everyone here

This is the WORST Headline Hit we could take at this time.

It likely has little to do with Calming Vapers Fears, and EVERYTHING to do with Grabbing the Attention of - FOR THE CHILDREN - Shielded, Agenda Driven Lobbyist
Which in turn will Increase their Drive to Have the Cole-Bishop Amendment Stricken from the Final Agriculture Budget Bill.

This is a Fire to Rekindle their Drive to Stomp us out, Not an Extinguisher to Cool our Concerns........or is it Both, to give them less resistance?

DO NOT BE FOOLED - We are Government , we are here to Help You

I've never been a one issue voter, that is until now. This is such a prime example of the pure corruption that infects all of government.

Everyone needs to write their Representatives on a frequent and regular basis. Let them know if they don't take action to bring the FDA under control they will be replaced.

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[Two_Bears]

I will Repost my thoughts on this here:

I hope to Make it Clear to Everyone here

This is the WORST Headline Hit we could take at this time.

It likely has little to do with Calming Vapers Fears, and EVERYTHING to do with Grabbing the Attention of - FOR THE CHILDREN - Shielded, Agenda Driven Lobbyist
Which in turn will Increase their Drive to Have the Cole-Bishop Amendment Stricken from the Final Agriculture Budget Bill.

This is a Fire to Rekindle their Drive to Stomp us out, Not an Extinguisher to Cool our Concerns........or is it Both, to give them less resistance?

DO NOT BE FOOLED - We are Government , we are here to Help You

I agree Grumpy old man. Just a ploy to geey us to let down our guard.

I trust this corrupt Govt about as far as you would trust a Mad dog.

 

[Two_Bears]

Well that was short lived. Very valid point.

They are NOT GOING to back down until we MAKE THEM. Keep lighting up the phone lined to yout Senators and representatives.

Be polite but be firm.

I vape, i vote, and I will remember when you come up for re-election.

 

[r055co]

I agree Grumpy old man. Just a ploy to geey us to let down our guard.

I trust this corrupt Govt about as far as you would trust a Mad dog.

That's an insult to Mad Dogs!

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[Two_Bears]

Yea i can agree, that trapping the leads are pain in the ... at times...

Even worse for a 61 year old man that only has a thumb and index finger that works on his left hand.

Now you know why i was so excited to learn about the third party RBA that fits the Subtank Nano. I also bought the Serpent Mini. I don't hold out much hope for that though because every top filled Atty (especially authentics) have peed on me.

 

[Mowgli]

I'm retired but expect to split what I can afford between supporting advocacy & stockpiling (1:1)
to

#1. CMA and
#2. ensure that everyone I know and meet in the future has a friend with a supply to help get and/or stay off damn cancersticks

I'm not much of an advocate but I can (and do) encourage & support with as much $$$ as I can afford

DIY and stockpiling is only 1/2 of the solution

 

[Two_Bears]

I've never been a one issue voter, that is until now. This is such a prime example of the pure corruption that infects all of government.

Everyone needs to write their Representatives on a frequent and regular basis. Let them know if they don't take action to bring the FDA under control they will be replaced.

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Me neither but it is time we teach these a lesson. Casing these to lose their cushy Jobs is a good place to start.

 

[Two_Bears]

That's an insult to Mad Dogs!

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I dont see how. Both have about the same degree of integence abd don't care wbo they hurt.

I thought the finding by tge Royal College of Physicians had opened their minds a bit.

 

[Two_Bears]

I'm retired but expect to split what I can afford between supporting advocacy & stockpiling (1:1)
to

#1. CMA and
#2. ensure that everyone I know and meet in the future has a friend with a supply to help get and/or stay off damn cancersticks

I'm not much of an advocate but I can (and do) encourage & support with as much $$$ as I can afford

DIY and stockpiling is only 1/2 of the solution

You're right. Stockpilimg is 2/3 of the solution.

The other 1/3 is lighting up the phone lines to our Senators and representatives.

This is NOT the time to do something stupid!

 

[salemgold]

I will Repost my thoughts on this here:

I hope to Make it Clear to Everyone here

This is the WORST Headline Hit we could take at this time.

It likely has little to do with Calming Vapers Fears, and EVERYTHING to do with Grabbing the Attention of - FOR THE CHILDREN - Shielded, Agenda Driven Lobbyist
Which in turn will Increase their Drive to Have the Cole-Bishop Amendment Stricken from the Final Agriculture Budget Bill.

This is a Fire to Rekindle their Drive to Stomp us out, Not an Extinguisher to Cool our Concerns........or is it Both, to give them less resistance?

DO NOT BE FOOLED - We are Government , we are here to Help You

I don't think that anyone here is naive enough to think that the government or the FDA is our friend or out to help us. It certainly didn't take the deeming regs to make me very aware of that fact.

 

[mikepetro]

This one sentence scared me the most:

"We expect that asserting our authority over these tobacco products will enable us to propose further regulatory action in the future as appropriate"

 

[mikepetro]

I am beginning to understand why some people go "postal"........

 

[VNeil]

This one sentence scared me the most:

"We expect that asserting our authority over these tobacco products will enable us to propose further regulatory action in the future as appropriate"

Probably referring to the inevitable possession and intent to distribute regs directed at DIY

 

[Two_Bears]

I am beginning to understand why some people go "postal"........

Me too.

But now is NOT the time go postal.

Some idiot going postal will put vapers in a very bad light.

We need to prep and get more people involved in advocacy.