Penelope V2

[yankeebobo]

No Lo. Now I see exactly your point. And I completely agree. There is an adjustable negated air. And to be honest to everyone, if you read Lo's post carefully it makes sense. With the tip it's adjustable. Yes. But the satisfaction suffers in an odd way. Personally I have take it for two days straight with the adjustable. I cannot replicate creating the vapor that I get with no adjustable tip or with a straight tip. Insert a 10mm straight tip with a matching hole and you can cloud the room.
Oddly enough, I couldn't explain this either.

 

[yankeebobo]

I will also add that moving the penny to a JGG and opening the air does improve the performance. But it still falls short of the straight drip tip. You don't labor as much to satisfy your vape with air control but nothing matches the straight opening.

 

[tmccooljr]

do we know the difference in the overall diameter of the cup/chamber from V1 to V2? I don't have my V2 yet to measure

 

[yankeebobo]

I believe the cup itself is the same diameter. Just taller. I haven't measured so I can't say for sure. It certainly appears to be the same size minus the height difference.

 

[tmccooljr]

thanks yankee.

 

[Klepto]

I cant figure out how to adjust the air control. If i want a tight draw it will gurgle and sometimes i get juice in my mouth, if i open the draw a little more, it feels like fake air. If i open it full there is to much air, and it still feels like fake air. Only way i manage to get a semi good vape is on jgg, without the mouthpiece. Dint plan to use the jgg air controll on this. My first thouth was that i got a faulty penny. I realy cant imagene imeo make it like this. This may be me, not having the knowlege to use it, so please dont judge the new penny from my comment. On the positive site, it looks fantastic.

 

[tmccooljr]

haha it just takes a little to find the sweet spot like on all atties. Hold in there klepto. Sorta funny how you said fake air though. What does fake air feel like?

 

[Bigwhiterabbitt]

I cant figure out how to adjust the air control. If i want a tight draw it will gurgle and sometimes i get juice in my mouth, if i open the draw a little more, it feels like fake air. If i open it full there is to much air, and it still feels like fake air. Only way i manage to get a semi good vape is on jgg, without the mouthpiece. Dint plan to use the jgg air controll on this. My first thouth was that i got a faulty penny. I realy cant imagene imeo make it like this. This may be me, not having the knowlege to use it, so please dont judge the new penny from my comment. On the positive site, it looks fantastic.

I agree with much of what you have said Klepto although I don't have a GG to try it on. I've just tried mine on a mod with AFC and the channels in the base of the Penny have rendered the mods AFC useless.. So even though I can adjust the draw using the mouth piece I cant really adjust the airflow over the coil. Or am I missing something obvious??

 

[Bigwhiterabbitt]

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[Klepto]

Dont know the right english word for fake air. But its feels like air is comming from some where else, like a leak or something. Its so much better without the mp, but i wanted to use it with stealth cap or on the piccolo. Mayby i need to try using ribbon or micro coil. Hope some of the veterans soon will post there findings. This post is not to point fingers or to talk bad about the penny. Im pretty sure everything is for a reason.

 

[chrishanuk]

Dont know the right english word for fake air. But its feels like air is comming from some where else, like a leak or something.

Klepto's Penny Farts.. Thought she was a lady?

 

[ph0kused]

Yeah mate, had to do the same but didn't whack like imeo. Just gently but firmly. Looks OK but not convinced yet.

Is that to increase airflow?

 

[Gobra]

I used only the Penny V2 and JGG all day today
no gurgle
no juice in my mouth
no ,,fake air,,
no to much air
All functional-superlative

I used all controls-the CT, the new adjustable tip and juice all fully open
I used 100 percent vg ,I used it outside at minus 4 degrees and inside the office without a problem

she passed my ultimate test I like her
I love my mini Ithaka







I have one problem ..
she cries after Proteus

...............................

,, Proteus Proteus Where you are !!!! ,,

,, here here inside the cnc ! I am near you ! you have to be patient for a few months, a year at most
you're more eager than your sister!! ,,

,, Only master Imeo can help you and me ! ,,

...............................

 

[Lo zio]

No Lo. Now I see exactly your point. And I completely agree. There is an adjustable negated air. And to be honest to everyone, if you read Lo's post carefully it makes sense. With the tip it's adjustable. Yes. But the satisfaction suffers in an odd way. Personally I have take it for two days straight with the adjustable. I cannot replicate creating the vapor that I get with no adjustable tip or with a straight tip. Insert a 10mm straight tip with a matching hole and you can cloud the room.
Oddly enough, I couldn't explain this either.

Yep.

I will also add that moving the penny to a JGG and opening the air does improve the performance. But it still falls short of the straight drip tip. You don't labor as much to satisfy your vape with air control but nothing matches the straight opening.

Interesting...

I cant figure out how to adjust the air control. If i want a tight draw it will gurgle and sometimes i get juice in my mouth, if i open the draw a little more, it feels like fake air. If i open it full there is to much air, and it still feels like fake air. Only way i manage to get a semi good vape is on jgg, without the mouthpiece. Dint plan to use the jgg air controll on this. My first thouth was that i got a faulty penny. I realy cant imagene imeo make it like this. This may be me, not having the knowlege to use it, so please dont judge the new penny from my comment. On the positive site, it looks fantastic.

Yup!
I had juice in my mouth, too. Which means that actually closing the semitelescopic mouthpiece does have an influence on the relative juice air mixture amounts, but depending on how much you screw it down. More later to this.

Dont know the right english word for fake air. But its feels like air is comming from some where else, like a leak or something. Its so much better without the mp, but i wanted to use it with stealth cap or on the piccolo. Mayby i need to try using ribbon or micro coil. Hope some of the veterans soon will post there findings. This post is not to point fingers or to talk bad about the penny. Im pretty sure everything is for a reason.

Yes.
Because it is air coming from somewhere else, actually.
I was looking at the tip today, and it reminded me of the UFS 510 extension - similar, isn't it? With the 510 extension I always had one big issue, it moves, it just moves while in the atomizer, and so does the drip tip as a consequence. Since I hate this, I use the UFS with a long tip which mounts a thicker o-ring.
Now: today I tried many different tips on Penelope V2, some worked, some not. In a couple of cases I had the same vape as with no tip, which means excellent. The tips working were the ones with thicker o-rings, try it out. If you have to force it in, it will preserve the creaminess of the vapor, otherwise the effect will be the same as the official semitelescopic tip.
So I suppose that actually air is leaking in, it's not air from the bottom and it doesn't have to do with the 2mm holes on the bottom , it enters from the semitelescopic tip and ruins the experience. By closing the semitelescopic tip a lot less air leaks in and one is able to exert suction and getting more liquid to the coil, even to the mouth as happened.
Of course there is a reason why the semitelescopic tip has two o-rings that don't exert great grip: the semitelescopic mouthpiece is idrectly connected to the rest of the mouthpiece; to make the two independent in rotation and actually usable (meaning developing less friction), o-rings without excessive grip a prerequisite.
So the dilemma:
-bigger o-rings ------> no air leaking in, but difficult to regulate without actually screwing and unscrewing the principal mouthpiece. No regulation at all with a common drip tip.
- original o-rings-------> problems we encountered

These are my thoughts.

What I would try: thicker o-rings, maybe only one. Which size are the two mounted?
No o-rings at all, meaning I would like to see a one-piece mouthpiece as Penelope V1 one day.
I want to point out: the vape experience without any regolation is excellent, better than Penelope V1 and comparable to Ithaka in some aspects, even better in others, so this wouldn't be that bad.

If others do not experience these problems...well, happy for you. For me, at the moment, with the semitelescopic mouthpiece Penelope V2 is not usable at all, while it performs wonderfully with other drip tips or at best without.

 

[Aal_]

Lo zio, good analysis. So what you are saying air is coming from the side of the mouthpiece getting inside the mouthpiece and then up to your mouth? I think it is not bad to use bigger o-rings. As you know in the Air control ring, air is cmpletely sealed and it is not hard to move the ring. So I think if you try putting bigger o-rings well lubed, it should solve the issue.

 

[Klepto]

Yep.
So I suppose that actually air is leaking in, it's not air from the bottom and it doesn't have to do with the 2mm holes on the bottom , it enters from the semitelescopic tip and ruins the experience. By closing the semitelescopic tip a lot less air leaks in and one is able to exert suction and getting more liquid to the coil, even to the mouth as happened.
Of course there is a reason why the semitelescopic tip has two o-rings that don't exert great grip: the semitelescopic mouthpiece is idrectly connected to the rest of the mouthpiece; to make the two independent in rotation and actually usable (meaning developing less friction), o-rings without excessive grip a prerequisite.
So the dilemma:
-bigger o-rings ------> no air leaking in, but difficult to regulate without actually screwing and unscrewing the principal mouthpiece. No regulation at all with a common drip tip.
- original o-rings-------> problems we encountered

These are my thoughts.

What I would try: thicker o-rings, maybe only one. Which size are the two mounted?
No o-rings at all, meaning I would like to see a one-piece mouthpiece as Penelope V1 one day.
I want to point out: the vape experience without any regolation is excellent, better than Penelope V1 and comparable to Ithaka in some aspects, even better in others, so this wouldn't be that bad.

If others do not experience these problems...well, happy for you. For me, at the moment, with the semitelescopic mouthpiece Penelope V2 is not usable at all, while it performs wonderfully with other drip tips or at best without.

Esmoke guru did send me a extra bigger o-oring. I put it at the top of the mouthpiece, and YES it worked. So for me, the standard o-ring at the bottom and the big o-ring at the top.

I still have to get used to not taking to strong draws, cause that will make it gurgle and suck juice up.
Now i see what Imeo wanted us to see Taste is great now, its warm and thick.

 

[Lo zio]

Lo zio, good analysis. So what you are saying air is coming from the side of the mouthpiece getting inside the mouthpiece and then up to your mouth?

Yes. The problem lies in there, in my opinion.

I think it is not bad to use bigger o-rings. As you know in the Air control ring, air is cmpletely sealed and it is not hard to move the ring. So I think if you try putting bigger o-rings well lubed, it should solve the issue.

Of course yes, if well lubed it could work, I would be only afraid of rotating the "big" mouthpiece while I regulate the air and the two regulation should be independent.
Apparently it works:

Esmoke guru did send me a extra bigger o-oring. I put it at the top of the mouthpiece, and YES it worked. So for me, the standard o-ring at the bottom and the big o-ring at the top.

So this basically confirms the story.

I still have to get used to not taking to strong draws, cause that will make it gurgle and suck juice up.
Now i see what Imeo wanted us to see Taste is great now, its warm and thick.

Yes of course, this air control is then actually able to have influence on the amount of juice drawn to the coil, and this we already knew when we got juice in the mouth.


We need o-rings.
Imeo, which size are the o-rings present on the telescopic mouthpiece? I would say same inner diamteer and a little thicker would do the job. Maybe.

 

[yankeebobo]

Ok. Here's the thing from my standpoint. I switched out to a higher oring that was included. It helps ...a little. It's a snug fit. So I don't know how much different in size the oring can be. I will see what I have in my oring bag and see what works (if anything else)

As for the tighter draw, I've noticed when you go to tighten the draw, closer to the draw mode, it's really enhancing the sharpness of the vacuum. Hence how juice is flowing up. I don't care how little I try to draw, it flows. And part of that is habit. Your expecting a certain draw and no matter how careful you are, you're going to draw tighter. Ever overfill a glass so full without going over? Right to the tip? You CAN carry it but chances are you will spill some.

As of now, this instant, on a GG or not, I find the best draw to be open tip or no tip.

 

[Aal_]

Esmoke guru did send me a extra bigger o-oring. I put it at the top of the mouthpiece, and YES it worked. So for me, the standard o-ring at the bottom and the big o-ring at the top.

I still have to get used to not taking to strong draws, cause that will make it gurgle and suck juice up.
Now i see what Imeo wanted us to see Taste is great now, its warm and thick.

Phew ... That's good to hear. I feel stupid commenting while I am 3700 KM away from my penny

 

[Aal_]

Ok. Here's the thing from my standpoint. I switched out to a higher oring that was included. It helps ...a little. It's a snug fit. So I don't know how much different in size the oring can be. I will see what I have in my oring bag and see what works (if anything else)

As for the tighter draw, I've noticed when you go to tighten the draw, closer to the draw mode, it's really enhancing the sharpness of the vacuum. Hence how juice is flowing up. I don't care how little I try to draw, it flows. And part of that is habit. Your expecting a certain draw and no matter how careful you are, you're going to draw tighter. Ever overfill a glass so full without going over? Right to the tip? You CAN carry it but chances are you will spill some.

As of now, this instant, on a GG or not, I find the best draw to be open tip or no tip.

I don't see how tightening the draw is different from tightening the Air on the mod or on ithaka