Opinions on convincing loved ones to take up vaping

[Satharra]

So, what all will I need to hook my old KR808 batteries into a 901 atty? Any info on where to buy it would be fantastic too. Also, will I need carts or what for the juice? I don't want it to get too complex on him too quickly. This might be a good solution based on your all's feedback.

Honestly, with the TH he gets from those Camels, I don't see this one lasting too long if I can just get him started. He's going to want TH and the KR808 really delivers on that. I could see him getting all into the wiring and electrical stuff too. Oh brother, that's gonna get expensive!

Thanks again for all the information.

 

[DemonCowboy]

the 901 atty needs no adapter for an 808 battery threads are the same - airholes are different, that's y it doesn't work in reverse so well

you will need a cart but most of the time they come w/ 1 blank cart, but any place that sells the atty will sell the carts for it too (then if he likes the first few drags then we can talk about replacing the cheap crap they use for filler in them)

let me find them again and i'll send u a link for a good price

 

[Satharra]

I found three of them on VaporJunction's site for 6.95 but have no idea which of the three I'd want/need.

I'll just pick up two and a pack of carts just in case my mom has the same issues when I go see her.

 

[DemonCowboy]

you want the DSE 901.
the HV 901 is for high voltage (6v) batteries and the LR 901 is low resistance to simulate a high voltage battery but i'm told those don't last very long.

the DSE 901 is u'r best bet because that's a regular atty.

 

[Satharra]

Is $6.95 a decent deal or do know of some better prices? I've done business with VaporJunction before and they're good but want to get as low as I can price-wise so I'm not out too much on this little experiment if it blows up in my face.

 

[DemonCowboy]

not w/o finding a sale 901 atties are normally around $7 that i've found - unless u order them from china but then u better b planning on spending serious money to eat up the shipping costs

 

[otrpu]

I just lead by example. And make it available when/if they want it. Have had success with children rearin um that way. Have had success with employees trainin um that way. After 41 years of Marital Bliss, I can honestly state that Wifey has not done one damned thing I wanted her to, because of my leading by example. Rather, she's altered my behavior considerably. I now have the patience of Jobe.

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[Satharra]

I just lead by example. And make it available when/if they want it. Have had success with children rearin um that way. Have had success with employees trainin um that way. After 41 years of Marital Bliss, I can honestly state that Wifey has not done one damned thing I wanted her to, because of my leading by example. Rather, she's altered my behavior considerably. I now have the patience of Jobe.

Cheers,
otrpu

Boy, that sounds familiar. Good thing I'm the wife in this situation and he's the husband. So, tell us, how has your wife managed to alter your behavior so considerably, Job?

I need tips and pointers for husband behavior modification.

 

[Blaze]

Without reading too much, because I'm lazy, I'll just quickly explain my experience.

You can't force them, there's really no way to convince someone to make the switch. Either they will or they won't. I've tried to turn 4 people and was successful with only 3.

Lindsay - My best friend was really really against the idea of electronic cigarettes. She was worried about getting juice in her mouth or getting sick from it, and just in general liked smoking. I let her use my e-cigarette but I didn't really force it upon her, or say stuff like "you should really try to quit with this" or anything like that. I let her come to the conclusion that she'd like to try it herself, as soon as she showed any amount of interest, I ran to PIF and collected stuff to get her a kit. She was here for about a week and a half and smoked a total of 10 cigarettes during that time. She really likes it, and I'm pretty sure she'll be able to quit.

My husband - Thought e-cigarettes were really "gay" when I first started using them. He just sort of thought they were a novelty item and not really something one could quit with. Unfortunately when I lost my will power and went back to smoking this did nothing to disprove his theory. Eventually I worked my way back to the e-cig and quit for a good month. At that point, he admitted it was worth a shot. He successfully has been smoke free for two months now, and is severely impressed.

My Dad - After seeing Lindsay, Sam, and myself quit using these my dad was really interested so I got together a little starter kit for him. He spends a lot of time at the computer so SpiritAir lovingly donated a passthrough to him which he loves to death. My dad smoked for 35 years and was able to quit (albeit it was a bumpy ride for him) using them.

My dads Boyfriend - He looks at e-cigarettes like really foreign devices that are scary. I have so far been entirely unable to get him to use them. He simply has no interest. I have let him try several PV's, and many, many juices that I was sure he would like but still no go.

Moral? Some people are simply stubborn and will not convert. Some people are stubborn but just need to see success in action, and some people are ready and willing. Give it a while for your spouse, don't push it. Let him see how successful you are with it, when he notices how easily you quit and how much you like it, he will become interested and start sniffing around. THAT is when you attack

Agreed. My mother comes around more and more the more she sees me using it

what model are u having him use? if he's hacking because it feels hot against his throat and tastes burnt (as i thought using a friend's 510) then have him use a cooler model atty. a 901 is what i use but for a good smoking direct inhaling draw i've since gotten an 801 - might want to look into those for him as the 801 has a cool draw to it and the 901 is still a cooler draw than the 510

Again, agreed. I about choked my ex-wife to death with my 510, but she loves the 901 box mod I gave her, and likes the 801 I let her try

 

[Satharra]

Thanks again for all the great input, folks. I decided to try out the 901 atty idea to see if maybe that works. Will also advise small little puffs when they get started. I'll keep being a good model for my husband and, if all else fails, I'll engage in a few behavior modification techniques using effective reinforcements (i.e. I'll bribe him with something I know he loves ).

Now, I haven't seen Pope post yet but maybe he has some additional issues that we can all help him alleviate?

 

[markfm]

If he likes Camels, and you have 808 batteries, perhaps try a 5-pack of Kamel 24 mg from V4L. It has a good kick, strong taste, and V4L seems to do a good fill on their pre-filled cartos. That way he doesn't have to fritz with an atty. (KISS principle)

(I'm pretty sure they also have 36 mg available, and V4L generally tosses in a freebie carto of the same strength but different flavor -- sometimes another tobacco, other times flavored. Their normal 10% off is smilin)

 

[Pope]

Now, I haven't seen Pope post yet but maybe he has some additional issues that we can all help him alleviate?

I been watching just waiting and reading.

Okay statius with my wife.

I got some 12mg tobacco juice in yesterday. Thanks Markfm. I let her try that. The problem she was having with to much TH from the 24mg juice was delt with by the switch. She did not like the fact that it doesn't produce as much vapor as she would like and give her that feeling of having your chest filled with smoke. I told here to try the direct inhale method. That helped.

Now the problem is getting her to give it a real honest chance. She takes 2 drags and says she still wants a cig and gives up. I try to tell her that she doesn't just take 2 drags of a cig and boom craving gone so why would she expect the same from a PV. She also some how got it in her head that if trying this means I won't buy her cigs anymore. I told her that I would and that I would just like it if she gave this a honest shot.

Today I left a 510 with a filled carto on the counter when I left for work. We shall see if she gave it a shot.

She will ask to try it every now and than when I am doing it so I hand it over and let her try it. Maybe in time she will see I am not going back to regular cigs and except me doing it. Than maybe she will come around. At this point I don't know what else to do.

 

[DemonCowboy]

maybe the ticket w/ her is to present it just as something she can use where smoking is prohibited and then keep her places it's not allowed that way she's got no choice but to use it all day.

unless u think u could ask her to give it a day, or find a way that she doesn't get cigs for a day or something.cause i'm sure she'll use it if nothing else is available.

 

[markfm]

Pope -- Now you're in the options zone. If she perhaps needs a kick up in nicotine, but down in overall TH, perhaps an 18 mg liquid that's got a decent VG % -- you get nic, some TH but not the PG added TH.

I think what I sent you was TV, 90% PG, 10% VG. The 18 mg TV 90/10 might work -- it's a pretty smooth taste. Otherwise maybe an 18 mg, or even 24, that's less PG.

Higher VG also directly leads to more vapor.

 

[Pope]

No luck tonight she took a couple drags off my pv while we were out but she is opposed to my tv atomic cinnacide I have been vaping nonstop since I got it. (I ordered 90 mills of it yesterday).

What is the closest to tobacco to a normal cig. Maybe a smokey flavor more than a tobacco.

 

[Satharra]

No luck tonight she took a couple drags off my pv while we were out but she is opposed to my tv atomic cinnacide I have been vaping nonstop since I got it. (I ordered 90 mills of it yesterday).

What is the closest to tobacco to a normal cig. Maybe a smokey flavor more than a tobacco.

Well, Wyatt Earp at FreedomSmokesUSA was one of the strongest tobacco flavors I ever tried. It reminded me a lot of cigar tobacco though. I tend to like the flavored tobaccos so I do have a Vanilla tobacco that's pretty tasty from Vapors Etc. Maybe someone else can offer some other ideas.

 

[markfm]

Pope -- If you're using an 808 (not sure), you can get a sampler pack -- several vendors have them -- cartos with different tobacco flavors. Something like: Vapor4Life- Electronic Cigarette: Vapor King Tobacco Shop Sample Cartomizers
gets you 5 flavors at a given mg strength. (They have several other tobacco samplers, too.)
If you send them a question, I'm sure they'd let you know which juices have a bit more VG, which bumps the vapor -- I enjoyed the ounce of Wowboy that I got from them.

 

[HeatherC]

OK.... so here's a little story for you I don't know how much it'll help but... here goes nothin...

Sometimes in about February of this year my husband went to visit a friend in Florida... the friend had been vaping for almost a year I think by that time. They went out together a lot (highschool buddies u know how it is) and my husband (AKA caminodiablo on here) tried it out while they were together. He came home and told me about it because I have wanted to STOP smoking for a while now a 3 PAD smoker and smoking 120 menthols I knew it was killing me. So I kept at him about when we could get it for me... we finally did! I knew in a couple of hours that I never ever wanted to run short of supplies for this again so I asked him if I could order more supplies (he controls the money because I have a serious LACK of control when it comes to spending) and he said "why don't u order me a bottle of the juice. I really don't want to do it but I'll try it."
We got his order and a few spare batteries for me...which he eventually commandeered lol... but he tried it off and on for a while and said he still wanted to smoke. I told him he should try using the PV for like 4 hrs straight or while he was at work just use the PV no cigs. He did that one night at work... he came home and tried to smoke a cigarette and couldn't believe how awful it tasted I woke up that morning and ALL the ashtrays in the house had disappeared and he gave away his last carton of cigs.
So I'm not sure if it would work... but my advice is to suggest she just try it for a couple hours NO cigs during that time... then she can go back to smoking no pressure or anything. We also started on 36mg nicotine. I'm down to 9mg now...but he's only down to between 18 and 24. (BUT dropping the nicotine was never my goal anyway)

 

[mini_art]

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink,

however you can make sure there is lots of water all the time to tempt its curiousity

Deliciouse flavors with a great scent might do the trick. Not necessiarly tobacco.

Go over to Ms ts bakery and pick a dessert flavor that she really loves.
I dont recommend chocolate as most dont seem to like it much in a vape but anything else would do that she really likes to eat for a treat.
Then vape it yourself until she asks about it. LOL
People are naturally curiouse. she want to try the banana pie or whatever is her fav treat.
I really think the reason ecigs work for most people is because they are fun,
a lot more fun then smoking. I ended up quitting literally by accident .

If it is a you need to quit smoking thing, it is not fun.

Try making it more fun for her. She may decide to try it more. I would say reassure her too by making sure she is not short of regular cigs either.

I am so rambling here LOL
Time to quit.

 

[Pope]

That is exactly the route I am trying to take with her.