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B&Ms will be receiving 2 units for beta testing from Provape. They won't be selling these. Each shop will receive 2 units once the official sale date is released. They are expecting to start selling units within 30-45 days.
If you want check one out your local provari dealer should have one to check out within days.
This is what I was told at my local B&M yesterday. They carry the full line from Provape

There was one from a B&M in Israel, on eBay yesterday - for $349. Today, it's sold.
 

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Never thought I would vape over 20 watts

I vape 25 watts every single day, its cool, huge flavor, and my nic level stays between 2mg and 6mg.

P3 is so disappointing but this is a beta unit, perhaps the release will vape 30watts and have a bypass function.

IDK about you fans but that bypass and 30watt vaping is awesome and you definitely will make it there on occasion if you build and wick your own coils..

30 watts cool and comfortable much more comfortable than a 1.5-3.4ohm standard 34ga coil at 12 watts.
 

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So, has anyone ever been successful in turning in one of these for warranty work? I ask because I had an issue with an Innokin product and their vender only offered a 30 day warranty, even though there was a longer warranty stated on the Innokin website. I tried to contact Innokin, but never had any luck getting an answer. I know that some people have been able to get through to Innokin and I know this is Segelei we are taking about, but I was just curious to hear if anyone had good luck with Segelei in terms of CS..
Yeah, In the thread on Innokins 20watt Svd/Dna there was a guy who contacted Innokin over a bad button issue and they had him send the unit to their repair facility on the east coast for repair/replacement. His unit was 90 days old. Innokin did ask for him to send it in with the original box. -Dave
 

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It requires a sensor of some type to measure the load, plus a linked processing unit to handle the VW calculations. Quite a bit of additional engineering.

If the unit already has an Ohms reader it will not require "Quite a bit of additional engineering" That's just typical DrG Hyperbole...
 

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It requires a sensor of some type to measure the load, plus a linked processing unit to handle the VW calculations. Quite a bit of additional engineering.

Serious? That's your answer? I asked for something SPECIFIC...

I'm going to retire from this conversation before I end up losing more brain cells.

Aside from that, the P3 is an improvement. Is it enough? No, but it's new, shiny, and more than the previous version.
 

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Never thought I would vape over 20 watts

I vape 25 watts every single day, its cool, huge flavor, and my nic level stays between 2mg and 6mg.

P3 is so disappointing but this is a beta unit, perhaps the release will vape 30watts and have a bypass function.

IDK about you fans but that bypass and 30watt vaping is awesome and you definitely will make it there on occasion if you build and wick your own coils..

30 watts cool and comfortable much more comfortable than a 1.5-3.4ohm standard 34ga coil at 12 watts.

Personally I see no reason for 15 watts let alone 20 or 25. It's just unnecessary. Using a Kayfun with a 1.5 - 1.7 ohm coil at 3.4 - 4.0 volts produces some of the best flavor I've ever tasted. That's 7.8 - 9.5 watts.

Vapor chasing seems like it could be just as dangerous as smoking cigarettes in my view. Nicotine and flavor below 10 watts is perfect for me. Anything else is just overkill.
 

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Personally I see no reason for 15 watts let alone 20 or 25. It's just unnecessary. Using a Kayfun with a 1.5 - 1.7 ohm coil at 3.4 - 4.0 volts produces some of the best flavor I've ever tasted. That's 7.8 - 9.5 watts.

Vapor chasing seems like it could be just as dangerous as smoking cigarettes in my view. Nicotine and flavor below 10 watts is perfect for me. Anything else is just overkill.

I see no reason for 24 watts or less. I always vape at 25 watts and up. I use upside down drippers.

You're vaping wrong Anarchy84 and you're using the wrong hardware ;)



I won't mention about my lawn :lol:
 
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Vapor chasing seems like it could be just as dangerous as smoking cigarettes in my view.


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Serious? That's your answer? I asked for something SPECIFIC...

I'm going to retire from this conversation before I end up losing more brain cells.

Aside from that, the P3 is an improvement. Is it enough? No, but it's new, shiny, and more than the previous version.

Uh, that's as specific as it is possible to be. There are different implementations so to specify just one would be inaccurate.

If the unit already has an Ohms reader it will not require "Quite a bit of additional engineering" That's just typical DrG Hyperbole...

That's ridiculous and irrelevant. Having a dumb ohm reader isn't much different than having a separate one on a table, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with VV.

Don't lose sight of the post I was responding to: the idea that VW is little different from VV, based on the idea that conceptually they are just an equation away from each other. People seem to easily lose sight of the fact that pieces of technology do nothing by themselves, literally every step has to be implemented. There is a large engineering difference between a dumb ohm reader and a dumb adjustable voltage regulator, and a self-adjusting system that senses and reacts to real-world conditions.
 
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Uh, that's as specific as it is possible to be. There are different implementations so to specify just one would be inaccurate.



That's ridiculous and irrelevant. Having a dumb ohm reader isn't much different than having a separate one on a table, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with VV.

Don't lose sight of the post I was responding to: the idea that VW is little different from VV, based on the idea that conceptually they are just an equation away from each other. People seem to easily lose sight of the fact that pieces of technology do nothing by themselves, literally every step has to be implemented. There is a large engineering difference between a dumb ohm reader and a dumb adjustable voltage regulator, and a self-adjusting system that senses and reacts to real-world conditions.

You were talking about V.W. Not V,V. and of course the device needs a current ohms load reading to determine what voltage is needed to achieve a certain Wattage. Dont lose track of the science. Furthermore how about knocking off the abrasiveness? It tends to make you come off as an .....
 

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You were talking about V.W. Not V,V. and of course the device needs a current ohms load reading to determine what voltage is needed to achieve a certain Wattage. Dont lose track of the science.

You aren't following the discussion. The original statement was that simply because VW and VV are only separated by some math, they are close to the same. In reality, that's not true by a long shot. Getting a device to measure a real-world value then perform a calculation to control another function is a big difference from doing none of that. That's the difference between VW and VV.

It seems you have taken issue with my posts simply because of the poster. Try reading what is written without your biases.
 
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I have to say i am saddened that it will only do 20 watts. Why not just go to 25-30 watts guys i mean really? I can understand the 0.7 ohm limit for sure...but the DNA device is honestly the hottest product out. I may just go for a Wizards apprentice dna30 instead.

If a device doesn't have the features you want, buy something else. It's wonderful we have so many choices now.
 

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Thank you, um, I think!! I still don't quite get why VW makes a hill of beans difference. Maybe it's because I'm not a RBA-dude and my heads use standard coils almost exclusively in 1.8 ohm. Before I got my Provari, I had a Smoktech VV/VW device. I tried it both ways and simply couldn't tell any difference. If the coil heats up, turns the liquid to vapor, which tastes good and gives me a nice vaping experience, maybe I'm stupid but I just don't care if it does it's magic measured in volts or watts.

I'm still confused too. All I know is that I loved my provari until I started dripping and had to go out and buy a chi yu and a rba. Now I cant stand the thought of going back to punching cartos.

All I care to know is...can I sub ohm on the new provari p3 with a rba since its variable wattage?

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