On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[chanelvaps]

Once all the states pass what Cali , Arkansas and I think Ill have, MBV and every e-liquid vendor will be out of business except for the residents in their state . Arkansas law didn't affect me because I make my own e-liquid but it still hurt a LOT of other folks

It seems MBV is keeping a close eye on what is happening and jumps on it very quickly. I remember reading that at least one person from Arkansas placed an order for hardware and the purchase was refused. Hopefully MBV has fixed there site to accept hardware orders since it is just the e-liquid that is supposed to be affected.

edited to clarify: No e-liquid is in the Arkansas law. I am not sure about the Cali or Ill law.

so then would you say that if all states pass this one can still buy juice from any vendor that makes it in the state they are in? If this is the case I am thankful for Good Life and Heather Heavenly

 

[mattiem]

so then would you say that if all states pass this one can still buy juice from any vendor that makes it in the state they are in? If this is the case I am thankful for Good Life and Heather Heavenly

The only thing I know right now is, e-liquid has to be bought/sold face to face in the state of Arkansas. I have no idea as to how shops buy their e-liquid for resale if it is made out of state. I just know that as a consumer we are limited to buying e-liquid from a store. Some on-line stores do still ship to Arkansas, some don't.

 

[Yiana]

Talking about age verification...I just placed an order from Madvapes the other day. They have an age verification on their page. It says that they use public information with your name and address to verify something like that and if you have recently moved it may not show up. I tried and said it could not verify. I tried again and entered my old address again it could not verify. I entered in my husband's name and address and it was instantly verified. I am 41. This system is going to cause a lot of headaches. If you can't get verified I'm thinking then you have to send them your ID/driver's license. Thoughts?

 

[DancingHeretik]

The spare bases and chimneys will allow me to make 'cartridges' - prebuilt coils that can be carried around as spares.

That's a great idea. Thanks.

 

[Str8vision]

I know me too, I started buying the first I heard about deeming regs in May, because it can close up way sooner that that because of the state laws kicking in, I am officially done now too, just waiting for all vape mail to arrive

Me too. I began preparing years ago by learning how to make my own NETs and with the recent final purchases of liquid nic and gear I'm now completely self-sufficient for the duration. Nothing state or federal government does will impact my current day-to-day for the next few decades unless -I- choose to allow it to. People who adequately prepare place "control" outside of the government's reach and keep it where it really belongs, in their own hands.

 

[jmur]

Another thing I've been thinking of, not to cause more gloom, but, is the supply question. Nic, for example. I'm thinking if these vendors order supplies by the quarter maybe, with the impending changes coming I doubt if they've been concerned with stocking for their 4th quarter. There probably won't be one.
I'm wondering if we're looking at shortages appearing very soon...
My final order is going in today. Just too much of a gamble to wait for July 4th sales.

 

[bnrkwest]

Another thing I've been thinking of, not to cause more gloom, but, is the supply question. Nic, for example. I'm thinking if these vendors order supplies by the quarter maybe, with the impending changes coming I doubt if they've been concerned with stocking for their 4th quarter. There probably won't be one.
I'm wondering if we're looking at shortages appearing very soon...
My final order is going in today. Just too much of a gamble to wait for July 4th sales.

Finding juice or supplies may look like this......................

 

[Tom Waznis]

So I've bought several extra tanks (STMs), extra replacement glass, tank bases/afc units, and RBAs. I've also purchased a few extra mods, and plan to buy more. I'm about to venture into DIY juice, and start stocking up on nicotine base as well.

Quick question to those that have stocked up extra mods: is it better to rotate through your mods and keep them all going, or should I just leave the extras in the box after testing and cycle through them as mods die?

Don't rotate. Test out and store unless it has a built in battery. Build decks are about all that will really long term matter along with creative building skill. If you just want to cover a few years keep at it!

 

[GaryInTexas]

Inventory status=Full

Concern for myself on FDA Tobacco Company Support regs= None

Desire to conform to any more desires of Government rule dreamer uppers=Zilch, nada, nope

 

[57chilicat]

That may be fairly expensive.
Compare Size pricing to 1 liter and see what works best. Make sure you are looking at Ships in GLASS or there is more expense to transfer for long term.
1 Liter - 2-16oz bottles or 4-240ml Bottles - etc.
I picked up a Case (12) of 240 ml bottles and transferred 1 liter for first use. Each goes into 50ml containers once opened.

I did mean that I am buying liter bottles! Then to rebottle that I was thinking 120 ml bottles. It's just me that vapes and I guess I don't get the process! Once I have to open the 120 ml bottle can I put it in two 60 ml bottles and put a 60 ml back in the freezer? So in short, I guess what I am asking is if I buy 240 ml bottles can I open that 240 ml multiple times to make smaller bottles to keep out for mixing? I just don't know how many times I can open a bottle and not mess up my nic base! I would love to go with the larger bottles!

 

[57chilicat]

I am looking at bottles from glass bottle outlet and they are so low priced compared to some other companies! I want really good amber bottles because they are going to be in the freezer a really long time!
NN has bottles but they are a bit pricey! But I don't mind paying more if it protects my nic!
Any bottle companies that would be recommended???

 

[mattiem]

I did mean that I am buying liter bottles! Then to rebottle that I was thinking 120 ml bottles. It's just me that vapes and I guess I don't get the process! Once I have to open the 120 ml bottle can I put it in two 60 ml bottles and put a 60 ml back in the freezer? So in short, I guess what I am asking is if I buy 240 ml bottles can I open that 240 ml multiple times to make smaller bottles to keep out for mixing? I just don't know how many times I can open a bottle and not mess up my nic base! I would love to go with the larger bottles!

I personally go for the bigger bottles to begin with. When I need more nic I transfer all of that big bottle to smaller bottles. You want to have as little head space in the bottle as possible when putting them in the freezer. If you go with the 240ml bottle to begin with you will also need 4 60ml or 8 30ml bottles. The size depends on how much you are leaving out to work with. If you go with 120 ml bottles to start with the process is the same. You will just need fewer smaller bottles.

 

[ENAUD]

I did mean that I am buying liter bottles! Then to rebottle that I was thinking 120 ml bottles. It's just me that vapes and I guess I don't get the process! Once I have to open the 120 ml bottle can I put it in two 60 ml bottles and put a 60 ml back in the freezer? So in short, I guess what I am asking is if I buy 240 ml bottles can I open that 240 ml multiple times to make smaller bottles to keep out for mixing? I just don't know how many times I can open a bottle and not mess up my nic base! I would love to go with the larger bottles!

I have a process, I've got some 500 ml and 250 ml bottles for long term. I've also got a bunch of 120ml bottles. When I break open a 120ml bottle, I divide that up into 30ml bottles, and or into some 50ml bottles that I have.

I have warmed, taken some out, an re-chilled nic several times with my working bottles, as when I am not using it, it's all kept in the freezer. I have never noticed, nor do I expect to notice, any change from warming and re-cooling nic base. I always let it come up to room temp before cracking the seal.

 

[Vandal]

I am looking at bottles from glass bottle outlet and they are so low priced compared to some other companies! I want really good amber bottles because they are going to be in the freezer a really long time!
NN has bottles but they are a bit pricey! But I don't mind paying more if it protects my nic!
Any bottle companies that would be recommended???

I went with Packaging Options Direct. I had seen them recommended on this board several times. When I ordered, their shipping was half price. The bottles seem really high quality and service was quick.

 

[Rossum]

I am looking at bottles from glass bottle outlet and they are so low priced compared to some other companies! I want really good amber bottles because they are going to be in the freezer a really long time!
NN has bottles but they are a bit pricey! But I don't mind paying more if it protects my nic!
Any bottle companies that would be recommended???

It's dark inside your freezer, right? Hence color shouldn't matter.

Personally, I'd worry more about the quality of the caps than the quality of the glass.

I've used glass bottle outlet and have no qualms with what I got from them.

 

[ENAUD]

I am looking at bottles from glass bottle outlet and they are so low priced compared to some other companies! I want really good amber bottles because they are going to be in the freezer a really long time!
NN has bottles but they are a bit pricey! But I don't mind paying more if it protects my nic!
Any bottle companies that would be recommended???

I'm thinking of ordering a liter or two from a new to me vendor, depending on how I like the sample I had shipped to me. I don't want to spend any money on more glass, so that will get divvied up into some brown beer bottles I have in the attic and get sealed with crimped crown caps.

 

[57chilicat]

So if I get 4 liters I should get about 17 240 ml bottles and then some 60 or 30 ml bottles! That sounds very doable for me!

 

[mattiem]

It's dark inside your freezer, right? Hence color shouldn't matter.

Personally, I'd worry more about the quality of the caps than the quality of the glass.

I've used glass bottle outlet and have no qualms with what I got from them.

I wrap my bottles of nic in aluminum foil so the color of my bottles doesn't matter at all. I just ordered some more 120ml clear glass. The clear is usually a lot cheaper than either amber or blue. I try to save when ever I can.

 

[Str8vision]

I used 120ml Boston round bottles and when filled into the tapered part of the neck they actually held closer to 125ml each.

 

[57chilicat]

It's dark inside your freezer, right? Hence color shouldn't matter.

Personally, I'd worry more about the quality of the caps than the quality of the glass.

I've used glass bottle outlet and have no qualms with what I got from them.

The freezer is really dark! The appliance bulb went out over six months ago and we always forget to get a new bulb! Now there is no need!
Thanks for the thumbs up on GBO! They do have black poly cone caps. Those should be good? Right?