Ongoing Costs of E-Cigs
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Get extra attys and bats ASAP. They will go out on you at the worst times. I carry more than one extra for each of my different units wherever I go.
The starter kit I am looking at comes with 2 bats and 2 attys. Is that not enough?
I consider all parts consumables, and as previously mentioned, the atomizers and batteries will go out at the most inopportune time.
Most starter kits come with 2 batteries, so you will find that while you are using one, you have on on charge. If one of those batteries goes bad your are in trouble. Order as many as your budget allows.
Most starter kits come with 1 atomizer, and when that one dies, you are in trouble. Order as many as your budget allows.
As far as the juice cartridges, which is the more consistent part, you can figure 1 - 3 a day, depending on your habit. You can do the math on that one and will get an idea pretty quick on what you need.
I would allow 1 - 2 weeks to receive things you need, so keep that in mind to determine your inventory levels.
Good luck.
Paul
Most starter kits come with 2 batteries, so you will find that while you are using one, you have on on charge. If one of those batteries goes bad your are in trouble. Order as many as your budget allows.
Most starter kits come with 1 atomizer, and when that one dies, you are in trouble. Order as many as your budget allows.
As far as the juice cartridges, which is the more consistent part, you can figure 1 - 3 a day, depending on your habit. You can do the math on that one and will get an idea pretty quick on what you need.
I would allow 1 - 2 weeks to receive things you need, so keep that in mind to determine your inventory levels.
Good luck.
Paul
Both can last from 0 days up to months. It is the most frustrating part of vaping unless you have plenty on hand.
My last purchase of atomizers was 25. I got them for under $5 each for that quantity.
My batteries, well I use a Prodigy by Puresmoker that uses a different battery set up, but I have 5 sets of 2 each, rechargables.
Well, the kit I am considering contains this. I take it you advise ordering more bats and attys in addition to e-liquid:
This kit comes fully complete for a new user in a presentation box which consists of:
2 x Black lithium batteries Blue LED (2 Manual)
2 x Black Atomisers
1 x Charger
1 x Power Line
5 x Atomized Cartridges (Pre-filled)
(unexchangeable) in round or flat tip, Marlboro flavor all HIGH or mixed strength: (2 High, 1 Med, 1 Low, 1 Zero)
1 x Instruction manual
This kit comes fully complete for a new user in a presentation box which consists of:
2 x Black lithium batteries Blue LED (2 Manual)
2 x Black Atomisers
1 x Charger
1 x Power Line
5 x Atomized Cartridges (Pre-filled)
(unexchangeable) in round or flat tip, Marlboro flavor all HIGH or mixed strength: (2 High, 1 Med, 1 Low, 1 Zero)
1 x Instruction manual
Yes, but when I first started, all I used was cartridges. I just gave you the simple answer.
I don't even use cartridges anymore, I just put a few drops of liquid in the atomizer.
There are so many tips and tricks, it would be impossible to put them in here.
Using cartridges, when you notice a taste difference, pop the cartridge off and put a few drops in the cart and maybe a drop or 2 in the atty, and go. You will have to get a feel for this, and you will find tons of methods on doing so. It just takes time to figure it all out and settle into what works for you.
I had an atomizer die in two weeks. Others I've had have lasted 6 weeks and are going strong. They vary. Average is probably a month, but that's based on postings here. If you take care of them, they should last longer. Read threads about the attys for your ecig.
If you are starting with a 510, best to buy a kit (2 batts, 2 attys) and an extra atty and extra batt. Get a PCC case, so you can charge batts on the go. Batts should last around 250 recharges, but that's just what I've read. No where near that many for me yet. Mega batts for 510 are available at Totally Wicked. They last on a charge about 1.8x a regular. So with a few mega batts you tend to not need a PCC case.
The 510 is probably in the long run the most economical PV, as long as you make your own juices. So initial to set yourself up proper with hardware and juices, maybe $150-200. Taking advantage of sales and shopping around are important, but so is having a reliable source, and sometimes there is a trade off there.
2-piece systems with cartomizers tend to be less hassle day to day, but more expensive, and with less flexibility in flavors and strengths. I also got a greensmoke system initially, costing about 2x as much as a full 510 system, and while it is a good system and delivers what it promises, it is not what I generally use on a daily basis.
And like with any tech hobby, the deeper you get into it the more money you spend. I like the science and chemistry of this world, so I spent a fair amount setting up a little mixing lab. You can get bottles, carrying cases, syringes for mixing, special cart filler, pure flavors and large quantities of high-nic juice to mix, extra VG, PG, the list can go on and on. The technology can fit your budget, and most certainly cost far less than analogs, but it can also become fun enough that you want to get more toys, try other models, play with different juices. Its up to you and your needs, home environment, and budget.
Have fun!
If you are starting with a 510, best to buy a kit (2 batts, 2 attys) and an extra atty and extra batt. Get a PCC case, so you can charge batts on the go. Batts should last around 250 recharges, but that's just what I've read. No where near that many for me yet. Mega batts for 510 are available at Totally Wicked. They last on a charge about 1.8x a regular. So with a few mega batts you tend to not need a PCC case.
The 510 is probably in the long run the most economical PV, as long as you make your own juices. So initial to set yourself up proper with hardware and juices, maybe $150-200. Taking advantage of sales and shopping around are important, but so is having a reliable source, and sometimes there is a trade off there.
2-piece systems with cartomizers tend to be less hassle day to day, but more expensive, and with less flexibility in flavors and strengths. I also got a greensmoke system initially, costing about 2x as much as a full 510 system, and while it is a good system and delivers what it promises, it is not what I generally use on a daily basis.
And like with any tech hobby, the deeper you get into it the more money you spend. I like the science and chemistry of this world, so I spent a fair amount setting up a little mixing lab. You can get bottles, carrying cases, syringes for mixing, special cart filler, pure flavors and large quantities of high-nic juice to mix, extra VG, PG, the list can go on and on. The technology can fit your budget, and most certainly cost far less than analogs, but it can also become fun enough that you want to get more toys, try other models, play with different juices. Its up to you and your needs, home environment, and budget.
Have fun!
That's a good kit to start with and may be the one you stick with, but I can't stress enough the extra atty's & bats. Budget permitting, I would want to have at least 4 or 5 atty's on hand and the same for batteries.
Like I said, my last order of atty's was 25. A little tough to swallow on the cost, but it's one less thing I have to worry about.
You don't want to be down to your last one and hope your order comes in before that last one dies.
As my Dad used to say, "It's better to be looking at it, then looking for it!"
Whatever route you go on the juice, just don't run yourself out.
Like I said, my last order of atty's was 25. A little tough to swallow on the cost, but it's one less thing I have to worry about.
You don't want to be down to your last one and hope your order comes in before that last one dies.
As my Dad used to say, "It's better to be looking at it, then looking for it!"
Whatever route you go on the juice, just don't run yourself out.
Thanks for your good advise.
It's hard to decide what to buy initially. I am looking at vaping as a way to quit smoking, but who knows vaping may end up being a long term substitute for analogs. I chose the 510 because I understand it has the best draw.
It's hard to decide what to buy initially. I am looking at vaping as a way to quit smoking, but who knows vaping may end up being a long term substitute for analogs. I chose the 510 because I understand it has the best draw.
Your 510 starter kit is a very good start. I don't see any need to go broke just to use the e-cig.
From my somewhat limited experience:
- Keep at least 1 spare atomizer and battery. If you have a PCC you could skip a spare charger since the PCC can charge batteries.
- I find atomizers get worse over time. Mine still work after a month but just aren't "like new" anymore. I will toss these in a drawer and get a few new ones to use.
- It is possible to have a part outright break on you. It hasn't happened to me but it is possible. A small percentage of parts may be defective also.
Here are my costs per month:
$20 - $30 Juice
$8 - $10 Atomizer
$5 (one battery every other month maybe)
I keep enough parts on hand in case one goes bad suddenly. I also like to have extra batteries since I drain them quickly.
I was a heavy smoker and am now a heavy vaper. If you use your 510 less often parts and juice will last longer.
Short answer: about $45 a month for me.
If I tackle juice making or cutting juice I could save a few more dollars also.
-Gooney0
From my somewhat limited experience:
- Keep at least 1 spare atomizer and battery. If you have a PCC you could skip a spare charger since the PCC can charge batteries.
- I find atomizers get worse over time. Mine still work after a month but just aren't "like new" anymore. I will toss these in a drawer and get a few new ones to use.
- It is possible to have a part outright break on you. It hasn't happened to me but it is possible. A small percentage of parts may be defective also.
Here are my costs per month:
$20 - $30 Juice
$8 - $10 Atomizer
$5 (one battery every other month maybe)
I keep enough parts on hand in case one goes bad suddenly. I also like to have extra batteries since I drain them quickly.
I was a heavy smoker and am now a heavy vaper. If you use your 510 less often parts and juice will last longer.
Short answer: about $45 a month for me.
If I tackle juice making or cutting juice I could save a few more dollars also.
-Gooney0
I just ordered 10 atomizers and 10 batteries for my 510 from Vapor Country. The have them for 499 and 7.99. This was one of the cheapes places I have found.
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'Tis good advice but don't over buy (large sizes of) liquid either. That is until you reasonably sure of what you do like. Many suppliers offer *sample* sizes of their liquids, usually around 3 mls or so. Figure about $1 a ml when you buy those sample sized bottles. Vermont Vapor comes to mind for sample sizing but there are a myriad of other suppliers that do samples.
I'm vaping nearly six months and I have 7 cold (dead) atomizers which is pretty much normal. I don't use stock batteries (like the ones that come in the kits) these days because I use mods, but I have a couple of those batteries in the scrap heap too.
If you're buying from US quality suppliers like Litecig, Rocky Mountain Vapor, Good Prophets, Nhaler, E-smokeronline, etc., you're only going to have a waiting period of (at most) 3 days to get new stuff when the situation dictates. Figure to keep a few atts and batts untouched and in reserve then place your order when you feel your new supplies are TWICE those 3 days away.
Join a club too. It's nice to know that there are always people out there who can supply loaners in an e-pocalypse. <g> You may even find a supplier in your neighborhood that allows for local pick-ups.
When you're sure you're into this and happy with your device/liquid etc, then make that big cache order -- like the 25 atty supply mentioned in this thread.
On-going cost?
For me:
3 attys every two months - say £6 a month
70ml juice every month - less than £40 a month
4 Spiderfire batteries every 4 months (max) - less than a pound a month
So less than £50 a month compared to over £50 a week for cigs
For me:
3 attys every two months - say £6 a month
70ml juice every month - less than £40 a month
4 Spiderfire batteries every 4 months (max) - less than a pound a month
So less than £50 a month compared to over £50 a week for cigs
Hi Kristin, I'm on information overload... I purchased Smoke fifty one. I'm not displeased, but I really would like to mix my own, or purchase eliguids. I've tried dripping eliquid in the cartridge and it doesn't work all that well - it just sort of mixes the flavors. I like the draw and the vapor. The cartridges aren't the best flavor and I can't find if I can purchase blank atomizers/cartridges to fit.
Should I purchase a different e cig to get what I want? (easy draw, good vapor, moderate throat hit, easy & relatively inexpensive replacement cartidges/atomizers). Any suggestions?
Should I purchase a different e cig to get what I want? (easy draw, good vapor, moderate throat hit, easy & relatively inexpensive replacement cartidges/atomizers). Any suggestions?
Did you get a Duo or a Trio?
The Duo uses "cartomizers" meaning the cartridge and the atomizer are a single unit. In order to drip or use your own liquids you'll need a model that has a cartridge separate from the atomizer.
QUALIFIER: Note my post count. I am a noob too, but I researched Smoke51 as one of my potential choices. I may eventually go to them for a Duo, because I expect one of the FDA's probably actions will be to require cartridges to be sealed (taking liquid nic out of the users' hands)...but that's a whole different discussion.
i have tired to figure it out but im a noob but i figured in a month it should cost me about 43 dollars buying 1 atty and 1 battery and box of 5 carts and 30ml of fluid but i keep buying alot of differant things just trying everything i can so iv blown that like 5 times over in 2 weeks lol
I honestly don't care if it works out more than what I was paying for my cheap tobacco, I feel so much better, I smell better, my senses are improved etc etc etc. 
That said, 60ml of juice and maybe 1 atty per month and 1 battery every two months really isn't that expensive.
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That said, 60ml of juice and maybe 1 atty per month and 1 battery every two months really isn't that expensive.
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