On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[dcdozer]

Thank you so much for being so willing to help me out. I was sooooo worried about finding a new person to take care of my herd of cats, and I'm sure I could count on a fellow vapin' cat lover such as yourself to step up to the task.

OK - the charade is up. I'm definitely not worthy. I'm more of a dog person, actually.

 

[Debadoo]

Yikes. Okay, I am glad it was cheap, but wish I would have asked here first. So, honestly, what would you recommend in that price range? All of my experience is with ITaste and similar. Would buy 50 of those if I could afford to, but I was reading that mechanical was the way to go for stockpiling.

There are other mechs, but honestly, for longevity, if it's affordable for you, I'd get a reo or two and a couple Rm2 atomizers. You don't have to drip with a Reo, there is a bottle inside the mod, you squeeze the bottle, and juice feeds up into the atomizer from the bottom. Since you're a tootle puffer, the Rm2 would suit you fine, and you can't hardly find an atomizer that is easier to build on. I would also suggest getting a coil master V3 coil jig, makes a beautiful coil, and it couldn't be easier. Turn a knob, that's it once you get used to the amt of pressure or lack of it that you need to apply. You can't destroy a Reo. They've been run over by giant logging trucks, run over by cars, lawn mowers etc and they still vape if you put a new atty on.........cuz the atty does get destroyed with that kind of abuse lol Watch a couple vids on reos, and maybe visit reosmods.com or the lounge The Reonauts new lounge there are plenty of folks that are more than willing to help. Someone saw your post, and posted in the Reo lounge for someone to come help ya. Any questions, you can always pm me or I'll even volunteer Enaud lol

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks zoiD

Hey No Problem ENAUD.

I am by no means a Mech Expert. But both of these are pretty well made and Easy to Tune.

 

[Two_Bears]

So, up until the Deeming Regs came out, I'd been pretty much tootlepuffing away, picking up my coils and juice once a month and going about my business. But, now I am in the process of stocking up. The thing is, I don't know what I am doing. I bought my first mechanical mod (an EHPro SMPL), along with a Kayfun Lite Plus. I've never used a mech mod or rebuilt before. How many do you think I should buy?

Also: Is there any point at all to stockpiling standard tanks and coils? I have a bunch of PBC's and TDux tanks and a year's worth of TDux coils. Should I put these in the stockpile, or just use them in my daily rig as I stockpile mechanical and rebuildable stuff? Do these standard coils lose their ability to wick and fire after awhile? I'm a guy who has never rebuilt or gotten into subohm vaping. If the FDA hadn't stepped in, I'd never consider it. I need a stockpiling for dummies guide.

If it were me. I would get nicotine while the getting is good.

Then get a few backup attys and mods. Lastly flavors for eJuice.

8/8/2016 nicotine is labeled a tobacco product and sone States will be taxing like crazy, and some States prohibit buying on internet.

Get an eJuice calculator such as Ejuice me up, and play with it for a few weeks till you understand it.

You said yoy have coil heads to last a year. start DIYing Juice.

Later learn rebuilding and how to wick the coils

The hardest part of rebuilding is wicking.

Too tight and you get burned hits. Too loose it pops and spits.

Here is how i wick. You want the wick tight but still able to slide

When the cotton is saturated the cotton will expand filling the coil perfectly.

If you have the cotton super tight it will not have room to wick properly.

Good luck.

 

[Two_Bears]

Can us non-provari people still post in this thread? If so I will report another Evic Mini arrived today. Tested and in the stash box.

I had a couple provaris but sold them. I also like the eVic VTC Mini snd istick Pico

They havent run me out yet.

 

[satchvai]

I had a couple provaris but sold them. I also like the eVic VTC Mini snd istick Pico

They havent run me out yet.

Have two Pico's on the way. Also have three DNA 200, 2 Realeuxs, Istick 50, Sigelei 150 TC, 3 tube mods and a noisy cricket. Also have a couple Evod spinners from when I started. Hopefully that will hold me for a bit!

 

[Two_Bears]

Yikes. Okay, I am glad it was cheap, but wish I would have asked here first. So, honestly, what would you recommend in that price range? All of my experience is with ITaste and similar. Would buy 50 of those if I could afford to, but I was reading that mechanical was the way to go for stockpiling.

I recommend regulated mods. For me i like the istick Pico and eVic VTC Mini.

I have a Kepler mech in the bottom of the bin when and only when my 8 regulated mods have went to mod heaven.

Simply I HATE MECHS. A regulated mod is 20 times safer, abd you can dial the amount of power you like and the voltage doesnt fall off as fast as a mech.

 

[Two_Bears]

Have two Pico's on the way. Also have three DNA 200, 2 Realeuxs, Istick 50, Sigelei 150 TC, 3 tube mods and a noisy cricket. Also have a couple Evod spinners from when I started. Hopefully that will hold me for a bit!

I LOVE the istick Pico. Liked it so much i bought another.

I like if because it is more pocket friendly than the eVic, Cloupor Mini plus.

 

[salemgold]

Actually...........there are a Few Reputable Vendors ON Fleabay.
Lightening Vapes - Wire/etc.
R-lsales - Batteries/chargers

I Have done business with both for a few years - not one issue
Can't say that about FatDaddy

I could not agree more. Plus, you get the added Ebay protection policy if you don't get what you ordered. I have made several excellent purchases there myself.

 

[dcdozer]

I LOVE the istick Pico. Liked it so much i bought another.

I like if because it is more pocket friendly than the eVic, Cloupor Mini plus.

I "grew up" in the vaping world on Kanger. Now that we're in stockpile mode, I'm buying any mod on sale that appeals to me to expand the portfolio. I've bought several PICOs for the wife (this is all she wants), and for myself I've ordered stuff from several different companies on sale including:

1 PICO (they can't ALL be for her!)
1 sigelei 75w
1 sigelei spark 95w
1 wismec presa 100w
1 koopor mini 60w

The PICO seems to be a popular choice. Am I making a mistake by getting all these various models on sale for myself, and consigning myself to begging my wife for a PICO if vapocolypse hits? Or does this lineup seem solid?

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

[Debadoo]

Simply I HATE MECHS. A regulated mod is 20 times safer, abd you can dial the amount of power you like and the voltage doesnt fall off as fast as a mech.

Don't wanna get into a debate, as each person likes what they like. But with a quality mech, you have built in safety mechanisms, like a collapsible spring that will drop your battery away from the firing pin immediately in case of a short. Plus, you aren't stressing your batteries with a mech. With a regulated mod, you're making your battery do more than it would normally do, so it stresses the battery somewhat. You're also relying on a chip, that can fail, to save you.

 

[philbh]

Don't wanna get into a debate, as each person likes what they like. But with a quality mech, you have built in safety mechanisms, like a collapsible spring that will drop your battery away from the firing pin immediately in case of a short. Plus, you aren't stressing your batteries with a mech. With a regulated mod, you're making your battery do more than it would normally do, so it stresses the battery somewhat. You're also relying on a chip, that can fail, to save you.

Regarding battery stress, I disagree. it depends what you are doing. Battery stress would be inversely relative to resistance... subohm coils can definitely stress a battery. And you don't necessarily draw high current with regulated mods either.

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[r055co]

Don't wanna get into a debate, as each person likes what they like. But with a quality mech, you have built in safety mechanisms, like a collapsible spring that will drop your battery away from the firing pin immediately in case of a short. Plus, you aren't stressing your batteries with a mech. With a regulated mod, you're making your battery do more than it would normally do, so it stresses the battery somewhat. You're also relying on a chip, that can fail, to save you.

Love mechs, I vowed at one time I would never use them. Well government changed all that, guess that is the only positive thing about the FDA regulations.

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[Debadoo]

I disagree. it depends what you are doing. Battery stress would be relative to resistance. Inversely... subohm coils can definitely stress a battery. And you don't necessarily draw high current with regulated mods either.

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You could be correct, I'm not a battery expert by any means, but seems to me that when a battery naturally drains, and you're still demanding a certain amount of power (watts) out of it, that it would put a certain amount of stress on it.

 

[r055co]

OK got another 2 liters of 100mg nic.......
Mmmmmmm more room for at least another 3 or 4........... Mmmmmmmmmmm decisions, decisions

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[Bob Chill]

I "grew up" in the vaping world on Kanger. Now that we're in stockpile mode, I'm buying any mod on sale that appeals to me to expand the portfolio. I've bought several PICOs for the wife (this is all she wants), and for myself I've ordered stuff from several different companies on sale including:

1 PICO (they can't ALL be for her!)
1 sigelei 75w
1 sigelei spark 95w
1 wismec presa 100w
1 koopor mini 60w

The PICO seems to be a popular choice. Am I making a mistake by getting all these various models on sale for myself, and consigning myself to begging my wife for a PICO if vapocolypse hits? Or does this lineup seem solid?

Thanks in advance for the input.

IMHO- no, your aren't making any mistakes with regulated mods. Nobody knows how durable any model is. I have a 2 year old istick 30 that's still kicking but the internal batt will definitely die sometime.

A diversified portfolio is smart. We have to think in terms of many years now. It's weird and it sucks but we have to do it regardless. I have 4 pico's but have no idea how long they will last. I've odered Cloupors and Evics to spread risk. And will continue to add mods for the next couple months.

I prefer smaller box style mods and will buy any model that I think looks good from any manufacturer. My only requirements are 40 watts minimum and 18650 removable with a cost under $50. I personally don't think higher price = more longevity. I'd much rather buy 3 capable $35 mods instead of 1 for $100.

The only regulated mods I've ever tossed were internal battery ones. All of my replaceable batt mods still work. I still have a smok SID from 2013 that works fine.

If I had an unlimited budget I may think differently. But I don't so bang for the buck is always at the forefront of my buying choices. I believe that a Pico or evic or Cloupor should last at least 2 years of exclusive use before something goes wrong unless I drop it in a lake or lose it.

It's been very stressful thinking all this stuff through. I might be right or very wrong. Hopefully I have at least 10 years before knowing the answer.

 

[r055co]

I disagree. it depends what you are doing. Battery stress would be relative to resistance. Inversely... subohm coils can definitely stress a battery. And you don't necessarily draw high current with regulated mods either.

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Mech's you are responsible for your safety, not a computer chip that will fail

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[Debadoo]

Love mechs, I vowed at one time I would never use them. Well government changed all that, guess that is the only positive thing about the FDA regulations.

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Jup, that was why I learned over a year ago to build coils, DIY and went to a mech. I'd always known the only mech I personally trusted was a Reo. There are probably other quality mechs out there, but for me, I just don't trust tube mechs. Especially the ones that have their vent holes on the bottom

 

[crxess]

Corolla RTA.............drip,drip,drip......
Tiny(thin) lower glass o-ring is a pain to get to seal. finally got it and will leave it alone as long as possible. Then I'll dig up a slightly thicker o-ring replacement.
Now glad I have a couple of TD RTA's coming.

 

[dcdozer]

IMHO- no, your aren't making any mistakes with regulated mods. Nobody knows how durable any model is. I have a 2 year old istick 30 that's still kicking but the internal batt will definitely die sometime.

A diversified portfolio is smart. We have to think in terms of many years now. It's weird and it sucks but we have to do it regardless. I have 4 pico's but have no idea how long they will last. I've odered Cloupors and Evics to spread risk. And will continue to add mods for the next couple months.

I prefer smaller box style mods and will buy any model that I think looks good from any manufacturer. My only requirements are 40 watts minimum and 18650 removable with a cost under $50. I personally don't think higher price = more longevity. I'd much rather buy 3 capable $35 mods instead of 1 for $100.

The only regulated mods I've ever tossed were internal battery ones. All of my replaceable batt mods still work. I still have a smok SID from 2013 that works fine.

If I had an unlimited budget I may think differently. But I don't so bang for the buck is always at the forefront of my buying choices. I believe that a Pico or evic or Cloupor should last at least 2 years of exclusive use before something goes wrong unless I drop it in a lake or lose it.

It's been very stressful thinking all this stuff through. I might be right or very wrong. Hopefully I have at least 10 years before knowing the answer.

Thanks for the info. I'm focused on price of course, but there are so many low priced options that seem solid out there it's just hard to tell which way to go. Especially when you google a certain model that looks interesting, because you find haters and lovers of every single one.

I'm now also looking at the IPV D3 at $45 and thinking, man, that's kinda expensive. Which is laughable compared to what was going on a few months ago, I know. But if I save a little on my next backup mod, I can order that extra 100mg nic base even sooner. But that IPV D3 just looks so nice, with such glowing praise on the internet, and the internet is always right, right?

I've gone crazy with this stockpiling.