I won't even store my food in plastic anymore. Glass and stainless steel only. I don't want to eat toxins, and I am sure done with inhaling them. I would really recommend glass. To me, it's a health issue.
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Vaping stuff is not a tobacco product until 8-8-2016....
Per FDA regulations.
I enjoy rebuilding. Build to a resistance where my Juice tastes better, and get cobsistent Vapes from the my style of wicking.
Yes. I only used tge #1 plastic bottle once. When empty tossed into the garbage.
#1 plastic has no BPA in them.
I have had #1 plastic bottles in the freezer for two years.
We've had to go through and clean up political stuff that doesn't belong, over the top rhetoric and other things that do not belong in this discussion thread. Let's keep that in mind before pressing the submit button. Otherwise, we'll just have to shut the thread down.
Oops! That point was probably already made, but Retired1 cleaned the discussion up. In practice, federal does not necessarily trump state.
Thanks. I had calculated the current draw of the fan, and have 1.5w pot that is rated over what the fan will supposedly draw.
But I hadn't considered that the fan wouldn't run at lower voltages. I guess I would have found out the hard way.
I still want variable speed, so I ordered a PWM controller. Was only $2 more than what the pot would cost to replace- so I guess my stirrer will now cost me around $17. Maybe $20 if I put a switch and LED in it.
May just put a couple vacuum tubes on the top of the case, just to get the whole mad scientist vibe going. Gotta have fun, right?
I guess I really don't understand the need for a stirrer of any kind unless you are making massive amounts of e-liquid at a time. I make my 5 or 6 favorites 60 mls at a time. I mix it right in the bottle it is going to be stored in. I add the flavorings (some mixes have up to 8), cap and shake. Add the nic, cap and shake, add the rest of the base mix (pg/vg mix) cap and shake again. If I am going to vape it right away I give it a couple a hot water baths to help steep/mix it but usually I already have some ready to vape so just put the new mix in my steeping box and it is ready to go whenever I need it. I transfer some from that stored bottle to my working 30 ml bottle and when it is empty just mix some more in it.
I am retired so I have no problem finding time to make sure I never run out of steeped favorites
I do understand that not everyone has the same kind of time.
I am retired so I have no problem finding time to make sure I never run out of steeped favorites
I do understand that not everyone has the same kind of time.The desire for the mix plate is several fold for me.
I'm kinda ocd- a function of my autism, I think. Since I can't look at it and tell it is mixed properly, or gauge it somehow, I always have to shake it "a little more". With a stir plate, I can turn it on and go do something else.
Too, putting 100mg base into 4-6mg juice, a through mix is critical. I could easily walk out the door with 10mL of juice, but no nic, if I didn't get it mixed thoroughly. Yes, I could cut the 100mg before cutting it into the finished juice, but that doesn't negate the need for a good mix before cutting.
if I put up any more base, I think I want to stir it throughly before bottling, a stir plate will make that easy: stir one, bottle that one while the next is stirring...
We also brew beer and make wine, so I can mix our yeast pitches on it.
Oh...and it only cost $20 in parts, and will be hella fun to make. That's worth the $20, alone, to me.
I'm kinda ocd- a function of my autism, I think. Since I can't look at it and tell it is mixed properly, or gauge it somehow, I always have to shake it "a little more". With a stir plate, I can turn it on and go do something else.
Too, putting 100mg base into 4-6mg juice, a through mix is critical. I could easily walk out the door with 10mL of juice, but no nic, if I didn't get it mixed thoroughly. Yes, I could cut the 100mg before cutting it into the finished juice, but that doesn't negate the need for a good mix before cutting.
if I put up any more base, I think I want to stir it throughly before bottling, a stir plate will make that easy: stir one, bottle that one while the next is stirring...
We also brew beer and make wine, so I can mix our yeast pitches on it.
Oh...and it only cost $20 in parts, and will be hella fun to make. That's worth the $20, alone, to me.
They are both very stable. I've always left them in plastic and on a shelf with zero issues. Never for longer than a year though. I'm not sure pg can ever "spoil". Not sure about vg.
I also make Wine.
I make my yeast starter by grinding a single serving box of raisins with water then add sugar and yeast.
oops, I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with a stirrer. I was just trying to understand why it was needed and also letting others new to mixing that for me personally, it is unnecessary.
and hehehehehehe I wouldn't try to keep one from having FUN
In the beginning I was very .... about mixing juice. Did everything to the drop, recorded it all in a SS, played with all sorts of ratios and Unicorn Drops etc.
Now, I have gotten lazy. I vape at 36mgl. Now I just mix up a bulk batch of 50/50 40mgl base. This way I know I can add roughly 10% flavoring to it and hit my mark. So I take an empty 30ml bottle, add up to 3ml flavor, and fill up with my unflavored base, give it a shake and vape. The 10% math is always super easy regardless of what size empty bottle I use.
YMMV, works for me.....
Now, I have gotten lazy. I vape at 36mgl. Now I just mix up a bulk batch of 50/50 40mgl base. This way I know I can add roughly 10% flavoring to it and hit my mark. So I take an empty 30ml bottle, add up to 3ml flavor, and fill up with my unflavored base, give it a shake and vape. The 10% math is always super easy regardless of what size empty bottle I use.
YMMV, works for me.....
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If bottles with PG/VG were never opened and stored in cool place (like air-conditioned room) they should be good for at least 2-3 years (manufacturers tested it), may be more.
Coco Dahling! Good morning! I've done a LOT of research lately, and I am finding something very odd. Nicotine before it is mixed with VG and PG is outrageously stable. It seems that dissolution and oxygen that becomes absorbed in the bases is the real menace to nicotine.
The 3 things detrimental to nicotine, I believe in order of most severe to least, are:
UV light
Oxygen
Heat
Plastic is oxygen permeable. Glass is not. For long term storage, beyond a year for a rough rule of thumb, I would avoid plastic. And that is providing that it is kept dark and cool. Here is an interesting test that was done. It only goes out 4 months, but it isn't difficult to extrapolate the results.
Madvapes Blog - Nicotine Concentration Over Time | Madvapes
I bet I am lazier than you are.
I vape at 5 mg. I measure 5 ml of 100 mg of nic, put it in my 125 ml bottle, pour some PG in (about 40%, but I never measure it), and finally top it with VG - up to the level of about 100 ml. Shake, heat it in hot water in a stopped sink for 10 min (to make it less viscous), shake again. Ready to go. I do not use more than 5% of flavorings, so any changes in concentrations because of flavors are negligible.
I built my stirrer mostly because I just like building things, but one advantage is that it decreases potential for accidents with concentrated nicotine solution.
I add nicotine last, and when I pour it in, it is immediately sucked down to the bottom and mixed in by the vortex.
This means that there is no concentrated nicotine lingering around anywhere like the sides of the breaker etc, and if I was to spill the breaker, I know that the contents are already diluted to a not so hazardous concentration.
This advantage alone is not really big enough to warrant making a stirrer, but it's a nice bonus.
I add nicotine last, and when I pour it in, it is immediately sucked down to the bottom and mixed in by the vortex.
This means that there is no concentrated nicotine lingering around anywhere like the sides of the breaker etc, and if I was to spill the breaker, I know that the contents are already diluted to a not so hazardous concentration.
This advantage alone is not really big enough to warrant making a stirrer, but it's a nice bonus.
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