Orion V2 roll call

[tierrataz]

Another thought on top coil. You really can get it closer than you think.

 

[Striker911]

I'd just fiddle with the coil... mine was doing that at first but when I moved the coils around, it started to glow evenly and hit awesome.

I tried that often. So often that I have vaporized 4 coils and about 2 full tanks of juice. I get it even and its okay for about two pulls and go back to shorting. That's where the frustration comes from. Shoot I wish it was that easy.

Yeah many have said the Orion is tricky. My first genesis, so I can't say.

Nudge your coils slightly. I often can't get the top coil perfect. I just power through, not inhaling. After 1/4-1/2ml, the coil seasons.

Did you say wicking was an issue?

No wicking issues. My only problem is that coil shorting out constantly. I bet the insulation may help some though. You use the paper clip in the center of the wick right? I do the same. Its just so easy that way.

Striker. I had a little issue getting my top coil to stop shorting. I oxidize the heck out of my wicks. They are completely black, and I also burn/quench in VG. They wick great, almost to good at times. I see people holding their Orions, Katanas, and Zens at a 2 o'clock position to vape in videos, and just don't understand that with a full tank. If I do that, mine flood. I have to hold mine @4-5 o'clock when full, and only hold it up like that when my tank gets low, like almost empty. I have gotten in the habit (good or bad) of re-using a wick, just hitting it with a torch and quenching it. Especially if I have a wick that works particularly good.

Anyways. The Orion has the two washers to hold the kanthal. I leave some kanthal hanging so I can adjust if need be. I wiggle the kanthal @the base screw to break/cut after wrapping the coil, but leave enough after trimming at the top so that I can pull it out. I just tuck it down so it doesn't touch the cap.

So then I fire and quench my coil with some more VG to start seasoning a little. Looking for hot spots. I try not to dry burn to much. IF I can't get a hot spot out, which usually seems to be that top coil on the Orion so far... I just try the nudge first.... Still no luck... I pull it from the washers. And unwrap just the top coil if that is the culprit, and then rewrap it in a slightly diff position... or maybe a little looser or more snug, until I get it. It takes patience... but it works for me. I like the washer/spring setup for this reason. When I am good, I watch it while it fires on a WET wick to ensure I see vapor being produced by ALL coil wraps. Also, on my new V2.1, I noticed some burrs in the bottom of the wick hole because my wick did not slide through easily. This was a short waiting to happen, so I cleaned them out.

On another note. I picked up a V2 so now I have a backup. The finish is MORE matte then the V2.1, and has more texture to it, whereas the 2.1 is has texture, but less. I like the button on the 2.1 SOOO much, I am going to cut the button down on the V2. I also need to open the mouth piece a little on the V2. I went to clean the V2, as it was used... The washers had build up on them where the kanthal makes contact!!! and it didn't come off to easy. I ended up using an fine emory board (thanks 2 my wife) to clean it off. I also have a ton of these washers from RC days... Check your washers!!! especially if your Orion is not "hitting" like it should.

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Thanks a million for taking the time to help. I am use to the HOH thread where no one wanted to help at all. I would post and not one person would reply. Its was truly like talking to a wall.

You hit on a couple points I would like to look further into. The washers and coil arrangement. The wire does go between the top nut and top washer and not between the washers? I have mine between the nut and washer.

I was also trying to sand the washers. They are just so small its hard to get any bite when sanding. I better make it a point to get it done though cause I seen some black residue on mine also.

I still have RC cars lol. The first one I bought as a kit. They make you put everything together even the bearings one little ball at a time. Took me 3 months to get that one done. I juiced it with 7 cells and a 9 turn double. Wow was that fun. I have a short some place now. I would drive it then sparks would fly and it would shut off. Not sure if it needs a speed controller or a battery post came loose. Its just been siting for a few years.

I had the Mayhem and a T-max also. The Mayhem was my favorite.

I sold my Orion for this main reason. Its great, dont get me wrong. Heck I've thought about getting the new 2.1v because of the recessed button and finish.

But, I personally believe that the wick IS shorting to the tank frame (positive) causing the hard times for folks. If this device came with / or had PTFE inserts installed into the tank this would be greatly reduced. I would go to the site we all know by now and buy the PTFE inserts and try it. ????

When she works its as awesome as they come.

I sold the Zenesis for giving me a bunch of trouble. Scott is also having the same issue with his. He sanded and even gold plated the connections and still its not firing well. Yellowman has it and ended up putting a Copper spring in and it has more power then with the magnets. Nuts huh.

But ya I like the Orion more cause of the side switch and its dual modes. Plus it has yet to scratch up from my wedding ring like the Z did. When the Orion is working its everything I want in a APV so I hope I can get this worked out. I want to throw it across the room sometimes. Just cant let it beat me. I have $330 in it and I am only allowed one good APV. My back up is the Steel Jan Elmo Mod. Under $30 in that one and its my baby thanks to the issues I am having.

I will make a post in the thread you where talking about to see about the wick tank isolation.

 

[tierrataz]

Striker, the wire is supposed to go between the washers. I've heard of others having luck the way you are wrapping. Not so sure about leaving a tail of wire up there though. Wouldn't that zap a bit of energy?

Try this, tighten down your top nut a bit. I forgot I had to do that and noticed a big difference on set up.

I have a Zenesis on the way. Now Im concerned even more. I hear ya about asking questions. Seems like more time could be spent helping customers out. I hope it lives up to the hype.

 

[Striker911]

Striker, the wire is supposed to go between the washers. I've heard of others having luck the way you are wrapping. Not so sure about leaving a tail of wire up there though. Wouldn't that zap a bit of energy?

Try this, tighten down your top nut a bit. I forgot I had to do that and noticed a big difference on set up.

I have a Zenesis on the way. Now Im concerned even more. I hear ya about asking questions. Seems like more time could be spent helping customers out. I hope it lives up to the hype.

Okay. We are making progress here. I am excited when that happens. So I have two things to try that could be all I need to fix this baby.

I dont think you have anything to worry about. I say that cause I hope yours works like it should. In retrospect the issue we had could not be the same with everyone. If so no one would buy it. In my case I had to sell my beloved Provari. Took a $70 loss on it. Then buy the correct battery's and a charger $80. Then the APV $260. Then I was not happy one bit. To add injury to insult, I spaced my auto pay insurance payment and bounced it at the bank $30. It was a hell in a hand bag situation for me.

And oh ya. How could I forget. I was also stuck using a mini while the Provari was on the way out and the Z along with the charger was on the way in. I had the Elmo Mod but no charger. I had that last analog and no way to get more feeling. Then the problems and Mike just wanted me to mail it back. Hard times.

 

[Bmays]

I can say this and it should help a lot. I found the top coil my biggest heartache and wondered why it was always the "top" and seldom the bottom. I found that after wrapping the top coil around the washers/nut and taking a needle and forcing a ? shape onto the top coil cured most issues. The ? shape caused the wire to tighten up a bit and not be just there absorbing all the heat.

Also, ( I'm sure you are ) make sure to get that last coil pulled pretty close to the post. I tried to never bend the wick just to get it close (I've seen others with bent wicks from forcing a close connection) but close enough.

And last but not least. Short burst with a soaked coil/wick and the device turned downward at about a 45 angle help oxidize the coil wire in the beginning.

 

[JollyRogers]

The little tail of wire I leave hanging is not touching anything... It won't "zap" any energy as long as it remains not touching the body (in this case the body is +). It is only 1/4" so I can grab it to uncoil if need be.

I do the ? shape Bmays is talking of all the time for my coils. And yes, I go between the washers. I keep the top of wick pretty card close to those washers also. I think when people tuck the kanthal into the washers, they may be pulling it tight and cutting into the oxidation... Just a thought.

Will post some pics later today for you Striker.

I just cut down the switch button on the V2. Had a panic moment when the little piece went flying off into nowhere of my house. I found it 30 minutes later in another room. Regardless, got it done, and opened the mouth piece up (not the wick air hole), set it up, and it can choke me with the vapor now.

 

[JollyRogers]

Striker, the wire is supposed to go between the washers. I've heard of others having luck the way you are wrapping. Not so sure about leaving a tail of wire up there though. Wouldn't that zap a bit of energy?

Try this, tighten down your top nut a bit. I forgot I had to do that and noticed a big difference on set up.

I have a Zenesis on the way. Now Im concerned even more. I hear ya about asking questions. Seems like more time could be spent helping customers out. I hope it lives up to the hype.

You like bottom buttons. I think you will like your Zenesis just fine... but the size may surprise you in comparison to your little V1s!

 

[tierrataz]

You like bottom buttons. I think you will like your Zenesis just fine... but the size may surprise you in comparison to your little V1s!

Yeah, the size is certainly a little niggle. I'll know on Monday. Tall mods are not good for me as a rescue is always bumping a table. I rarely ran the V2 in 18650 mode and I really loved those in a bf.

Unless the zenesis blows my socks off, I suspect it will move on. Really love my V1s and thanks to you I have a spare. As Les said, now it's bullet proof! Other than new mind blowing genesis tech, what more could I want?

 

[JollyRogers]

Here are a few pics...
V2.1 is on left (boba's), V2 on right (ave 555)...


V2.1 coil/wick 400 mesh


V2 coil/wick 325 mesh

 

[JollyRogers]

Yeah, the size is certainly a little niggle. I'll know on Monday. Tall mods are not good for me as a rescue is always bumping a table. I rarely ran the V2 in 18650 mode and I really loved those in a bf.

Unless the zenesis blows my socks off, I suspect it will move on. Really love my V1s and thanks to you I have a spare. As Les said, now it's bullet proof! Other than new mind blowing genesis tech, what more could I want?

What kind of rescue? Curious...

 

[rossstang]

Orion V2 Glass Tanks - Mod Maker Sales - UK Vapers - Page 11
glass tanks, i think the list closes sunday or monday? but they are coming from the UK

 

[tierrataz]

What kind of rescue? Curious...

Border Collies

Nic pics!!!

 

[tierrataz]

Orion V2 Glass Tanks - Mod Maker Sales - UK Vapers - Page 11
glass tanks, i think the list closes sunday or monday? but they are coming from the UK

I bought from Terry last round. Just be aware there can be chips at cut ends. Jolly has it now and it's been in use with no problems about 4-5 weeks.

 

[JollyRogers]

Pit Bulls here... They know to stay away from table legs

We rescued some, but ended up adopting two of them. We were German Shepherd people, when our last died tragically, we couldn't get another... So that is the short story... I love Border Collies, my wifes family had one when we were dating, she was a great dog!

 

[Striker911]

Okay I sanded it all down oxidized again and did the ?. Its between the washers and I got a few monster pulls out of it. I hope it stays that way. I had to bump a bit but I am leaving it just like it is till it stops working well again. I hope it works this time.

 

[tierrataz]

9 here at the moment. Each week is different.

Pit Bulls here... They know to stay away from table legs

We rescued some, but ended up adopting two of them. We were German Shepherd people, when our last died tragically, we couldn't get another... So that is the short story... I love Border Collies, my wires family had one when we were dating, she was a great dog!

 

[Striker911]

What do you guys do to keep your lips from getting hot with the built in drip tip? I take like 3 pulls in a row and have to let it cool off for at least 5 minutes. Thought about some electrical tape but that may not work with the heat.

 

[JollyRogers]

Mine aren't getting all that hot... They get a little warm chain vaping, but not hot. However, a silicon cart condom would work nicely. I have a bunch I keep around for that and for letting other people try my PVs.

 

[Striker911]

Mine aren't getting all that hot... They get a little warm chain vaping, but not hot. However, a silicon cart condom would work nicely. I have a bunch I keep around for that and for letting other people try my PVs.

Its just a hair small for that but it does work better then hot lips lol. I bet it would get a little better if I drill the hole out some. Wish I had a drill press.

 

[JollyRogers]

I drilled my mouth piece out on the V2 today with a dremel. Carefully, and used a little oil to cool things down. Also have done a few air holes in my time with a 1mm bit. I havent touched the v2.1 other then to set it up & vape it.