"Packing" the e-cig? I swear this works.....

[ErikNYC]

So i just got my first bottle of juice today....E-smokey treats menthol and I just refilled a bunch of cartridges. Having looked inside and taken apart the carts, rinsed out the filler ect.....I kinda got a good understanding of exactly how the relationship of the filler, liquid and atty work together.

After vaping on a cart for a while and then getting that funky taste of a dying cartdrige I peeked inside and noticed the filler was pushed way back into the cart. I "packed" it against my hand to bring it out a little more, thus bringing more wetness to the atty...and it tasted better with more vape.. Ive been packing the whole thing from time to time (LED side down on my palm) and I swear this seems to draw some liquid towards the atty and push the filler closer making better vape.

Does anyone else do this or am I just smoking something??

Get it?? SMOKING SOMETHING??

 

[Zofryer]

Sounds like you need to learn about the "straw mod". Use the search feature of the forum and search for it. It will knock your socks off.

 

[MattyMo]

I do the same thing. I figure because the fiber closest to the atty gets so dry, there's gotta be some xtra juice towards the other end of the cart. i just whack my ecig bat-side down against my palm for a few seconds and voila. better drags. at least for a little while..

 

[Bones]

Well - Sure - You are bringing more juice to the front of the cart - You will soon develop all sorts of odd maneuvers to keep the vape alive - That is one of the least odd - Most folks carry tweezers and just pull it out - You may want to be careful with the packing move - the electronics in the battery are not shock resistant - over time you may damage it -

 

[DC2]

So i just got my first bottle of juice today....E-smokey treats menthol and I just refilled a bunch of cartridges. Having looked inside and taken apart the carts, rinsed out the filler ect.....I kinda got a good understanding of exactly how the relationship of the filler, liquid and atty work together.

After vaping on a cart for a while and then getting that funky taste of a dying cartdrige I peeked inside and noticed the filler was pushed way back into the cart. I "packed" it against my hand to bring it out a little more, thus bringing more wetness to the atty...and it tasted better with more vape.. Ive been packing the whole thing from time to time (LED side down on my palm) and I swear this seems to draw some liquid towards the atty and push the filler closer making better vape.

Does anyone else do this or am I just smoking something??

Get it?? SMOKING SOMETHING??

Damn dude, you just struck a chord with me.

I have made a few posts recently about refilling cartridges and how the filler is shrunken and keeps on getting pushed down so it is not making good contact with the atomizer bridge.

Nobody has responded, which of course makes me think I'm insane or something.

My solution was to rinse out the filler, dry it out by smashing between paper towels, and then plump it up just a bit. Seems to have solved my problems. Buy you said you already clean them and still have this problem. This baffles me, and makes me wonder WTFBBQ.

But packing them?
Really?

I could see it, given the issues I was having.

 

[Bones]

It's the bridge (the little mesh screen part)- This pushes up into the packing material - It looks like it is set far back - But when it is seated contact is being made - It is the thing that made the indentation that way to begin with - It's form fitting - if you will - The "packing" is not really bringing the polly-fiber in to contact with the bridge - it is just bringing the juice down from where it pools at the mouth end of the fiber -

I did the same thing with mine by shaking it lightly like a thermometer or if it was really dry - by spinning my arm with it in my hand to use centrifugal force to get more juice onto the atty - I don't use the carts anymore though - makes life a lot easier -

 

[ErikNYC]

Yep, Ive read about it and as soon as I can find a small enough straw Im gona try it

Sounds like you need to learn about the "straw mod". Use the search feature of the forum and search for it. It will knock your socks off.

 

[ErikNYC]

Well - Sure - You are bringing more juice to the front of the cart - You will soon develop all sorts of odd maneuvers to keep the vape alive - That is one of the least odd - Most folks carry tweezers and just pull it out - You may want to be careful with the packing move - the electronics in the battery are not shock resistant - over time you may damage it -

Perhaps its better to just remove the cartridge and "pack" that instead of the whole thing..

 

[Bones]

Perhaps its better to just remove the cartridge and "pack" that instead of the whole thing..

Sure - Or just shake it gently or a similar move that avoids repetitively jarring it - But like I said - Personally I think the best solution is to just drip and not use the cart at all - carts are a pain - There are many atomizer warnings saying not to drip directly onto the atomizers - I'm pretty sure this is only an issue if you have an open system - If you are using a sealed battery system like the 510 manual or the JantyStick I don't think there is any harm to be done to the atty - There really is no difference between 2-3 drops directly on the atty and putting a juicy cart directly onto the atty - Either way you are getting the atty wet with juice - that's how it functions

For the straw thing - Those little ones that you get to stir coffee with at the 7-11 and such seem to be the ones people use -

 

[UptownRiot]

Perhaps its better to just remove the cartridge and "pack" that instead of the whole thing..

Sounds to me like you would wind up with juice all over your hand. Probably not a good idea.

 

[DC2]

I like the idea of spinning your arm with the e-cig in your hand and using centrifical force.

And I can just imagine it now...

Sitting on a park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Start to taste that dry atomizer burning flavor...
(Stands up, swings arm around in circles, sits back down)
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Start to taste that dry atomizer burning flavor...
(Stands up, swings arm around in circles, sits back down)
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...

 

[Kate51]

I have told people to watch the cart filler or wick, on occasion they need to be pitched out, or just washed and dried, nice and white again, but watch them for thin or bunched up places, they should be nice and even from end to end. New are so cheap. But also some people "twist" their cart onto the atty, and the bridge in the atty acts like a lever, pushing the filler farther up in the holder. Be sure to push straight in and pull straight out to avoid messing up the filler when attaching the cart. The wick should also "peek" out from the edge of the wick holder to make good contact with the bridge. Juice can then easily be drawn into the heat.

 

[Tori]

I like the idea of spinning your arm with the e-cig in your hand and using centrifical force.

And I can just imagine it now...

Sitting on a park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Start to taste that dry atomizer burning flavor...
(Stands up, swings arm around in circles, sits back down)
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...
Start to taste that dry atomizer burning flavor...
(Stands up, swings arm around in circles, sits back down)
Sitting on the park bench having a nice vaporizing break...

I can picture that!!

 

[Robert]

I've been doing the opposite- After reading what SurfMonkey and a few others said.

I push the filler 1/8 in. down so that less hair from the cart material have a chance to burn.

Really though- I think the cart and filler should only be used a few days then they taste wierd.

 

[quovadis]

im going to try a minuscule spring under the filler.
it will always push the filler up and squeeze the remaining juice out of the filler.

 

[DC2]

Having tried variations on this method, I will now say that I was able to suck my filler dry today.
I was able to smoke all the juice out of a cartridge, which is a miracle in my book.

I did not "pack" it because the jarring probably is not a good idea.
But I did give it some centrifugal force as needed.

I basically held it in my hand and shook it back and forth battery side down.

At first I was shaking it too hard for how much liquid was left, and I got some leaking.
But over the course of the day I got it down pretty much pat.

When full, don't shake at all, and just let it wick.
After a couple of drags, shake it a couple of times, slowly and softly.
The more empty it gets, the more you shake it and the harder you shake it.

At the end I was shaking it about seven times, fairly hard.
I got almost every bit of juice from that filler, as verified by pulling it out with tweezers.

And I never got even one single drag that tasted like dry cartridge atomizer burnt taste.
Not even one, the entire cartridge, and I sucked it completely dry.

This method is a winner, and makes me feel like using cartridges is no longer a waste of time.

 

[Robert]

This is good DeadCat- yeah for San Diego- Go Chargers, Padres,

this centufugal motion- or I just give mine a flick or at first kinda use the ruber penscil- type manuver works nice- getting better flavor- wow

nice one dude- I just did the Pete Townsen move- someone should send him one of these!

 

[geeker]

If I blow into my cart, approximately the same thing happens.

 

[catlvr]

Having tried variations on this method, I will now say that I was able to suck my filler dry today.
I was able to smoke all the juice out of a cartridge, which is a miracle in my book.

I did not "pack" it because the jarring probably is not a good idea.
But I did give it some centrifugal force as needed.

I basically held it in my hand and shook it back and forth battery side down.

At first I was shaking it too hard for how much liquid was left, and I got some leaking.
But over the course of the day I got it down pretty much pat.

When full, don't shake at all, and just let it wick.
After a couple of drags, shake it a couple of times, slowly and softly.
The more empty it gets, the more you shake it and the harder you shake it.

At the end I was shaking it about seven times, fairly hard.
I got almost every bit of juice from that filler, as verified by pulling it out with tweezers.

And I never got even one single drag that tasted like dry cartridge atomizer burnt taste.
Not even one, the entire cartridge, and I sucked it completely dry.

This method is a winner, and makes me feel like using cartridges is no longer a waste of time.

I found out this works great. I use the straw and a needle that I carry with my stuff. I have the straw in there and when it starts to go dry, I just top it off using the needle, moving it around while I top off. Gets it all the way in there and viola a perfectly refilled cart. Then I keep "tapping it" downward torwards the battery and I usually get a whole cartfull too before I have to refill again.

 

[VaporNebula]

Sounds like you need to learn about the "straw mod". Use the search feature of the forum and search for it. It will knock your socks off.

Have the straw mod on my 801 but it doesn't help with the filler packing to the bottom of the cart.

To the OP you may want to tap it with the battery off (unless you have a sealed battery) to prevent juice from getting in the battery.